Re: [Finale] TAN: GPO on Mac mini

[A-NO-NE Music]

So I did a bit more homework.

It seems it works better if you leave long samples such as piano in DFD
mode.  RAM-based, such as GPO works in RAM because each sample is small,
but it is still not ideal when it comes to a big score like Darcy's. 
More the instruments, you will need streaming.

I also found GPO's competitor, EWQLSO which also use NI player works fine
with DFD mode, and some people thinks the fact GPO doesn't work well
under DFD mode is a deal breaker.

For me, looking for upcoming jazz instrument sets, the rumor sez EWQLSO
is also putting it up against Garritan.  Interesting.  Competition is
good for us :-)

Is anyone using EWQLSO with Finale?  It would be great if we could do
comparison with GPO.

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Re: [Finale] TAN: GPO on Mac mini

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Darcy James Argue / 05.3.8 / 02:40 AM wrote:

>Look, Hiro, I'm just going by what I read on the Garritan website (as 
>well as user reports from readers who have tried the DFD extension):

Darcy.  My apology.
I did some homework, and you are absolutely right, and Garritan's claim
of his stuff works better under RAM-based is correct because his sample
is small.  Streaming is needed when sample gets bigger because it doesn't
fit in the max RAM instance limit.

Hate to admit it, but streaming sampler seems not to work well on Mac as
it does on Windows.  MOTU seems to made it possible so MachFive does save
cpu when streaming, but it seems to be an exception.

P.S. I have Win2K machine for dedicated virtual instrument host
controlled from Mac
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Re: [Finale] TAN: GPO on Mac mini

[A-NO-NE Music]

Darcy,

I forgot to ask.
Did you try moving GPO to separate volume/disk to see if it improves your
problem?


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Re: [Finale] TAN: GPO on Mac mini

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Darcy James Argue / 05.3.8 / 02:40 AM wrote:

>Look, Hiro, I'm just going by what I read on the Garritan website (as 
>well as user reports from readers who have tried the DFD extension):

I see.  Thanks for the info.  I am glad Garritan jazz instrument is not
out yet since I was going to jump on it.  If GPO doesn't support
streaming for the reason I don't understand, and streaming is the common
virtual sampler design to save cpu right now, I need to seek other
alternatives.

OSX CA made real-time disk I/O much more efficient than it used to be. 
Before Jaguar, it was difficult to design it because of the vm structure.
 Under OS9, even some of the DAW such as ProTools craps out if OS disk
cache is not set to very low.  That was a thing of the past.

With current OSX, you can record and playback many tracks with low-end
machine despite the drive speed.  DSP processing is a different issue, of
course.

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Re: [Finale] TAN: GPO on Mac mini

[Darcy James Argue]

Look, Hiro, I'm just going by what I read on the Garritan website (as 
well as user reports from readers who have tried the DFD extension):

http://www.garritan.com/DFDpage.html
First: YOU PROBABLY DO NOT NEED DFD AND WE DO NOT RECOMMEND IT!
Garritan Personal Orchestra (GPO) was specifically designed to run in 
RAM (Random Access Memory) and DFD is not recommended. GPO is a small 
footprint library and was not intended to stream from a hard drive. 
Large sample libraries may require disc streaming, but this library 
does not and is designed as a RAM based library. Our recommended 
requirements as stated in the GPO license agreement call for a minimum 
of 1 (one) gigabyte of RAM in order to be able to load a complete 
orchestra. The vast majority of GPO Users meet the recommended 
requirements. So the old adage applies: "If it aint broke don't fix 
it". Just because the DFD Extension is available here does not mean 
that we recommend it. If you meet the RAM requirement, you do not need 
DFD.

As a general rule, running from RAM is more efficient that streaming 
from disc. Samples are instantly available and there are no 
bottlenecks in the HD pipeline with running from RAM. Not so with disc 
streaming. There may be latency problems and DFD is more taxing on the 
hard drive. DFD may actually slow performance rather than speed it. 
Moreover, if you already have more than 1 GB of RAM, DFD may not work 
smoothly on your system.

 SO, WHY THE DFD EXTENSION?
Some GPO users do not have sufficient RAM, either due to the 
limitations of their computers or other reasons, and have requested 
the ability to load more samples with less RAM. For these few cases 
DFD may help. Remember, if you have 1 gigabyte or more of RAM, you do 
not need this download. Some have achieve acceptable results with less 
than the required RAM. If you have a choice between DFD and your 
computer can handle more RAM, opt for the additional RAM. It is cheap 
and will performer better than DFD.

