[Finale] Bb7b4
Hello all, I need to input a Bb chord with a 7b4 chord suffix, but Finale doesn't recognise the second b character as a flat. Any advice? Thanks! Barbara ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Bb7b4
Bb7b4 is not a standard chord symbol. A flatted fourth would be identical to a major third, which is already in the chord. Did you mean Bb7#4? If so, that would more typically be written with the alteration bracketed by parentheses: Bb7(#4). Cheers, - DJA - WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org On Jun 18, 2015, at 1:03 PM, j...@thomastudios.com wrote: You’ll need to go into the chord suffix editor, delete the ‘b’, select the 4, and check the box marked flat. That should get you what you want. J D Thomas ThomaStudios On Jun 18, 2015, at 9:58 AM, Barbara Touburg btoub...@online.nl wrote: Hello all, I need to input a Bb chord with a 7b4 chord suffix, but Finale doesn't recognise the second b character as a flat. Any advice? Thanks! Barbara ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Bb7b4
You’ll need to go into the chord suffix editor, delete the ‘b’, select the 4, and check the box marked flat. That should get you what you want. J D Thomas ThomaStudios On Jun 18, 2015, at 9:58 AM, Barbara Touburg btoub...@online.nl wrote: Hello all, I need to input a Bb chord with a 7b4 chord suffix, but Finale doesn't recognise the second b character as a flat. Any advice? Thanks! Barbara ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Bb7b4
Maybe it was supposed to be b5 or #4. b5 makes more sense to me than #4 in the context of a dominant 7th chord. Sent from my iPhone, so please pardon all the typos. On Jun 18, 2015, at 1:34 PM, cr...@parmerlee.com cr...@parmerlee.com wrote: Dumb question here: isn't the flat 4th a D Natural which is already in the chord? Original Message Subject: Re: [Finale] Bb7b4 From: j...@thomastudios.com j...@thomastudios.com Date: Jun 18, 2015 1:04 PM To: finale@shsu.edu CC: You’ll need to go into the chord suffix editor, delete the ‘b’, select the 4, and check the box marked flat. That should get you what you want.br/br/J D Thomasbr/ThomaStudiosbr/br/ On Jun 18, 2015, at 9:58 AM, Barbara Touburg btoub...@online.nl wrote:br/ br/ Hello all,br/ br/ I need to input a Bb chord with a 7b4 chord suffix, but Finale doesn't br/ recognise the second b character as a flat. Any advice? Thanks!br/ br/ Barbarabr/ ___br/ Finale mailing listbr/ Finale@shsu.edubr/ https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finalebr/ br/ To unsubscribe from finale send a message to:br/ finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edubr/br/br/___br/Finale mailing listbr/Finale@shsu.edubr/https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finalebr/br/To unsubscribe from finale send a message to:br/finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Bb7b4
I’m in agreement with Darcy and Craig. Bb7b4 is neither conventional nor does it seem to be a useful symbol. Perhaps you could give is a description of the notes in the chord and some of the musical context, and we might be able to help find a symbol that would express your needs efficiently. Chuck On Jun 18, 2015, at 10:34 AM, cr...@parmerlee.com wrote: Dumb question here: isn't the flat 4th a D Natural which is already in the chord? Original Message Subject: Re: [Finale] Bb7b4 From: j...@thomastudios.com j...@thomastudios.com Date: Jun 18, 2015 1:04 PM To: finale@shsu.edu CC: You’ll need to go into the chord suffix editor, delete the ‘b’, select the 4, and check the box marked flat. That should get you what you want.br/br/J D Thomasbr/ThomaStudiosbr/br/ On Jun 18, 2015, at 9:58 AM, Barbara Touburg btoub...@online.nl wrote:br/ br/ Hello all,br/ br/ I need to input a Bb chord with a 7b4 chord suffix, but Finale doesn't br/ recognise the second b character as a flat. Any advice? Thanks!br/ br/ Barbarabr/ ___br/ Finale mailing listbr/ Finale@shsu.edubr/ https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finalebr/ br/ To unsubscribe from finale send a message to:br/ finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edubr/br/br/___br/Finale mailing listbr/Finale@shsu.edubr/https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finalebr/br/To unsubscribe from finale send a message to:br/finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu Chuck Israels cisra...@comcast.net mailto:cisra...@comcast.net (360) 201-3434 8831 SE 12th Ave. Portland Or 97202 chuckisraelsjazz.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Bb7b4
On 18-6-2015 19:44, Chuck Israels wrote: I’m in agreement with Darcy and Craig. Bb7b4 is neither conventional nor does it seem to be a useful symbol. I fully agree. Perhaps you could give is a description of the notes in the chord and some of the musical context, and we might be able to help find a symbol that would express your needs efficiently. I'm trying to input this piece https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ag6neNo3-5A for a friend to encourage him to play more often. The chord is on the first beat in bar four. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Bb7b4
