Re: [Finale] 2012 vs 2014.5 speed test, now a request for help

2016-07-25 Thread Raymond Horton
I have been carefully editing in 2012. As long as I don't click on the
expression tool, it doesn't crash. I just make a list of the expression
work that will need to be done in 2014.

Raymond Horton
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Minister of Music, Edwardsville (IN) United Methodist Church
Retired Bass Trombonist, Louisville Orchestra, 1971-2016


On Jul 25, 2016 5:32 PM,  wrote:

> Agh !!!
>
> Well, I guess I can give up my dream of composing the perfect symphony for
> 273 bagpipes with 15,000 measures, and 250 meter changes.
>
> And I had the first 1500 measures done already.  It was an Ab.
>
> - Original Message --------- Subject: Re: [Finale] 2012 vs 2014.5
> speed test, now a request for help
> From: "Raymond Horton" 
> Date: 7/25/16 5:18 pm
> To: finale@shsu.edu
>
> No, in both 2012 and 2014 the export spun forever. Thanks
>
>  Raymond Horton
>  Composer, Arranger
>  Minister of Music, Edwardsville (IN) United Methodist Church
>  Retired Bass Trombonist, Louisville Orchestra, 1971-2016
>
>
>  On Jul 25, 2016 4:36 PM,  wrote:
>
>  > Raymond,
>  >
>  > Just curious if you were able to do the XML export/import. On really
>  > large scores, the 32,000 Frame ID limit will be a barrier, even if the
> XML
>  > thing can clean it up.
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Re: [Finale] 2012 vs 2014.5 speed test, now a request for help

2016-07-25 Thread Raymond Horton
Lol!

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Re: [Finale] 2012 vs 2014.5 speed test, now a request for help

2016-07-25 Thread craig
Agh !!!
 
Well, I guess I can give up my dream of composing the perfect symphony for 273 
bagpipes with 15,000 measures, and 250 meter changes.
 
And I had the first 1500 measures done already.  It was an Ab.
 
- Original Message - Subject: Re: [Finale] 2012 vs 2014.5 speed 
test, now a request for help
From: "Raymond Horton" 
Date: 7/25/16 5:18 pm
To: finale@shsu.edu

No, in both 2012 and 2014 the export spun forever. Thanks
 
 Raymond Horton
 Composer, Arranger
 Minister of Music, Edwardsville (IN) United Methodist Church
 Retired Bass Trombonist, Louisville Orchestra, 1971-2016
 
 
 On Jul 25, 2016 4:36 PM,  wrote:
 
 > Raymond,
 >
 > Just curious if you were able to do the XML export/import. On really
 > large scores, the 32,000 Frame ID limit will be a barrier, even if the XML
 > thing can clean it up.
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Re: [Finale] 2012 vs 2014.5 speed test, now a request for help

2016-07-25 Thread Raymond Horton
No, in both 2012 and 2014 the export spun forever. Thanks

Raymond Horton
Composer, Arranger
Minister of Music, Edwardsville (IN) United Methodist Church
Retired Bass Trombonist, Louisville Orchestra, 1971-2016


On Jul 25, 2016 4:36 PM,  wrote:

> Raymond,
>
> Just curious if you were able to do the XML export/import.  On really
> large scores, the 32,000 Frame ID limit will be a barrier, even if the XML
> thing can clean it up.
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Re: [Finale] 2012 vs 2014.5 speed test, now a request for help

2016-07-25 Thread craig
Raymond,
 
Just curious if you were able to do the XML export/import.  On really large 
scores, the 32,000 Frame ID limit will be a barrier, even if the XML thing can 
clean it up.
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Re: [Finale] 2012 vs 2014.5 speed test, now a request for help

2016-07-24 Thread Raymond Horton
Yes, thanks. I got in the habit of running a data check quite regularly.

