Re: [Finale] non-US/CA users: keyboard layout

2014-10-31 Thread SN jef chippewa

hey harold, obrigado! yeah sounds familiar :-)

can you let me know which ones are not (easily) available on the PT 
keyboard layout?  and are you on mac or windows?

I use the Portuguese keyboard layout/Portuguese keyboard. I learned 
most of the equivalent keys and it works fine most of the time, but 
for some symbols there seems to be no equivalent, so when that 
happens I switch to the US layout.

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Re: [Finale] non-US/CA users: keyboard layout

2014-10-31 Thread hmauro
I canĀ“t remember it now, but I'll keep it in mind and let you know  
next time it happens. I'm on a Macbook running Lion-

Harold


Quoting SN jef chippewa shirl...@newmusicnotation.com:

 hey harold, obrigado! yeah sounds familiar :-)

 can you let me know which ones are not (easily) available on the PT
 keyboard layout?  and are you on mac or windows?

 I use the Portuguese keyboard layout/Portuguese keyboard. I learned
 most of the equivalent keys and it works fine most of the time, but
 for some symbols there seems to be no equivalent, so when that
 happens I switch to the US layout.

 --

 shirling  neueweise
 new music notation  +  translation  +  arts management
 mailto:shirl...@newmusicnotation.com
 http://newmusicnotation.com | http://www.facebook.com/neueweise

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[Finale] Accidentals in horns with key transpositions

2014-10-31 Thread Ryan
Hello,

Please take a look at this passage for horn transposing in various keys.

http://imgur.com/ZFT6em6

In the second measure of the second line, what concert pitch should sound
on the last eighth note? Does the Ab accidental carry over from the
beginning of the bar, sounding a concert Db, or does the change of
transposition negate the previous accidentals, sounding a D-natural?

Most other changes occur after a bar line, and the few that don't aren't
affected by accidentals in the measure. I'm pretty sure of the answer I'm
looking for is D-natural, given the sounding D on beat 2, but the way it's
written is ambiguous. I would probably add a natural sign to the last note
to clear up the confusion.

Perhaps it's convention that accidentals are negated when a transposition
change occurs mid-measure?

In case you're curious, this is from an etude book of 50 transposing
exercises for horn. It's long out of print and the composer has long since
passed, so there's not a resource to consult to find out what pitch is
really intended.

Thanks!
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Re: [Finale] Accidentals in horns with key transpositions

2014-10-31 Thread Robert Patterson
I have practiced this kind of etude quite often, and I have never thought
about this issue before. I may need to revisit the ones I've practiced.
Instinctively I would play (concert) D-natural, both because my brain
switches gears on the transposition and because it makes sense musically.
But there is no convention I am aware of. By rights there should probably
be a natural there.


On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 4:52 PM, Ryan ry.squa...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello,

 Please take a look at this passage for horn transposing in various keys.

 http://imgur.com/ZFT6em6

 In the second measure of the second line, what concert pitch should sound
 on the last eighth note? Does the Ab accidental carry over from the
 beginning of the bar, sounding a concert Db, or does the change of
 transposition negate the previous accidentals, sounding a D-natural?

 Most other changes occur after a bar line, and the few that don't aren't
 affected by accidentals in the measure. I'm pretty sure of the answer I'm
 looking for is D-natural, given the sounding D on beat 2, but the way it's
 written is ambiguous. I would probably add a natural sign to the last note
 to clear up the confusion.

 Perhaps it's convention that accidentals are negated when a transposition
 change occurs mid-measure?

 In case you're curious, this is from an etude book of 50 transposing
 exercises for horn. It's long out of print and the composer has long since
 passed, so there's not a resource to consult to find out what pitch is
 really intended.

 Thanks!
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Re: [Finale] Accidentals in horns with key transpositions

2014-10-31 Thread Raymond Horton
I'd say no, no connection between the two. And the pitch doesn't make
sense, anyway.
On Oct 31, 2014 5:53 PM, Ryan ry.squa...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello,

 Please take a look at this passage for horn transposing in various keys.

 http://imgur.com/ZFT6em6

 In the second measure of the second line, what concert pitch should sound
 on the last eighth note? Does the Ab accidental carry over from the
 beginning of the bar, sounding a concert Db, or does the change of
 transposition negate the previous accidentals, sounding a D-natural?

 Most other changes occur after a bar line, and the few that don't aren't
 affected by accidentals in the measure. I'm pretty sure of the answer I'm
 looking for is D-natural, given the sounding D on beat 2, but the way it's
 written is ambiguous. I would probably add a natural sign to the last note
 to clear up the confusion.

 Perhaps it's convention that accidentals are negated when a transposition
 change occurs mid-measure?

 In case you're curious, this is from an etude book of 50 transposing
 exercises for horn. It's long out of print and the composer has long since
 passed, so there's not a resource to consult to find out what pitch is
 really intended.

 Thanks!
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