Re: [Finale] Finale 2005 announced

2004-08-18 Thread Giovanni Andreani
...and my decision whether or not to buy 2K5 will be based
entirely upon whether it proves to be more reliable and 
user-friendly than 2K4...

Andrew Stiller
Kallisti Music Press


Another thing one should consider if not really needing or wanting to upgrade:
if I don't upgrade from (let's say) 2k4 to 2k5 that 'll save something
like $ 85.00, and I'll keep saving money if not upgrading to latest other
versions (if it's a matter of sense, obviously); but, what will I have to
spend when purchasing a large upgrade (let's say, from 2k4 to 2k7)? So,
the question is, will purchasing all the upgrades let save money compared
to few large upgrading?

Giovanni Andreani

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Re: [Finale] Finale 2005 announced

2004-08-17 Thread Giovanni Andreani
When I purchased the upgrade to Finale 2004 I phoned Finale's customer
service and they told me I could not buy the software from them and
should have to contact a local dealer.
Result: products ships a little later (it's ok for me, using Finale in
English; the translated version, in any case, ships 2/5 months later) and
cost much more. One example for all: MS Office, in Italy (English
version) costs more than the double price you pay in the U.S.

Giovanni Andreani


Does anyone know when European dealers will have it?
Or does anyone know how much duty we have to pay in Europe if we order
from MM?

Thanks,

Dennis



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Re: [Finale] Finale 2005 announced

2004-08-17 Thread Rocky Road
Title: Re: [Finale] Finale 2005
announced


*
New Fit Width Command.

That will be nice for viewing. I always use Fit Width
in MS Word. Great way to quickly choose and define the size you
want.

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leads a ragtag, fugitive fleet, on a lonely quest, for a shining
planet known as Earth.

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Re: [Finale] Finale 2005 announced

2004-08-17 Thread dhbailey
Craig Parmerlee wrote:
Maybe there's some fluff, maybe not.  But they hit the two biggest 
product defects, IMHO: tuplets and repeats.  If they even got those 
halfway right, 90 bucks for that is a no-brainer.  I'll make that up in 
productivity savings on the very first project.  And if, by some stroke 
of good fortune, they have actually made simple note entry even 
marginally useful, that would be a big bonus.
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And if the hype of improved hyperscribe is true, where it now records 
and utilizes CC data, such as sustain pedal, that also may be a big help 
for many people for whom hyperscribe has been less than helpful.

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Re: [Finale] Finale 2005 announced

2004-08-17 Thread Javier Ruiz
In Canary Islands I pay the shipping, the special kind of VAT we have (5%)
and then the customs processing costs, normally 30 euros. (I guess than in
your case the VAT is something like 20%).
  
At the end is almost the same than buying it from a dealer, but at least you
have it sooner.

Javier

 Does anyone know when European dealers will have it?
 
 Or does anyone know how much duty we have to pay in Europe if we order from
 MM?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Dennis
 
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Re: [Finale] Finale 2005 announced

2004-08-17 Thread Éric Dussault
And what about speed on the mac side?

Éric

Le 17 août 2004, à 10:21, Darcy James Argue a écrit :

Well, in the reliability dept., they *did* fix the autosave/text block bug.

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Re: [Finale] Finale 2005 announced

2004-08-16 Thread Aaron Sherber
Jari, if you're out there -- now that Coda has released info about Fin2005, 
can you post your review so that we can see what's *really* interesting?

Thanks,
Aaron.
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Re: [Finale] Finale 2005 announced

2004-08-16 Thread Eric Dannewitz
More reasonable upgrade price. The Tuplet placements and repeats stuff 
might be all I'd use in the new upgrade..

There is a LOT of fluff in this new version.
Brad Beyenhof wrote:
http://www.finalemusic.com/finale/features/new/
A few of the new features are marketing fluff, but some of them
(including grace note spacing, tuplet placement, and the hybrid
Mac/Windows CD) look very promising.
 

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Re: [Finale] Finale 2005 announced

2004-08-16 Thread dhbailey
Eric Dannewitz wrote:
More reasonable upgrade price. The Tuplet placements and repeats stuff 
might be all I'd use in the new upgrade..

