Re: [Finale] Reliable way to combine multiple files
Hi Robert, > On 12 Dec 2016, at 20:24, Robert Patterson > wrote: > > I refuse to do post processing with a pdf editor. I would be willing to > simply combine pdf's output by Finale, but any further post-processing than > that is unacceptable to me. Not to start one… but why? I’ve always collated these kind of things outside Finale. Steve P. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] 3/2 vs. 6/4
And to answer your question: With a expression above the measure that says "2+2+2” (as I believe Chris Smith also suggested). Cheers, — DJA - http://secretsocietymusic.org > On Dec 10, 2016, at 5:06 AM, David H. Bailey wrote: > > So how would you indicate stresses on 1, 3, and 5 in a measure > containing 6 quarter notes without using accents or tenuto lines or any > other articulation, but rather simply by the meter, which was the > original question? ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] 3/2 vs. 6/4
The discussion seemed to have moved beyond the specifics of the original question — people were making broad normative claims about 6/4 versus 3/2. Cheers, — DJA - http://secretsocietymusic.org > On Dec 10, 2016, at 5:06 AM, David H. Bailey wrote: > > > > On 12/9/2016 5:14 PM, iCloud wrote: >> Hi Steve, >> >> The distinction is useful until it’s not. >> >> If I have a fast piece in 2/2, conducted in 2, and then I need a bar that’s >> elongated by a beat, I’m going to write a bar of 3/2, and conduct that bar >> in 3. >> >> If I have a piece in 5/4, conducted in 5, and then I need a bar that’s >> elongated by a beat, I’m going to write a bar of 6/4, and conduct that bar >> in 6. >> >> If I have a piece in 4/4, conducted in 4, and then I need a bar that’s >> elongated by two beats, I’m also going to write a bar of 6/4, and conduct >> that bar in 6. >> >> Traditional worries about which parts of the bar are stressed don’t really >> apply to my music, and that’s true of much modern music. >> >> That bar of 6 might contain people playing all kinds of syncopations and >> over-the-barline rhythms and cross-rhythms. There might not even *be* an >> attack on beat 4 to emphasize. Insisting that 3/2 can only be 2+2+2 and 6/4 >> can *only* be 2+2+2 is a convention that is not useful my music, or in the >> music of many (if not most) contemporary composers. >> > > Darcy, the musical project in question in the original message was only > asking about which would be better for the particular situation in which > he specifically asked for a measure in which there will be 6 quarter > notes which would be better to indicate placing the stresses on quarter > notes 1, 3, and 5 instead of 1 and 4. > > You obviously write your music in a manner which produces the great > results you and your band get and obviously what you write is clear to > them. Your arguments in favor of 6/4 have all been very good for the > kind of music that you write as well as a lot of other modern music (but > not necessarily for all music being written today) but in none of your > replies in this thread have you indicated how best to show the stresses > on quarter notes 1,3 and 5. > > How would you indicate such in music which doesn't have syncopations and > other obscurations of the beat? In fact in your reply which I've quoted > intact you say "there might not even *be* an attack on beat 4 to > emphasize." That's about as far from the original question as a person > can get because the original question indicated clearly that he didn't > want to emphasize the 4th quarter note, which indicates that there *is* > an attack on the 4th quarter note (in a measure containing 6 quarter > notes) which he doesn't want stressed. > > So how would you indicate stresses on 1, 3, and 5 in a measure > containing 6 quarter notes without using accents or tenuto lines or any > other articulation, but rather simply by the meter, which was the > original question? > > > -- > David H. Bailey > dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com > http://www.davidbaileymusicstudio.com > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: > finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
[Finale] Playback
Finale2012 Windows Hi having a problem with playback It doesn't work at all when I press the space Bar also if I highlight a bar it doesn't work then either However it does work if I click on the start button all be it from bar one Also can't drag my curser through the bar to play back slowly to check voicings Any help would be very grateful Regards Sent from my iPhone ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Instruments.txt?
