Re: [Finale] Merging percussion staves

2015-07-12 Thread Christopher Smith
You can paste only one layer if Show Active Layer is selected. This should 
really be called Show and Edit Active Layer Only. But I don't think this will 
solve your problem.

There is still the percussion map to worry about. I used to know all this 
stuff, until they changed it two versions in a row, then I lost track. For this 
reason, it is super important to know which version of Finale you are working 
with.

What I think your best bet is, is to make the most complicated staff with a 
percussion map the main staff, and copy the LESS complicated part into it, that 
is to say, the part that isn't dependent on a percussion map. I have done this 
with timpani, glock and drum kit. In the drum staff, Change Instrument to 
glock for only the measures needed, then copy the glock part into that passage. 
If you have two staves that BOTH use different percussion maps, then you have a 
bit of work ahead of you.

Christopher


On Sun Jul 12, at SundayJul 12 4:23 AM, Graeme Gerrard wrote:

 For entry convenience I have entered percussion data in two separate 
 percussion staves.  Now I want to merge those staves together into a single 
 stave.  When I do this using implode music…it does in fact merge them, but 
 creates a note based version in the treble clef, with the bass drum notes out 
 of range.  Even when I convert that stave to a percussion stave and set all 
 the same attributes in the score manager, the bass drum is still “out of 
 range”.
 
 Probably what I really want to do is put line two into a separate layer, and 
 then paste that over the first layer in the first stave.  I have tried to do 
 that but the pasted layer 2 overwrites layer 1.
 That’s probably not a clear explanation for many people.
 Any ideas?
 Graeme
 
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Re: [Finale] auto-save working but can't find file

2015-07-12 Thread shirl...@newmusicnotation.com
 
it seems creating a new folder/location for the auto-save and rebooting has
solved the problem.  perhaps i burned one of finale's braincells when i moved
the file out of the original folder.  shouldn't happen like that though, but
this past week has been an effen series of that shouldn't have happened
 
chuck and jim, i would suggest trying this, the file is there even after
auto-save has completed.
 
- in finder, create a new backups folder (name it however you want)
- save and close all finale docs
- open finale prefs and set the destination folder for auto-save to your new
folder
- click apply just for fun, although this shouldn't be necessary
- close and reboot finale, open a doc that has been saved (i.e. not a new
default file)
- open a finder window with your new folder and wait for the asv to appear
- rejoice and have a drink on me
 
 
 If you open a window to the autosave folder, you can see it get created
 after the prescribed amount of time. It possible the Finale deletes it on
 normal exit and/or when you save after a crash (using the the autosaved
 version).

 
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Re: [Finale] auto-save working but can't find file

2015-07-12 Thread Robert Patterson
P.S. You made need to actually change something before an asv will appear.

On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 1:50 PM, shirl...@newmusicnotation.com 
shirl...@newmusicnotation.com wrote:


 it seems creating a new folder/location for the auto-save and rebooting has
 solved the problem.  perhaps i burned one of finale's braincells when i
 moved
 the file out of the original folder.  shouldn't happen like that though,
 but
 this past week has been an effen series of that shouldn't have happened

 chuck and jim, i would suggest trying this, the file is there even after
 auto-save has completed.

 - in finder, create a new backups folder (name it however you want)
 - save and close all finale docs
 - open finale prefs and set the destination folder for auto-save to your
 new
 folder
 - click apply just for fun, although this shouldn't be necessary
 - close and reboot finale, open a doc that has been saved (i.e. not a new
 default file)
 - open a finder window with your new folder and wait for the asv to appear
 - rejoice and have a drink on me


  If you open a window to the autosave folder, you can see it get created
  after the prescribed amount of time. It possible the Finale deletes it on
  normal exit and/or when you save after a crash (using the the autosaved
  version).


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Re: [Finale] Merging percussion staves

2015-07-12 Thread Graeme Gerrard
Thank you.  I moved the complicated line into voice 2 and redid the hi-hat and 
cymbal line from the other stave in voice 1.
Graeme


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[Finale] Merging percussion staves

2015-07-12 Thread Graeme Gerrard
For entry convenience I have entered percussion data in two separate percussion 
staves.  Now I want to merge those staves together into a single stave.  When I 
do this using implode music…it does in fact merge them, but creates a note 
based version in the treble clef, with the bass drum notes out of range.  Even 
when I convert that stave to a percussion stave and set all the same attributes 
in the score manager, the bass drum is still “out of range”.

