Re: [Finale] Sibelius Core Team Now at Steinberg, Building New Notation Tool
Obviously, the notation product is a very long way off and there are no examples to show yet, but here's the first blog post by Daniel Spreadbury announcing the project: http://blog.steinberg.net/2013/02/welcome/ If Daniel is associated with the project, then I am optimistic (Now, if he could only get me off the Igor Noteheads mailing list, then he would be a true hero!) Richard Yates ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Sibelius Core Team Now at Steinberg, Building New Notation Tool
(Now, if he could only get me off the Igor Noteheads mailing list, then he would be a true hero!) Me too! Four years into daily Finale use I still hit things that were far quicker in Igor. Basic thinks like slur entry, dynamic entry, hairpin entry, proper linked parts, ability to grab anything and move it. The biggest miss is still that Igor was modeless and that nothing gets done in Finale without selecting the right tool. It is to be hoped that Steinberg take a look at Igor. Steve P. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Sibelius Core Team Now at Steinberg, Building New Notation Tool
On 2013-02-21 14:02, Steve Parker wrote: It is to be hoped that Steinberg take a look at Igor. ...or they could try to be really innovative for a change? Although Igor went much further than anything else in terms of innovative thinking, Igor was still just a variation on the same theme. IMO, music notation software development has a long tradition of being extremely non-creative. Best regards, Jari Williamsson ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Sibelius Core Team Now at Steinberg, Building New Notation Tool
When Igor came out it was entirely different. New features in fairly recent versions of Finale and Sibelius were present at the start of Igor more than a decade ahead of its time. Can you explain more the direction you're thinking? Modeless operation; ability to easily enter dynamics, slurs, markings, hairpins during note entry; ability to grab anything and move it, linked parts where it was stupidly simple to unlink (or relink) any element - these put Igor way ahead of even the current curve. I know Finale and Sibelius pretty well and beta-tested Notion. Igor was an entirely different beast for pro copying than any of them. So.. what are you thinking? (Asked with great interest because your plugs go a long way in turning Finale into something!) Steve P. On 21 Feb 2013, at 13:57, Jari Williamsson jari.williams...@mailbox.swipnet.se wrote: On 2013-02-21 14:02, Steve Parker wrote: It is to be hoped that Steinberg take a look at Igor. ...or they could try to be really innovative for a change? Although Igor went much further than anything else in terms of innovative thinking, Igor was still just a variation on the same theme. IMO, music notation software development has a long tradition of being extremely non-creative. Best regards, Jari Williamsson ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Sibelius Core Team Now at Steinberg, Building New Notation Tool
On 2013-02-21 15:33, Steve Parker wrote: Can you explain more the direction you're thinking? Just some examples: * Some Finale users thought Sibelius 7 was a good choice just because it now had an input mode where the duration/pitch entry sequence was reversed. Why should such things even be a matter at all for mature products that have been on the market for a while? Almost every user judgement about ANY music notation product is based on the entry method. IMO, this shows that music notation programs have not yet matured beyond the first generation. * Finale/Sib/Igor/etc/etc defines music notation as staves and series of measures going from left to the right in a certain fixed pattern. That is NOT what music notation is. What we now are experiencing is that computer programs define what music notation is to the human, instead of the other way around. * Igor had a nice option of selecting accidental style between Viennese school and old style method. But why would Igor decide the rules, why couldn't the user define the rules? Best regards, Jari Williamsson ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] switching between Finale and other app causes stuck MIDI note(s) in speedy
Fortunately, there is an All Notes Off command in the MIDI/Audio menu. Hmmm. That command isn't doing anything for me to alleviate the problem I'm having. The only thing that works is exiting/re-entering the speedy editing frame. And it's enough of a hassle to cause me to consider setting up a dedicated computer to run Finale. On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 11:57 PM, Christopher Smith christopher.sm...@videotron.ca wrote: There are all kinds of situations where you can get a note to hang in Finale, particularly in Speedy. I do it all the time, by accident, say, by hitting Return to go to the staff below while still holding the MIDI key, so the original staff never gets a Note Off message on its channel. I also get hung notes when switching programs, probably for similar reasons, though I suspect the Mac MIDI engine might have something to do with it, with the way it manages MIDI between multitasking apps. Fortunately, there is an All Notes Off command in the MIDI/Audio menu. Funny that you're asking these questions in the Mac forum. The question in this case has most likely the same answer as for Windows, but that isn't always the case. Christopher On Tue Feb 19, at TuesdayFeb 19 2:37 AM, toro 455 wrote: If this has already been discussed, I apologize. When switching between Finale and another program, if I don't exit the speedy entry frame, I'll get a stuck note (or notes) when I switch back to Finale. Specifically, whatever the previously pressed note(s) on the MIDI keyboard were will be added to whatever I input next. So, for example if I enter a middle C quarter note beat 1, switch to another app and switch back to Finale (without exiting the speedy entry frame) and press a D on the MIDI keyboard, I'll get both a C and a D on the score on beat 2. It acts as if I'm still holding down whatever the previous entered note was. -- Finale 2008 Win7 ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale -- Finale 2008 Win7 ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