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On 08 Mar 2005, at 1:45 AM, A-NO-NE Music wrote:
Darcy James Argue / 05.3.8 / 01:27 AM wrote:
DFD mode
theoretically works better if you have lots of processing power but
limited RAM.
Not true.
RAM based sampler is extremely cpu intensive since cpu have to work 
hard
to i/o memory address, and current OSX API limits one application
instance to 4 GB (theoretically.  It's like 3.6GB in real life), and
samples are not that small to fit there.  That's why streaming 
conserves
power.  If Kontakt Player has problem with it, and DFD is NI propriety
technology, my money is on the way how NI does, that they port their
engine from Windows.

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Re: [Finale] TAN: GPO on Mac mini

[A-NO-NE Music]

Darcy James Argue / 05.3.8 / 01:27 AM wrote:

>DFD mode 
>theoretically works better if you have lots of processing power but 
>limited RAM.

Not true.
RAM based sampler is extremely cpu intensive since cpu have to work hard
to i/o memory address, and current OSX API limits one application
instance to 4 GB (theoretically.  It's like 3.6GB in real life), and
samples are not that small to fit there.  That's why streaming conserves
power.  If Kontakt Player has problem with it, and DFD is NI propriety
technology, my money is on the way how NI does, that they port their
engine from Windows.

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Re: [Finale] TAN: GPO on Mac mini

[Darcy James Argue]

On 08 Mar 2005, at 1:15 AM, A-NO-NE Music wrote:
Darcy James Argue / 05.3.7 / 04:37 PM wrote:
GPO is RAM-based.  There's a DFD (direct-from-disk) option, but that
only makes things worse.
You mean Kontakt is, because GPO is just a set of samples :-)
No, I meant what I said: GPO is RAM-based.  GPO includes a *customized* 
version of the Kontakt Player which has been optimized for use with GPO 
(and in fact works exclusively with GPO).  In its first iteration, the 
GPO Kontakt Player  was RAM-based only, because the GPO samples were 
(and still are) designed to be stored in RAM.

I can't comment on the full version of Kontakt because I don't own it.
I haven't tried DFD because Garritan *strongly* recommends against it, 
and the user reports have been almost universally awful.  DFD mode 
theoretically works better if you have lots of processing power but 
limited RAM.  I suppose if you had a dual 2.5 GHz G5 with just 512 MB 
of RAM, it might work out, but realistically, who on earth shells out 
for a top-of-the-line machine and *doesn't* upgrade the RAM?

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Re: [Finale] TAN: GPO on Mac mini

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Darcy James Argue / 05.3.7 / 04:37 PM wrote:

>GPO is RAM-based.  There's a DFD (direct-from-disk) option, but that 
>only makes things worse.

You mean Kontakt is, because GPO is just a set of samples :-)
Anyway, I was wondering where you stored GPO?  If it is on your boot
volume, streaming won't work in general.  It needs to be at least
separate partition, if not separate disk.  Even FW would make it better,
I believe.

I have MachFive.  The version 1 didn't offer streaming.  At that time, I
was trying to run it on my lowly Dual-450/1.5GB, and cpu hit was terrible
when I instantiated more than 3 of heavy samples.  Version 1.1 (I think)
came with streaming option, and it took out a huge chunk of cpu usage, in
the exchange of editing capability.  If you want to edit sample, you have
to switch to RAM mode.

Giga is still the industrial standard, and it is _the_ streaming sampler
with editing capability.  They made it possible by handling streaming at
lower kernel level, and this is the very reason they can't port it to
Mac.  Heck they even had the problem porting to NT5 kernel until the end
of its life (I think they support it now, tho).

MOTU is coming out with orchestra lib in near future, and I hope they
come up with good stuff.

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Re: [Finale] TAN: GPO on Mac mini

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On Mar 7, 2005, at 1:37 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote:
GPO is RAM-based.  There's a DFD (direct-from-disk) option, but that 
only makes things worse.
Funny.  In my world, "DFD" means Dietrich Fischer-Dieskau.
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Re: [Finale] TAN: GPO on Mac mini

[Darcy James Argue]

GPO is RAM-based.  There's a DFD (direct-from-disk) option, but that 
only makes things worse.