Dumb question here: isn't the flat 4th a D Natural which is already in the chord? Original Message Subject: Re: [Finale] Bb7b4 From: j...@thomastudios.com j...@thomastudios.com Date: Jun 18, 2015 1:04 PM To: finale@shsu.edu CC: You’ll need to go into the chord suffix editor, delete the ‘b’, select the 4, and check the box marked flat. That should get you what you want.br/br/J D Thomasbr/ThomaStudiosbr/br/ On Jun 18, 2015, at 9:58 AM, Barbara Touburg btoub...@online.nl wrote:br/ br/ Hello all,br/ br/ I need to input a Bb chord with a 7b4 chord suffix, but Finale doesn't br/ recognise the second b character as a flat. Any advice? Thanks!br/ br/ Barbarabr/ ___br/ Finale mailing listbr/ Finale@shsu.edubr/ https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finalebr/ br/ To unsubscribe from finale send a message to:br/ finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edubr/br/br/___br/Finale mailing listbr/Finale@shsu.edubr/https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finalebr/br/To unsubscribe from finale send a message to:br/finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Bb7b4
Hi Jim, #4 or #11 is the standard way of writing this harmony. In jazz, 7(#11) chords often include a natural fifth, so b5 is not accurate. Cheers, - DJA - WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org On Jun 18, 2015, at 1:45 PM, Williams, Jim jwilli...@franklincollege.edu wrote: Maybe it was supposed to be b5 or #4. b5 makes more sense to me than #4 in the context of a dominant 7th chord. Sent from my iPhone, so please pardon all the typos. On Jun 18, 2015, at 1:34 PM, cr...@parmerlee.com cr...@parmerlee.com wrote: Dumb question here: isn't the flat 4th a D Natural which is already in the chord? Original Message Subject: Re: [Finale] Bb7b4 From: j...@thomastudios.com j...@thomastudios.com Date: Jun 18, 2015 1:04 PM To: finale@shsu.edu CC: You’ll need to go into the chord suffix editor, delete the ‘b’, select the 4, and check the box marked flat. That should get you what you want.br/br/J D Thomasbr/ThomaStudiosbr/br/ On Jun 18, 2015, at 9:58 AM, Barbara Touburg btoub...@online.nl wrote:br/ br/ Hello all,br/ br/ I need to input a Bb chord with a 7b4 chord suffix, but Finale doesn't br/ recognise the second b character as a flat. Any advice? Thanks!br/ br/ Barbarabr/ ___br/ Finale mailing listbr/ Finale@shsu.edubr/ https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finalebr/ br/ To unsubscribe from finale send a message to:br/ finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edubr/br/br/___br/Finale mailing listbr/Finale@shsu.edubr/https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finalebr/br/To unsubscribe from finale send a message to:br/finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Bb7b4
Hi Barbara, The chord symbol in the music is correct Bb7b9 (absolutely normal), not Bb7b4. The Cb is the b9, and the E natural is an appoggiatura - lower neighbor. It doesn’t need to be accommodated in the chord symbol, but if you wanted to include it (unnecessarily fussy, even for my detail oriented mind), I’d write Bb7b9#11or Bb7b9#4. Chuck On Jun 18, 2015, at 12:16 PM, Barbara Touburg btoub...@online.nl wrote: On 18-6-2015 19:44, Chuck Israels wrote: I’m in agreement with Darcy and Craig. Bb7b4 is neither conventional nor does it seem to be a useful symbol. I fully agree. Perhaps you could give is a description of the notes in the chord and some of the musical context, and we might be able to help find a symbol that would express your needs efficiently. I'm trying to input this piece https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ag6neNo3-5A for a friend to encourage him to play more often. The chord is on the first beat in bar four. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu Chuck Israels cisra...@comcast.net mailto:cisra...@comcast.net (360) 201-3434 8831 SE 12th Ave. Portland Or 97202 chuckisraelsjazz.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Bb7b4
On 18-6-2015 19:03, j...@thomastudios.com wrote: You’ll need to go into the chord suffix editor, delete the ‘b’, select the 4, and check the box marked flat. That should get you what you want. That worked. In this version of Finale it is buried one more level deeper... ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Bb7b4
b9 not b4. On 6/18/15 3:16 PM, Barbara Touburg wrote: On 18-6-2015 19:44, Chuck Israels wrote: I’m in agreement with Darcy and Craig. Bb7b4 is neither conventional nor does it seem to be a useful symbol. I fully agree. Perhaps you could give is a description of the notes in the chord and some of the musical context, and we might be able to help find a symbol that would express your needs efficiently. I'm trying to input this piece https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ag6neNo3-5A for a friend to encourage him to play more often. The chord is on the first beat in bar four. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Bb7b4
Bb7(b9)(#11) On 18/06/2015, at 16:16, Barbara Touburg wrote: On 18-6-2015 19:44, Chuck Israels wrote: I’m in agreement with Darcy and Craig. Bb7b4 is neither conventional nor does it seem to be a useful symbol. I fully agree. Perhaps you could give is a description of the notes in the chord and some of the musical context, and we might be able to help find a symbol that would express your needs efficiently. I'm trying to input this piece https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ag6neNo3-5A for a friend to encourage him to play more often. The chord is on the first beat in bar four. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Bb7b4
Thanks to everyone who have taken the time to help me. Since the chord symbols are so difficult to read, I've decided to leave them out. They're not needed anyway. Thanks again! ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