Message: 6 Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2016 02:01:51 +0100 From: SN jef chippewa Subject: Re: [Finale] Instruments.txt? To: Message-ID: <768478932.76549.1481331712...@email.1und1.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" check that your finale Preferences/Folders/Configuration Files (on F2014.5, names are different on F2010) are set to look up the file in the right place. Thanks for your reply. Checked all the files and can't find a file anywhere that looks like instruments.txt. Probably upgrading soon, just have a few files to go before that and have all the instruments I need in existing templates, so not crucial, but if there is a way to get that instruments.txt file from 2010, be great to know. Thanks again and best, Mike ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Reliable way to combine multiple files
Linked parts is the biggest reason I want to combine them. Versus the headache of managing page number in parts if the scores are in separate files. (If *only* the page offset number were unlinkable!) I refuse to do post processing with a pdf editor. I would be willing to simply combine pdf's output by Finale, but any further post-processing than that is unacceptable to me. On Mon, Dec 12, 2016 at 2:19 PM, Michael Dutka wrote: > Super unsophisticated user here, so please take this with a shaker-full of > salt, but I've been working on a long composition with a piano-reduction > that'll consist of 30 separate movements / .mus files. > > Rather than combine files in Finale, my plan is to merely delete page > numbers from one set of files, then generate .pdf's of all 30 files. > > Then I can combine the files and renumber the pages in Adobe Acrobat. I'll > have one long .pdf with page numbers from 1 to whatever, plus resetting > measure numbers in each movement that'll be completely consistent with the > measure numbers in the orchestra files. > > If this is a good idea, happy to help, and if it's a bad idea, happy to be > told why. > > FWIW. Best regards, > Mike > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: > finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu > ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Reliable way to combine multiple files
Super unsophisticated user here, so please take this with a shaker-full of salt, but I've been working on a long composition with a piano-reduction that'll consist of 30 separate movements / .mus files. Rather than combine files in Finale, my plan is to merely delete page numbers from one set of files, then generate .pdf's of all 30 files. Then I can combine the files and renumber the pages in Adobe Acrobat. I'll have one long .pdf with page numbers from 1 to whatever, plus resetting measure numbers in each movement that'll be completely consistent with the measure numbers in the orchestra files. If this is a good idea, happy to help, and if it's a bad idea, happy to be told why. FWIW. Best regards, Mike ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Reliable way to combine multiple files
FWIW: The next release of Patterson plugins is going to have new miscellaneous functions to 1. Change the number of a lyric Verse, Chorus, Section (preserving all baseline settings and offsets). 2. Transfer system baseline offsets between files (provided both use the same staff numbers and lyric numbers, which they will if created from the same template). 3. Remove all groups except those that start on the first measure and extend those throughout the piece. These will make Score Merger a whole lot more practical. It may still mangle the lyric text, even if each source file has different lyric numbers. But you can fix that fairly quickly with my mass copy plugin. On Mon, Dec 12, 2016 at 5:21 AM, Steve Parker wrote: > 100% don't do this in Finale. > Sort page numbers in Finale. Easiest to make L and R pages the same. > Print to PDF. On mac you can open all the pdfs together, order them, then > print to PDF with them all selected. > > Steve P. > > > On 12 Dec 2016, at 09:32, Jón Kristinn Cortez > wrote: > > > > Hello John. > > > > Instead of using Finale to combine the files, with all the troubles that > can cause, how about print the files to PDF, using numbers 011-200 in order > you want the songs to be, and then combine the PDFs into one file. > > Is there a reason you want to combine the Finale files? > > > > Cortez > > > > > > > >> On 10. des. 2016, at 01:29, John Witmer wrote: > >> > >> Robert, > >> I need your advice. I'm in the process of completing a 200 song > compendium using Finale 2014.5 When it is finished, (I promised it would > be ready "early" in 2017), I'll need to merge the individual charts for a > single document. This is for the sole use of a retirement community, but > they'll need about 100 copies. I believe I have volunteers who will fund > the printing, but I need to get good copy. > >> > >> Now, is Finale 25 good enough to undertake this task, or should I > finish it with Finale 2014.5? Either way, I'm afraid it will be a real > chore. If all else fails, I'll have to print 200 separate charts and > collate them. This will be hard because I need to print most pages > "back-to-back" to keep the total size less than an unabridged dictionary. > >> > >> Your advice would be gratefully appreciated. > >> Chordially, > >> John Witmer > >> Clemson Downs Retirement Community. > >> > >> On 12/9/2016 5:35:12 PM, Robert Patterson > wrote: > >> I've been messing with the Score Merger function in Finale 25. It does a > >> halfway decent job, but > >> > >> 1. It fails to copy lyric baseline adjustments (and I would guess > probably > >> expression baseline adjustments as well). > >> 2. It idiotically goes nuts if a bar has too many beats (like a hard > whole > >> rest in a 2/4 bar, which is frequently required for L1/L2 parts). > >> 3. It makes a mess of lyric text. > >> 4. It doesn't know