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On 07 Mar 2005, at 2:38 PM, A-NO-NE Music wrote:
Darcy James Argue / 05.3.6 / 10:35 PM wrote:
Glad I could help -- however, I would advise you to get more RAM for
GPO regardless.  I'm barely squeaking by with 1 GB (the maximum amount
of RAM my Mac mini will take).  I would go for 2 GB RAM in a flash, if
it were possible on my machine.  The 1 GB limit is my one big regret
about the mini.

Is this mean Kontakt is not a streaming player?  This puzzles me 
because
I understand Kontakt won't offer sample editing, so there is no reason 
to
be RAM based player.

The fact GPO relies on NI product is making me hesitate buying it.
By the way, you would be much happier if you buy a simple sequencer,
where you import SMF from Finale, and print track(s) when you don't 
have
enough CPU power to play all the NI instances.  I used to run FM7 and
Battery on my Mac until I got really tired of how NI doesn't care Mac 
user.

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Re: [Finale] TAN: GPO on Mac mini

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Darcy James Argue / 05.3.6 / 10:35 PM wrote:

>Glad I could help -- however, I would advise you to get more RAM for 
>GPO regardless.  I'm barely squeaking by with 1 GB (the maximum amount 
>of RAM my Mac mini will take).  I would go for 2 GB RAM in a flash, if 
>it were possible on my machine.  The 1 GB limit is my one big regret 
>about the mini.


Is this mean Kontakt is not a streaming player?  This puzzles me because
I understand Kontakt won't offer sample editing, so there is no reason to
be RAM based player.

The fact GPO relies on NI product is making me hesitate buying it.

By the way, you would be much happier if you buy a simple sequencer,
where you import SMF from Finale, and print track(s) when you don't have
enough CPU power to play all the NI instances.  I used to run FM7 and
Battery on my Mac until I got really tired of how NI doesn't care Mac user.


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Re: [Finale] TAN: GPO on Mac mini

[Darcy James Argue]

I always have the reverb set to "bypass" (i.e, turned off) and I've 
removed the "Wet" instruments from my GPO folder entirely, so I don't 
load them by accident.  (I hate big mushy reverb anyway -- I wanna hear 
the notes, not the room.)

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On 06 Mar 2005, at 10:32 PM, Williams, Jim wrote:
Ray & Darcy,
If you are using Ambience Reverb, try dialing it down to about 60-70% 
if you haven't done so already.
I take it you have done the usual check that you are using dry 
instruments...
That may stop the CPU overload...it does help on a PC; I assume it 
also will on the Mac.

Jim
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	Thanks so much for passing this along!
	
	I had no idea this was possible.  I was getting ready to buy more RAM
	just for GPO.  Maybe I won't have to, now!
	
	Raymond Horton
	
	Darcy James Argue wrote:
	
	> ...
	> By the way, the instructions on how to change the polyphony for each
	> instrument in GPO are hard to find (and, in one instance, 
misleading)
	> so as a courtesy, I'm repeating that info here.  In the Kontakt 
player
	> window, below the "CPU Usage" indicator and directly to the left of
	> the MIDI channel indicator, there's a window with a pair of eighth
	> notes and a pair of numbers -- for instance, "0/64".  The first 
number
	> tells you how many notes are currently sounding, and the second 
number
	> tells you the maximum polyphony for that instrument.  Click and drag
	> on the *second* number to adjust the polyphony -- drag up to 
increase,
	> drag down to decrease.
	>
	> ...
	> You should set all of your wind instruments to a maximum polyphony 
of
	> 1 -- this actually makes the playback more realistic.  Set any
	> multitimbral instruments (including percussion) to the minimum
	> polyphony you can stand.  If you let the polyphony pile up too high,
	> GPO will choke and plaback will grind to a halt.
	>
	
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Re: [Finale] TAN: GPO on Mac mini

[Darcy James Argue]

Hi Raymond,
Glad I could help -- however, I would advise you to get more RAM for 
GPO regardless.  I'm barely squeaking by with 1 GB (the maximum amount 
of RAM my Mac mini will take).  I would go for 2 GB RAM in a flash, if 
it were possible on my machine.  The 1 GB limit is my one big regret 
about the mini.

Also, the polyphony problems aren't so much a RAM issue as a processor 
speed issue.  You need a lot of physical RAM just to be able to load 
the instruments in the first place, but you also need a lot of 
processing power to play them all at once.