Probably what I really want to do is put line two into a separate layer, and 
then paste that over the first layer in the first stave.  I have tried to do 
that but the pasted layer 2 overwrites layer 1.
That’s probably not a clear explanation for many people.
Any ideas?
Graeme
 
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Re: [Finale] Merging percussion staves

2015-07-12 Thread shirl...@newmusicnotation.com
 
if the bass drum is the only pitch/instrument that is wonky, run the JW Change
Pitches plugin on that thang
http://finaletips.nu/index.php/download/category/10-plug-ins-for-mac

no mess, no fuss.
 
 
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Re: [Finale] auto-save working but can't find file

2015-07-12 Thread Robert Patterson
Your impression is partially correct. However, the autosave copy (I
believe) is in fact still visible. However, when you installed Fin14 it
probably changed the location of the autosave files to a location you
aren't expecting. At least that's what happened with me.

On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 11:23 AM, Chuck Israels cisra...@comcast.net
wrote:

 As far as I can figure out - Finale no longer makes a visible AutoSave
 copy.  However, when I reopen the file I’ve been working on after a crash
 (infrequent as they are for me), the reopened copy appears to have been
 saved according to my AutoSave schedule.  So it would appear to have been
 saved and somehow kept in such a way that reopening the file accesses the
 AutoSave version.  It’s mysterious to me how this is done, but things seem
 to be working this way for me, and since the AutoSave function no longer
 seems to result in a momentary delay, as it used to in 2012, I have it set
 to save every 5 minutes, so I hardly lose much work when there is a crash.

 Anyone else confirm this impression?

 Chuck

  On Jul 12, 2015, at 9:12 AM, shirl...@newmusicnotation.com wrote:
 
 
  i have the file path set to a F2014 folder for auto-save and the
 message bar
  shows finale auto-saving on schedule (every 15 min) but i can no longer
 find the
  file that is getting saved.  and it is not being saved in the folder i
 defined
  as the path!
 
  at one point when getting regular crashes, i opened the auto-save file
 (it was
  working properly after the installation) and began working in it (oops),
 then
  closed it, moved it to the client's folder, renamed it and opened it and
 kept
  working on it.  since that time, no new file has been getting generated,
 it
  seems, for this file or for other files.
 
  is it possible that the file is referring to itself and saving its
 second copy
  into itself?
 
  i took a copy of the document i am working on and added  asv to the
 filename
  and moved it to my asv folder but it has never been updated, despite
 auto-save
  kicking in dozens of times since.
 
  gr.
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[Finale] auto-save working but can't find file

2015-07-12 Thread shirl...@newmusicnotation.com
 
i have the file path set to a F2014 folder for auto-save and the message bar
shows finale auto-saving on schedule (every 15 min) but i can no longer find the
file that is getting saved.  and it is not being saved in the folder i defined
as the path!
 
at one point when getting regular crashes, i opened the auto-save file (it was
working properly after the installation) and began working in it (oops), then
closed it, moved it to the client's folder, renamed it and opened it and kept
working on it.  since that time, no new file has been getting generated, it
seems, for this file or for other files.
 
is it possible that the file is referring to itself and saving its second copy
into itself?
 
i took a copy of the document i am working on and added  asv to the filename
and moved it to my asv folder but it has never been updated, despite auto-save
kicking in dozens of times since.
 
gr.
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Re: [Finale] auto-save working but can't find file

2015-07-12 Thread shirl...@newmusicnotation.com
 
i have checked and reset the location several times.  i also just reindexed my
disk and did a search with spotlight, only the file i placed in the right
folder showed up and it was last modified 2 days ago.
 
it could be that the file that reopens after a crash is the last save (as chuck
suggested), but last time it crashed was in fact during the auto-save function,
so i couldn't tell.  in any case, the file has to be somewhere, maybe hidden and
spotlight cant find it or something.  weird.
 

 On July 12, 2015 at 6:25 PM Robert Patterson rob...@robertgpatterson.com
 wrote:


 Your impression is partially correct. However, the autosave copy (I
 believe) is in fact still visible. However, when you installed Fin14 it
 probably changed the location of the autosave files to a location you
 aren't expecting. At least that's what happened with me.

 
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Re: [Finale] auto-save working but can't find file

2015-07-12 Thread Jim Gray
Same here. 