There is a LOT of fluff in this new version.
But then there's been a lot of fluff in each new version since about 
Fin97.  We old veterans have to face the facts -- while our upgrade 
business is important, what is more important to MakeMusic is the vast 
untapped market of new customers, those who might otherwise be buying 
Sibelius.

As always, we have to hope that the non-fluff improvements are worth the 
price of admission.

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Re: [Finale] Finale 2005 announced

2004-08-16 Thread Owain Sutton

dhbailey wrote:

As always, we have to hope that the non-fluff improvements are worth the 
price of admission.

Absolutely.  Grace notes and tuplets sorted out, if they live up to the 
promise, will reduce my workload by about half in many pieces.
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Re: [Finale] Finale 2005 announced

2004-08-16 Thread Eric Dannewitz
Indeed, but the Fluff level is pretty extreme this time. Lanch menu? 
Performance Assessment? Now isn't the latter starting to blur with 
SmartMusic? I like that you can save Finale pieces to SmartMusic, 
but.having Finale now acts a scaled down SmartMusic thing is getting 
a little too fluffy for me...

However, the tuplets, and repeats and spacing improvements sound great!
dhbailey wrote:
But then there's been a lot of fluff in each new version since about 
Fin97.  We old veterans have to face the facts -- while our upgrade 
business is important, what is more important to MakeMusic is the vast 
untapped market of new customers, those who might otherwise be buying 
Sibelius.

As always, we have to hope that the non-fluff improvements are worth 
the price of admission.

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Re: [Finale] Finale 2005 announced

2004-08-16 Thread Noel Stoutenburg
Friends
FWIW, I ordered my upgrade; scheduled to ship this coming Friday.
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Re: [Finale] Finale 2005 announced

2004-08-16 Thread Brad Beyenhof
On Mon, 16 Aug 2004 15:05:02 -0500, Noel Stoutenburg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 FWIW, I ordered my upgrade; scheduled to ship this coming Friday.

Whoa... I didn't think it would ship so soon. I thought this was more
of an announcement of features, and not really an announcement of
actual availablility. It does say Pre-order, after all. Did you
notice anything mentioning how long the pre-order period will last?

I suppose I'll be ordering soon as well.

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Re: [Finale] Finale 2005 announced

2004-08-16 Thread Jari Williamsson
Aaron Sherber writes:

 Jari, if you're out there -- now that Coda has released info about Fin2005, 
 can you post your review so that we can see what's *really* interesting?

I will post a review! However, I'm waiting for my contact at MM to 
give me the go-ahead signal for the posting of the review.


Best regards,

Jari Williamsson

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Re: [Finale] Finale 2005 announced

2004-08-16 Thread Jari Williamsson
I just wrote:

 I will post a review! However, I'm waiting for my contact at MM to 
 give me the go-ahead signal for the posting of the review.

FYI: I can post the review tomorrow (Tuesday)!

Best regards,

Jari Williamsson

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Re: [Finale] Finale 2005 announced

2004-08-16 Thread dhbailey
Brad Beyenhof wrote:
On Mon, 16 Aug 2004 15:05:02 -0500, Noel Stoutenburg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

FWIW, I ordered my upgrade; scheduled to ship this coming Friday.

Whoa... I didn't think it would ship so soon. I thought this was more
of an announcement of features, and not really an announcement of
actual availablility. It does say Pre-order, after all. Did you
notice anything mentioning how long the pre-order period will last?
I suppose I'll be ordering soon as well.
It did say that the expected ship date is August 20.
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Re: [Finale] Finale 2005 announced

2004-08-16 Thread Craig Parmerlee
Maybe there's some fluff, maybe not.  But they hit the two biggest 
product defects, IMHO: tuplets and repeats.  If they even got those 
halfway right, 90 bucks for that is a no-brainer.  I'll make that up in 
productivity savings on the very first project.  And if, by some stroke 
of good fortune, they have actually made simple note entry even 
marginally useful, that would be a big bonus.
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