- Darcy
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On 06 Mar 2005, at 10:14 PM, Raymond Horton wrote:
Thanks so much for passing this along!
I had no idea this was possible.  I was getting ready to buy more RAM 
just for GPO.  Maybe I won't have to, now!
Raymond Horton

Darcy James Argue wrote:
...
By the way, the instructions on how to change the polyphony for each 
instrument in GPO are hard to find (and, in one instance, misleading) 
so as a courtesy, I'm repeating that info here.  In the Kontakt 
player window, below the "CPU Usage" indicator and directly to the 
left of the MIDI channel indicator, there's a window with a pair of 
eighth notes and a pair of numbers -- for instance, "0/64".  The 
first number tells you how many notes are currently sounding, and the 
second number tells you the maximum polyphony for that instrument.  
Click and drag on the *second* number to adjust the polyphony -- drag 
up to increase, drag down to decrease.

...
You should set all of your wind instruments to a maximum polyphony of 
1 -- this actually makes the playback more realistic.  Set any 
multitimbral instruments (including percussion) to the minimum 
polyphony you can stand.  If you let the polyphony pile up too high, 
GPO will choke and plaback will grind to a halt.

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RE: [Finale] TAN: GPO on Mac mini

[Williams, Jim]

Ray & Darcy,
If you are using Ambience Reverb, try dialing it down to about 60-70% if you 
haven't done so already.
I take it you have done the usual check that you are using dry instruments...
That may stop the CPU overload...it does help on a PC; I assume it also will on 
the Mac.
 
Jim

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Thanks so much for passing this along!

I had no idea this was possible.  I was getting ready to buy more RAM
just for GPO.  Maybe I won't have to, now!

Raymond Horton

Darcy James Argue wrote:

> ...
> By the way, the instructions on how to change the polyphony for each
> instrument in GPO are hard to find (and, in one instance, misleading)
> so as a courtesy, I'm repeating that info here.  In the Kontakt player
> window, below the "CPU Usage" indicator and directly to the left of
> the MIDI channel indicator, there's a window with a pair of eighth
> notes and a pair of numbers -- for instance, "0/64".  The first number
> tells you how many notes are currently sounding, and the second number
> tells you the maximum polyphony for that instrument.  Click and drag
> on the *second* number to adjust the polyphony -- drag up to increase,
> drag down to decrease.
>
> ...
> You should set all of your wind instruments to a maximum polyphony of
> 1 -- this actually makes the playback more realistic.  Set any
> multitimbral instruments (including percussion) to the minimum
> polyphony you can stand.  If you let the polyphony pile up too high,
> GPO will choke and plaback will grind to a halt.
>

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Re: [Finale] TAN: GPO on Mac mini

[Raymond Horton]

Thanks so much for passing this along! 

I had no idea this was possible.  I was getting ready to buy more RAM 
just for GPO.  Maybe I won't have to, now! 

Raymond Horton
Darcy James Argue wrote:
...
By the way, the instructions on how to change the polyphony for each 
instrument in GPO are hard to find (and, in one instance, misleading) 
so as a courtesy, I'm repeating that info here.  In the Kontakt player 
window, below the "CPU Usage" indicator and directly to the left of 
the MIDI channel indicator, there's a window with a pair of eighth 
notes and a pair of numbers -- for instance, "0/64".  The first number 
tells you how many notes are currently sounding, and the second number 
tells you the maximum polyphony for that instrument.  Click and drag 
on the *second* number to adjust the polyphony -- drag up to increase, 
drag down to decrease.

...
You should set all of your wind instruments to a maximum polyphony of 
1 -- this actually makes the playback more realistic.  Set any 
multitimbral instruments (including percussion) to the minimum 
polyphony you can stand.  If you let the polyphony pile up too high, 
GPO will choke and plaback will grind to a halt.

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Re: [Finale] TAN: GPO on Mac mini

[Darcy James Argue]

Hi Steve et al.,
I was actually able to solve 95% of my problems by reducing the 
polyphony in the piano and harp parts in the score I'm working on.  
That's not a big deal for me -- in this piece, at least, I don't need 
anywhere near the 64-note polyphony GPO assigns those instruments by 
default.  I set them to 12 each, and playback was *much* improved.  I 
still get periodic light clicks when playing back in Finale, but I'm 
hopeful that those will go away when I try to record to file.  The 
important thing is that GPO playback no longer crashes and burns on me, 
even with 17 instruments playing simultaneously.