Sent from my iPad


 On Jul 12, 2015, at 11:23 AM, Chuck Israels cisra...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 As far as I can figure out - Finale no longer makes a visible AutoSave copy.  
 However, when I reopen the file I’ve been working on after a crash 
 (infrequent as they are for me), the reopened copy appears to have been saved 
 according to my AutoSave schedule.  So it would appear to have been saved and 
 somehow kept in such a way that reopening the file accesses the AutoSave 
 version.  It’s mysterious to me how this is done, but things seem to be 
 working this way for me, and since the AutoSave function no longer seems to 
 result in a momentary delay, as it used to in 2012, I have it set to save 
 every 5 minutes, so I hardly lose much work when there is a crash.
 
 Anyone else confirm this impression?
 
 Chuck
 
 On Jul 12, 2015, at 9:12 AM, shirl...@newmusicnotation.com wrote:
 
 
 i have the file path set to a F2014 folder for auto-save and the message 
 bar
 shows finale auto-saving on schedule (every 15 min) but i can no longer find 
 the
 file that is getting saved.  and it is not being saved in the folder i 
 defined
 as the path!
 
 at one point when getting regular crashes, i opened the auto-save file (it 
 was
 working properly after the installation) and began working in it (oops), then
 closed it, moved it to the client's folder, renamed it and opened it and kept
 working on it.  since that time, no new file has been getting generated, it
 seems, for this file or for other files.
 
 is it possible that the file is referring to itself and saving its second 
 copy
 into itself?
 
 i took a copy of the document i am working on and added  asv to the 
 filename
 and moved it to my asv folder but it has never been updated, despite 
 auto-save
 kicking in dozens of times since.
 
 gr.
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Re: [Finale] auto-save working but can't find file

2015-07-12 Thread Chuck Israels
As far as I can figure out - Finale no longer makes a visible AutoSave copy.  
However, when I reopen the file I’ve been working on after a crash (infrequent 
as they are for me), the reopened copy appears to have been saved according to 
my AutoSave schedule.  So it would appear to have been saved and somehow kept 
in such a way that reopening the file accesses the AutoSave version.  It’s 
mysterious to me how this is done, but things seem to be working this way for 
me, and since the AutoSave function no longer seems to result in a momentary 
delay, as it used to in 2012, I have it set to save every 5 minutes, so I 
hardly lose much work when there is a crash.

Anyone else confirm this impression?

Chuck
 
 On Jul 12, 2015, at 9:12 AM, shirl...@newmusicnotation.com wrote:
 
 
 i have the file path set to a F2014 folder for auto-save and the message bar
 shows finale auto-saving on schedule (every 15 min) but i can no longer find 
 the
 file that is getting saved.  and it is not being saved in the folder i defined
 as the path!
 
 at one point when getting regular crashes, i opened the auto-save file (it was
 working properly after the installation) and began working in it (oops), then
 closed it, moved it to the client's folder, renamed it and opened it and kept
 working on it.  since that time, no new file has been getting generated, it
 seems, for this file or for other files.
 
 is it possible that the file is referring to itself and saving its second 
 copy
 into itself?
 
 i took a copy of the document i am working on and added  asv to the filename
 and moved it to my asv folder but it has never been updated, despite auto-save
 kicking in dozens of times since.
 
 gr.
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Re: [Finale] auto-save working but can't find file

2015-07-12 Thread Robert Patterson
If you open a window to the autosave folder, you can see it get created
after the prescribed amount of time. It possible the Finale deletes it on
normal exit and/or when you save after a crash (using the the autosaved
version).

On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 12:19 PM, shirl...@newmusicnotation.com 
shirl...@newmusicnotation.com wrote:


 i have checked and reset the location several times.  i also just
 reindexed my
 disk and did a search with spotlight, only the file i placed in the right
 folder showed up and it was last modified 2 days ago.

 it could be that the file that reopens after a crash is the last save (as
 chuck
 suggested), but last time it crashed was in fact during the auto-save
 function,
 so i couldn't tell.  in any case, the file has to be somewhere, maybe
 hidden and
 spotlight cant find it or something.  weird.


  On July 12, 2015 at 6:25 PM Robert Patterson 
 rob...@robertgpatterson.com
  wrote:
 
 
  Your impression is partially correct. However, the autosave copy (I
  believe) is in fact still visible. However, when you installed Fin14 it
  probably changed the location of the autosave files to a location you
  aren't expecting. At least that's what happened with me.


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