Re: [Finale] [OT] plural of rubato = rubati?
SN jef chippewa wrote: does this word actually exist? according to "Polyglottes Wörterbuch der Musikalischen Terminologie" published 1980 by International Musicological Society there is just the term "rubato" like "allegro", "marcato" etc. On the other hand - now that you refer to "rubati" it does exist and may turn out useful. Somehow your question is related to questions like do unicorns, angels etc. exist? "This gives musicians some freedom for rubati and interpretation." ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale -- Christian Mondrup, Archive Editor WIMA: Werner Icking Music Archive http://icking-music-archive.org/ ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] O.T. Explanation of a manuscript
John Howell wrote: At 9:39 PM -0500 5/9/10, Noel Stoutenburg wrote: Kim Patrick Clow wrote: I'm not exactly sure what the expression under the first violin means "ottava bassa" or ottava basso." Or how this would impact performance. This is the first time I've encountered this phrase in Graupner's music. I'm with Dennis as far as the top part dropping in parallel with the lower two, but I don't see it as a manuscript error, but rather as an example of using symbols to keep the music as much as practicable within the bounds of the staff. The other two sounding parts drop from the upper portion of their respective staves, to the lower portion, but if the top does that as well, many of the notes in the top sounding part will be below the staff; using the ottava bassa symbol is a way to place the music without confusing the user which staff the music is associated with. I expect it's impact upon performance would be that the player encountering it would expect to play (or hear the music played, if this is is a conductor's score) an octave lower than written. On the contrary, I wouldn't expect the player to see it at all, since the copyist should have taken care to copy it correctly into the part. I've used LOTS of shorthand in some of my scores written under deadline, but always copied the parts accurately. Kim, do you have parts to compare, or just the score? And in terms of performance practice (or actually composing practice), in the baroque if a composer had felt a compulsion to avoid ALL ledger lines, he simply would have changed clefs, since all musicians were expected to be fluent in the 9 movable clefs. Bach certainly was! But I doubt that such a consideration would have occurred to an 18th century musician, since it was unusual for clefs to change in the parts with the exception of viola da gamba parts that might jump from alto to bass clef if the music so jumped. Violin parts commonly used treble clef and used ledger lines both above and below the staff. I've recently completed modern editions of 5 concertos for flauto traverso and strings by the German/Danish composer Johann Adolf Scheibe (http://icking-music-archive.org/ByComposer/Scheibe.php), a generation younger than Graupner. The concertos were published in print by the composer; but only 18th century manuscript copies of the part books, preserved at the Royal Library, Copenhagen, exist today. My edition is based on facsimiles of these part books. In one of the concertos, 'Concerto ex D' (http://icking-music-archive.org/scores/scheibe/ConcD/ConcD.pdf), the middle Siciliano movement has the upper string parts (vl1, vl2, vla) frequently changing to bass clef where all strings go unisono. An interesting aspect of this is that some of these bass clef phrases are partly out the range of the instrument! There are links to the manuscript facsimiles in WIMA's Scheibe page John -- Christian Mondrup, Archive Editor WIMA: Werner Icking Music Archive http://icking-music-archive.org/ ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] [OT] national anthem scores (melody+lyrics)
Lawrence Yates wrote: Are there any specific ones you want? I was booked to play a few anthems at a ceremony last year and had to arrange everything for brass trio (trpt, horn; trombone) There is an internet site NationalAnthems.us offering lots of anthems incl. lyrics and - more or less - reasonable keyboard reduction scores; see http://www.nationalanthems.us/ Cheers, Lawrence 2010/1/22 SN jef chippewa i came across this source... euh, this one: http://www.nationalanthems.info ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale -- Christian Mondrup, Archive Editor WIMA: Werner Icking Music Archive http://icking-music-archive.org/ ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Music Notation: Fast bow
Jari Williamsson wrote: Christian Mondrup wrote: See Gardner Read, Music Notation, 2nd. Ed., Boston 1969, page 406, example 23-24 (section 'String notation, modern innovations). I'm not a Finale user and hence don't know whether the symbol has been implemented in Finale. You mean the 23-44? yes That's for fast tremolo, I mean for fast general bow speed. as I'm no string player I wouldn't know the difference. Sorry that I can't help with this matter Best regards, Jari Williamsson ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale -- Christian Mondrup, Archive Editor WIMA: Werner Icking Music Archive http://icking-music-archive.org/ ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Music Notation: Fast bow
Jari Williamsson wrote: Hello! I'm looking for any kind of "standard" notation symbol for playing string instruments with a fast bow speed. Does anyone know if any such symbol exists? See Gardner Read, Music Notation, 2nd. Ed., Boston 1969, page 406, example 23-24 (section 'String notation, modern innovations). I'm not a Finale user and hence don't know whether the symbol has been implemented in Finale. Best regards, Jari Williamsson ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale -- Christian Mondrup, Archive Editor WIMA: Werner Icking Music Archive http://icking-music-archive.org/ ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