By the way, the instructions on how to change the polyphony for each 
instrument in GPO are hard to find (and, in one instance, misleading) 
so as a courtesy, I'm repeating that info here.  In the Kontakt player 
window, below the "CPU Usage" indicator and directly to the left of the 
MIDI channel indicator, there's a window with a pair of eighth notes 
and a pair of numbers -- for instance, "0/64".  The first number tells 
you how many notes are currently sounding, and the second number tells 
you the maximum polyphony for that instrument.  Click and drag on the 
*second* number to adjust the polyphony -- drag up to increase, drag 
down to decrease.

[By the way, the user interface for the Kontakt player is almost as bad 
as the UI for iKey 2.  Really, it's that bad.  You'll notice there's no 
way to adjust the maximum polyphony by say, TYPING IN A GODDAMN NUMBER. 
 Gah.  Sorry, just had to get that off my chest.]

You should set all of your wind instruments to a maximum polyphony of 1 
-- this actually makes the playback more realistic.  Set any 
multitimbral instruments (including percussion) to the minimum 
polyphony you can stand.  If you let the polyphony pile up too high, 
GPO will choke and plaback will grind to a halt.

By the way, it would be nice if we could set a *global* maximum 
polyphony in GPO, in addition to the settings for each individual 
instruments.  This would let you get away with lots of polyphony on 
unaccompanied or lightly accompanied piano or harp parts, but reduce it 
on the fly when GPO starts to get overloaded.

Finally, Kontakt 2.0 is supposed to be much better optimized for Mac, 
and so hopefully eventually there will be a GPO Kontakt Player based on 
Kontakt 2.0.

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On 05 Mar 2005, at 8:12 PM, Steve Gibons wrote:
Darcy,
The playback ability of GPO on a mac vs that on a PC is just awful. 
The most I could ever get on my 867mhz 15" Powerbook was 6 
instruments. So you could get 12. Maybe.

I have a 2.2 ghz PC. It cost $350. I have not found a limit on GPO.
There has been talk of improvement on the mac side but there has been 
none.

steve, still peeved.
On Mar 5, 2005, at 6:54 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote:
Hi -- I crossposted this to the Northern Sound Forum:
http://northernsounds.com/forum/showthread.php?p=268507#post268507
Okay, I've finally tried to get a moderately large score to play back 
in GPO via Finale 2005b on my 1.42 GHz Mac mini with 1 GB of RAM.

 The results, unfortunately, are not encouraging.
Here are the instruments I'm using:
GPO PLAYER 1
 Flute Player 1
 Flute Player 2
 Eb Clarinet Solo
 Bb Clarinet Solo
 Bass Clarinet Solo
GPO PLAYER 2
 Trumpet 1 Player 1 KS
 Trumpet 1 Player 2 KS
 Trumpet 1 Player 3 KS
 Trumpet 1 Solo KS
 Trumpet 1 Player 1 KS
GPO PLAYER 3
 Tenor Trombone Player 1 KS
 Tenor Trombone Player 2 KS
 Tenor Trombone Player 3 KS
 Bass Trombone 2 Solo
GPO PLAYER 4
 Chromatic Harp 1 Lite
 Steinway Piano Lite
 Double Bass Pizz Solo
 Ambience reverb is set to "Bypass."
 Everything starts okay, but when the dynamics get more intense 
and/or the music gets busier, I get a ton of cracks in Finale, and, 
shortly thereafter, playback grinds to a halt in a sea of cracking, 
usually picking up much later when the texture thins out.

 I tried the "Record to File" option in GPO studio, after quitting 
everything except GPO Studio and Finale, turning AirPort off, setting 
Finale playback to "Non-Scrolling (pre-scan)," and minimizing the 
Finale window and all GPO windows except the "Record To File" one.

 Some of the cracks audible during initial playback are eliminated in 
the recorded file, but the big problem is that in many areas where 
the texture is dense, the tempo speeds up! The resulting AIFF file is 
therefore useless.

 What to do? Is it even possible to get a score like this to play 
back on my hardware? Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

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Re: [Finale] TAN: GPO on Mac mini

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Darcy,
The playback ability of GPO on a mac vs that on a PC is just awful. The 
most I could ever get on my 867mhz 15" Powerbook was 6 instruments. So 
you could get 12. Maybe.