Raymond Horton
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Minister of Music, Edwardsville (IN) United Methodist Church
Retired Bass Trombonist, Louisville Orchestra, 1971-2016


On Jul 24, 2016 3:35 AM, "David H. Bailey"  wrote:

> On 7/23/2016 6:55 PM, Raymond Horton wrote:
> > Well, exporting back to 2012 has not helped me a bit. Now this file
> crashes
> > everytime I click on anything. I'd appreciate any advice anyone has.
> Thanks
> >
>
>
> Have you done a data check?  That's the only thing I can think of.
>
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Re: [Finale] 2012 vs 2014.5 speed test, now a request for help

2016-07-24 Thread David H. Bailey
On 7/23/2016 6:55 PM, Raymond Horton wrote:
> Well, exporting back to 2012 has not helped me a bit. Now this file crashes
> everytime I click on anything. I'd appreciate any advice anyone has. Thanks
>


Have you done a data check?  That's the only thing I can think of.


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Re: [Finale] 2012 vs 2014.5 speed test, now a request for help

2016-07-23 Thread Raymond Horton
Well, exporting back to 2012 has not helped me a bit. Now this file crashes
everytime I click on anything. I'd appreciate any advice anyone has. Thanks

Raymond Horton
Composer, Arranger
Minister of Music, Edwardsville (IN) United Methodist Church
Retired Bass Trombonist, Louisville Orchestra, 1971-2016


On Jul 23, 2016 5:48 PM, "J D Thomas"  wrote:

> Hi Raymond,
>
> I have been having very similar issues with a two-act opera I’ve been
> working on.  Each act is about 1500 measures, full orchestra and up to 18
> characters in vocal lines with lyrics.  Everything you’re experiencing I
> have been dealing with for the past several months:
> saving file takes up to 18-20 seconds.
> time signature changes takes about 90 seconds.
> instrument changes take over a minute.
> JW Navigation plugin refuses to work at all on these files, but it works
> fine on other files.
> Lyric editing can be most frustrating.  I have each character with its own
> separate verse for overall organization, and sometimes, when selecting a
> verse, I get the spinning beachball for over a minute.  But it’s quite
> random.
> File size more than doubled when converting from 2012.
>
> This is all in Finale Mac 2014.  2014.5 is worse; completely unusable.
> And, to be honest, things weren’t much better back in 2012.  I abandoned
> that version since it’s quite buggy under my current OS, Yosemite 10.10.5.
>
> I have discussed these issues with MM, and they confirm Finale doesn’t
> like large files!  No shit Sherlock!!
>
> I know this doesn’t help your situation, but you’re not alone here.
>
> ***
> J D Thomas
> ThomaStudios
>
>
> > On Jul 23, 2016, at 2:20 PM, Raymond Horton 
> wrote:
> >
> > One more one more thing. Trudging along in 2014 now , I have been
> reminded
> > that every time signature change takes a very long time, about a minute
> or
> > so. I hope I can move this file back to 2012 before I die of boredom or
> old
> > age or both.
> >
> > Raymond Horton
> > Composer, Arranger
> > Minister of Music, Edwardsville (IN) United Methodist Church
> > Retired Bass Trombonist, Louisville Orchestra, 1971-2016
> >
> >
> > On Jul 23, 2016 3:25 PM, "Raymond Horton" 
> wrote:
> >
> >> I promised this several weeks ago but put it off. Unfortunately, today I
> >> was forced to go back and forth between the two versions because my file
> >> kept crashing in 2012.
> >> (Windows 10 , three year old computer that should be fast enough for
> most
> >> apps.)
> >> The file in question is more than 2,000 measures for orchestra, 5 voice
> >> parts, and two pianos. Orchestra is 8 Woodwinds, five brass, timpani,
> >> percussion, and a xylophone - Glockenspiel staff.
> >> Saving this file in 2012 takes about 3 seconds, in 2014 22 seconds!
> >> Exporting the 2014 file to a 2012 file takes about 11 seconds.
> >> So, I have been working on it in 2012 for the past several months. But
> the
> >> good news for 2014 is that the crashing that has been happening, today
> >> only, every time I edit a certain part of the score happens in 2012 but
> not
> >> 2014. So, despite the time problems, I may need to finish this file in
> 2014.
> >>
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