how to create percussion staves that match the source > >> file, so percussion is a mess. > >> > >> Does anyone know a better way? > >> ___ > >> Finale mailing list > >> Finale@shsu.edu > >> https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > >> > >> To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: > >> finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu > >> ___ > >> Finale mailing list > >> Finale@shsu.edu > >> https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > >> > >> To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: > >> finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu > > > > > > ___ > > Finale mailing list > > Finale@shsu.edu > > https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > > > To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: > > finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu > > > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: > finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu > ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Reliable way to combine multiple files
100% don't do this in Finale. Sort page numbers in Finale. Easiest to make L and R pages the same. Print to PDF. On mac you can open all the pdfs together, order them, then print to PDF with them all selected. Steve P. > On 12 Dec 2016, at 09:32, Jón Kristinn Cortez wrote: > > Hello John. > > Instead of using Finale to combine the files, with all the troubles that can > cause, how about print the files to PDF, using numbers 011-200 in order you > want the songs to be, and then combine the PDFs into one file. > Is there a reason you want to combine the Finale files? > > Cortez > > > >> On 10. des. 2016, at 01:29, John Witmer wrote: >> >> Robert, >> I need your advice. I'm in the process of completing a 200 song compendium >> using Finale 2014.5 When it is finished, (I promised it would be ready >> "early" in 2017), I'll need to merge the individual charts for a single >> document. This is for the sole use of a retirement community, but they'll >> need about 100 copies. I believe I have volunteers who will fund the >> printing, but I need to get good copy. >> >> Now, is Finale 25 good enough to undertake this task, or should I finish it >> with Finale 2014.5? Either way, I'm afraid it will be a real chore. If all >> else fails, I'll have to print 200 separate charts and collate them. This >> will be hard because I need to print most pages "back-to-back" to keep the >> total size less than an unabridged dictionary. >> >> Your advice would be gratefully appreciated. >> Chordially, >> John Witmer >> Clemson Downs Retirement Community. >> >> On 12/9/2016 5:35:12 PM, Robert Patterson >> wrote: >> I've been messing with the Score Merger function in Finale 25. It does a >> halfway decent job, but >> >> 1. It fails to copy lyric baseline adjustments (and I would guess probably >> expression baseline adjustments as well). >> 2. It idiotically goes nuts if a bar has too many beats (like a hard whole >> rest in a 2/4 bar, which is frequently required for L1/L2 parts). >> 3. It makes a mess of lyric text. >> 4. It doesn't know how to create percussion staves that match the source >> file, so percussion is a mess. >> >> Does anyone know a better way? >> ___ >> Finale mailing list >> Finale@shsu.edu >> https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale >> >> To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: >> finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu >> ___ >> Finale mailing list >> Finale@shsu.edu >> https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale >> >> To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: >> finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu > > > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: > finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Reliable way to combine multiple files
Hello John. Instead of using Finale to combine the files, with all the troubles that can cause, how about print the files to PDF, using numbers 011-200 in order you want the songs to be, and then combine the PDFs into one file. Is there a reason you want to combine the Finale files? Cortez > On 10. des. 2016, at 01:29, John Witmer wrote: > > Robert, > I need your advice. I'm in the process of completing a 200 song compendium > using Finale 2014.5 When it is finished, (I promised it would be ready > "early" in 2017), I'll need to merge the individual charts for a single > document. This is for the sole use of a retirement community, but they'll > need about 100 copies. I believe I have volunteers who will fund the > printing, but I need to get good copy. > > Now, is Finale 25 good enough to undertake this task, or should I finish it > with Finale 2014.5? Either way, I'm afraid it will be a real chore. If all > else fails, I'll have to print 200 separate charts and collate them. This > will be hard because I need to print most pages "back-to-back" to keep the > total size less than an unabridged dictionary. > > Your advice would be gratefully appreciated. > Chordially, > John Witmer > Clemson Downs Retirement Community. > > On 12/9/2016 5:35:12 PM, Robert Patterson wrote: > I've been messing with the Score Merger function in Finale 25. It does a > halfway decent job, but > > 1. It fails to copy lyric baseline adjustments (and I would guess probably > expression baseline adjustments as well). > 2. It idiotically goes nuts if a bar has too many beats (like a hard whole > rest in a 2/4 bar, which is frequently required for L1/L2 parts). > 3. It makes a mess of lyric text. > 4. It doesn't know how to create percussion staves that match the source > file, so percussion is a mess. > > Does anyone know a better way? > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: > finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: > finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