I have a 2.2 ghz PC. It cost $350. I have not found a limit on GPO.
There has been talk of improvement on the mac side but there has been 
none.

steve, still peeved.
On Mar 5, 2005, at 6:54 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote:
Hi -- I crossposted this to the Northern Sound Forum:
http://northernsounds.com/forum/showthread.php?p=268507#post268507
Okay, I've finally tried to get a moderately large score to play back 
in GPO via Finale 2005b on my 1.42 GHz Mac mini with 1 GB of RAM.

 The results, unfortunately, are not encouraging.
Here are the instruments I'm using:
GPO PLAYER 1
 Flute Player 1
 Flute Player 2
 Eb Clarinet Solo
 Bb Clarinet Solo
 Bass Clarinet Solo
GPO PLAYER 2
 Trumpet 1 Player 1 KS
 Trumpet 1 Player 2 KS
 Trumpet 1 Player 3 KS
 Trumpet 1 Solo KS
 Trumpet 1 Player 1 KS
GPO PLAYER 3
 Tenor Trombone Player 1 KS
 Tenor Trombone Player 2 KS
 Tenor Trombone Player 3 KS
 Bass Trombone 2 Solo
GPO PLAYER 4
 Chromatic Harp 1 Lite
 Steinway Piano Lite
 Double Bass Pizz Solo
 Ambience reverb is set to "Bypass."
 Everything starts okay, but when the dynamics get more intense and/or 
the music gets busier, I get a ton of cracks in Finale, and, shortly 
thereafter, playback grinds to a halt in a sea of cracking, usually 
picking up much later when the texture thins out.

 I tried the "Record to File" option in GPO studio, after quitting 
everything except GPO Studio and Finale, turning AirPort off, setting 
Finale playback to "Non-Scrolling (pre-scan)," and minimizing the 
Finale window and all GPO windows except the "Record To File" one.

 Some of the cracks audible during initial playback are eliminated in 
the recorded file, but the big problem is that in many areas where the 
texture is dense, the tempo speeds up! The resulting AIFF file is 
therefore useless.

 What to do? Is it even possible to get a score like this to play back 
on my hardware? Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

- Darcy
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Brooklyn, NY
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[Finale] TAN: GPO on Mac mini

[Darcy James Argue]

Hi -- I crossposted this to the Northern Sound Forum:
http://northernsounds.com/forum/showthread.php?p=268507#post268507
Okay, I've finally tried to get a moderately large score to play back 
in GPO via Finale 2005b on my 1.42 GHz Mac mini with 1 GB of RAM.

 The results, unfortunately, are not encouraging.
Here are the instruments I'm using:
GPO PLAYER 1
 Flute Player 1
 Flute Player 2
 Eb Clarinet Solo
 Bb Clarinet Solo
 Bass Clarinet Solo
GPO PLAYER 2
 Trumpet 1 Player 1 KS
 Trumpet 1 Player 2 KS
 Trumpet 1 Player 3 KS
 Trumpet 1 Solo KS
 Trumpet 1 Player 1 KS
GPO PLAYER 3
 Tenor Trombone Player 1 KS
 Tenor Trombone Player 2 KS
 Tenor Trombone Player 3 KS
 Bass Trombone 2 Solo
GPO PLAYER 4
 Chromatic Harp 1 Lite
 Steinway Piano Lite
 Double Bass Pizz Solo
 Ambience reverb is set to "Bypass."
 Everything starts okay, but when the dynamics get more intense and/or 
the music gets busier, I get a ton of cracks in Finale, and, shortly 
thereafter, playback grinds to a halt in a sea of cracking, usually 
picking up much later when the texture thins out.

 I tried the "Record to File" option in GPO studio, after quitting 
everything except GPO Studio and Finale, turning AirPort off, setting 
Finale playback to "Non-Scrolling (pre-scan)," and minimizing the 
Finale window and all GPO windows except the "Record To File" one.

 Some of the cracks audible during initial playback are eliminated in 
the recorded file, but the big problem is that in many areas where the 
texture is dense, the tempo speeds up! The resulting AIFF file is 
therefore useless.

 What to do? Is it even possible to get a score like this to play back 
on my hardware? Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

- Darcy
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Brooklyn, NY
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