Re: [Finale] Does anybody think MM will ever fix the F2014 HP problems?

2015-03-31 Thread Craig Parmerlee
On 3/31/2015 11:34 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I'm actually wondering whether anyone has any solutions to the fp problem in 
> Fin2014, which is actually becoming a real problem for me.
>
> The "Set Rhythmic Feel to 0%" workaround is okay for the note-cutout problem, 
> but the only solution I know to the almost-silent fp's is to put the notation 
> in a layer set to not play back, then enter the music in a hidden layer with 
> no fp's.
>
> Cheers,
>

On the finale forum, somebody discovered a reference to "Finale 2014.5". 
  That was an accidental release by MakeMusic,  But to their credit, 
they did follow up with the posting repeated below.

I believe Mr. Tschiggfrie accepts private messages at the forum.  I 
suggest you ask him about fp, the scoops and falls, and the various 
other HP-related things.  He may not be able to give a specific answer, 
but it is worth a try.  At least we might find out if that is a 
priority.  Surely it should be.  I know many people are struggling with 
these playback bugs.

Another HP thing that seems to be a bug introduced with 2014 is that 
volumes are all over the place sometimes.  I have found that if you 
don't explicitly put a dynamic mark before and after each hairpin, you 
can't count on the playback.  And even when you do that, some 
instruments seem to be much lower in the mix than others even though 
they all have the same mixer settings.

=


We recently published an updated version of the User Manual that 
unintentionally included the information described in this thread.

As previously announced, our goal for Finale development going forward 
is to increase quality and improve user experience. Finale 2014.5, the 
next incremental update to Finale 2014, will continue our work toward 
modernizing Finale and improving its performance. We haven’t set a 
release date for the update, but already our development team has fixed 
numerous defects and are making use of the data collection we 
implemented in 2014d.

I’ve rolled back the online user manual to remove the information. While 
the release isn’t quite ready yet, rest assured that we’re well on our 
way to making Finale better than ever.

Happy musicking, Jon Tschiggfrie
Technical Communications Specialist
MakeMusic, Inc.






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Re: [Finale] Does anybody think MM will ever fix the F2014 HP problems?

2015-03-31 Thread Darcy James Argue
Hi all,

I'm actually wondering whether anyone has any solutions to the fp problem in 
Fin2014, which is actually becoming a real problem for me. 

The "Set Rhythmic Feel to 0%" workaround is okay for the note-cutout problem, 
but the only solution I know to the almost-silent fp's is to put the notation 
in a layer set to not play back, then enter the music in a hidden layer with no 
fp's.

Cheers,

- DJA
-
WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org

On Mar 26, 2015, at 11:14 PM, Craig Parmerlee  wrote:

> There are all sorts of problems introduced in F2014 in the area of HP:
> 
> - fp no longer works correctly
> 
> - Scoops and falls almost never work right now
> 
> - Often note-off comes AFTER note-on of the following note, causing the 
> second note to be chopped short or not sound at all.
> 
> None of these things happened to me at 2012.  Many people have had these 
> problems, but the company seems to have no interest in correcting any 
> bugs (or no ability to do so), even these high-impact, pervasive things.
> 
> Anybody placing any odds on whether we will ever see any fixes at the 
> 2014 level?
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Re: [Finale] Does anybody think MM will ever fix the F2014 HP problems?

2015-03-27 Thread Craig Parmerlee
On 3/27/2015 7:39 AM, Alberto Guzmán Naranjo wrote:
> Another problem in F2014d is de GPO and Aria player. The engine no longer
> works as expected. I have no sounds in my files
>

That sounds like more of a set-up problem than a "Finale bug" per se. 
You should get sounds under 2014, just not always the exact phrasing or 
styling you would expect.

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Re: [Finale] Does anybody think MM will ever fix the F2014 HP problems?

2015-03-27 Thread Alberto Guzmán Naranjo
Another problem in F2014d is de GPO and Aria player. The engine no longer
works as expected. I have no sounds in my files

Alberto Guzmán Naranjo
Director de Orquesta - Compositor
Profesor Titular Universidad del Valle



2015-03-27 4:05 GMT-05:00 Jan Angermüller :

>
> >Often note-off comes AFTER note-on of the following note, causing the
> >second note to be chopped short or not sound at all.
> I have notified MM of this bug more than one year go and they confirmed
> the behaviour.
> This is a workaround I found out (not confirmed by MM):
> set "Rhythmic Feel" in a Human Playback style "Custom" to 0%.
> All note dropouts did disappear on my PC, although I am not
> sure if this is true for every MIDI/VST environment.
> But it seems like the "Rhythmic Feel" is the only parameter
> that creates an overlapping note-on/note-off with repeating notes.
>
> It's sad that MM doesn't take these HP issues too seriously
> as it limits Finale's playback qualities.
>
> Jan
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Re: [Finale] Does anybody think MM will ever fix the F2014 HP problems?

2015-03-27 Thread Jan Angermüller

>Often note-off comes AFTER note-on of the following note, causing the
>second note to be chopped short or not sound at all.
I have notified MM of this bug more than one year go and they confirmed the 
behaviour.
This is a workaround I found out (not confirmed by MM):
set "Rhythmic Feel" in a Human Playback style "Custom" to 0%.
All note dropouts did disappear on my PC, although I am not
sure if this is true for every MIDI/VST environment.
But it seems like the "Rhythmic Feel" is the only parameter
that creates an overlapping note-on/note-off with repeating notes.

It's sad that MM doesn't take these HP issues too seriously
as it limits Finale's playback qualities.

Jan

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Re: [Finale] Does anybody think MM will ever fix the F2014 HP problems?

2015-03-26 Thread Ryan Beard
I believe there will be an update to 2014. 

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> On Mar 26, 2015, at 8:14 PM, Craig Parmerlee  wrote:
> 
> There are all sorts of problems introduced in F2014 in the area of HP:
> 
> - fp no longer works correctly
> 
> - Scoops and falls almost never work right now
> 
> - Often note-off comes AFTER note-on of the following note, causing the 
> second note to be chopped short or not sound at all.
> 
> None of these things happened to me at 2012.  Many people have had these 
> problems, but the company seems to have no interest in correcting any 
> bugs (or no ability to do so), even these high-impact, pervasive things.
> 
> Anybody placing any odds on whether we will ever see any fixes at the 
> 2014 level?
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[Finale] Does anybody think MM will ever fix the F2014 HP problems?

2015-03-26 Thread Craig Parmerlee
There are all sorts of problems introduced in F2014 in the area of HP:

- fp no longer works correctly

- Scoops and falls almost never work right now

- Often note-off comes AFTER note-on of the following note, causing the 
second note to be chopped short or not sound at all.

None of these things happened to me at 2012.  Many people have had these 
problems, but the company seems to have no interest in correcting any 
bugs (or no ability to do so), even these high-impact, pervasive things.

Anybody placing any odds on whether we will ever see any fixes at the 
2014 level?
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