Re: [Finale] inserting measures
Robert Florence wrote: Hi All, I am attempting to insert 2 measures in a piece. They won't insert and I get a spinning cursor and I have to escape. I'm pretty sure everything is set correctly. This has never happened before. I am on MacFin 2007c. Thanks for any help. Bob Florence I fixed it with update layout. BF ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] inserting measures
Looks like file corruption. Standard panic protocols apply. I append them here in case you don't know them, courtesy of Dennis B-K (the first paragraph would apply to you): Save the file under a new name, delete the offending measure completely, re-save the file, close it, exit Finale, and restart and re-open. Then do a data check, re-save, exit, restart and re-open. Insert a new blank measure where it's needed, data check, re-save, exit, restart, re- open. Then re-enter the material by hand into the new blank measure, re- save, data check, re-save, exit, restart, re-open. By the time I've gone through all these steps, the nasty measures seem to have been scrubbed out. (In older version of Finale that support ETF, sometimes saving the ETF and reloading from there will fix it.) (I also have workarounds for font crashes, the buggy retrograde plugin, and the PDF dashed-line proliferation. All were posted to the list.) And I'll repeat Dennis's Safe Practices Ass-Saver from early 2006, which also provides a trail of versions so you can go back and recover pre-screwed-up documents: 1. Turn a program's automated backup OFF. 2. Turn a program's backup-when-saving ON (not necessary, but a stupidity-safeguard). 3. Create my first file of a project with "001" in the name (such as "HighBirds 001.mus" or "RFID Predictions for 2006-001.doc"). 4. At every thought-pause, do a "Save As...", incrementing the filename by 1. (The thought-pause save is second nature now. In 11 muscle-memory keystrokes, I've created a safe harbor for my work -- and a running history if it's something I'm composing.) 5. Save all documents, exit the program, and restart it. 6. Re-open the document and "Save As...", incrementing the filename by 1. In Finale, I add these additional safeguards: 1. At every major revision or addition point, do a Data Check for deleted items and document integrity. 2. Then "Save as..." under the next incremented name. 3. At every major stopping point (dinner, sleep, Scotch), exit Finale and delete everything in the TEMP directory. 4. When extracting parts, immediately save the parts and score under new names (not just Finale's names), exit the program, and re-open everything to begin actual work. Sorry about that. Make sure you open a case with MakeMusic with the file attached. They should know about these issues. Christopher On Jan 30, 2008, at 1:26 PM, Robert Florence wrote: Hi All, I am attempting to insert 2 measures in a piece. They won't insert and I get a spinning cursor and I have to escape. I'm pretty sure everything is set correctly. This has never happened before. I am on MacFin 2007c. Thanks for any help. Bob Florence ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] inserting measures
Actually, Hal's solution is a lot less involved than mine. I suggest using his method if it works for you. Christopher On Jun 3, 2007, at 4:54 PM, Bob Florence wrote: Harold Owen wrote: Hi Bob. I had some trouble inserting some measures while in Page View FinMac2007). If I did it in Scroll View, went to the first measure, and updated the layout it would work. Another work-around might be 1) add the two bars at the end, 2) cut them using Cmnd-X, then 3) go to the place you want them and use Cmnd-I to insert them. It's a shame that things tend to get flaky after 200 bars or so. Hal >>> Hi Hal, I got the same solution from Christopher Smith. Thanks for the reply, BF Hi All; I have a piece for jazz band that is 641 measures long. It goes back and forth between 6/4 and 3/2. I want to add 2 measures in the middle.It keeps shutting down . Is this not possible. I am on Mac Fin 2007. Thanks, Bob Florence ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] inserting measures
Harold Owen wrote: Hi Bob. I had some trouble inserting some measures while in Page View FinMac2007). If I did it in Scroll View, went to the first measure, and updated the layout it would work. Another work-around might be 1) add the two bars at the end, 2) cut them using Cmnd-X, then 3) go to the place you want them and use Cmnd-I to insert them. It's a shame that things tend to get flaky after 200 bars or so. Hal >>> Hi Hal, I got the same solution from Christopher Smith. Thanks for the reply, BF Hi All; I have a piece for jazz band that is 641 measures long. It goes back and forth between 6/4 and 3/2. I want to add 2 measures in the middle.It keeps shutting down . Is this not possible. I am on Mac Fin 2007. Thanks, Bob Florence ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] inserting measures
Harold Owen wrote: [snip]> It's a shame that things tend to get flaky after 200 bars or so. [snip] Perhaps it's just MakeMusic's acknowledgement of our diminishing attention spans. :-) -- David H. Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] inserting measures
Hi Bob. I had some trouble inserting some measures while in Page View FinMac2007). If I did it in Scroll View, went to the first measure, and updated the layout it would work. Another work-around might be 1) add the two bars at the end, 2) cut them using Cmnd-X, then 3) go to the place you want them and use Cmnd-I to insert them. It's a shame that things tend to get flaky after 200 bars or so. Hal Hi All; I have a piece for jazz band that is 641 measures long. It goes back and forth between 6/4 and 3/2. I want to add 2 measures in the middle.It keeps shutting down . Is this not possible. I am on Mac Fin 2007. Thanks, Bob Florence ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale -- Harold Owen 1375 Olive Street #402, Eugene, OR 97401 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit my web site at: http://uoregon.edu/~hjowen/ FAX: (509) 461-3608 ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] inserting measures
On May 31, 2007, at 5:06 PM, Bob Florence wrote: Hi All; I have a piece for jazz band that is 641 measures long. It goes back and forth between 6/4 and 3/2. I want to add 2 measures in the middle.It keeps shutting down . Is this not possible. I am on Mac Fin 2007. Bob, I responded to this question on May 26. I suppose you didn't get my answer. Here it is again. BTW, this problem has been cropping up a lot in 2007. Please let MakeMusic know, and include the file. There might be some sort of file corruption problem. * This happened to a friend of mine just recently in FinMac2007. The file has been corrupted somehow. I was able to help him out of it in the following way: Select all, then save as a clip file (on Mac that's hold down Opt while cutting from the Edit Menu, might be Alt on Windows.) Delete every measure in the piece except one (this should expunge the corrupted part.) Select this measure in all staves. Insert from the clip file (on Mac, hold down Opt while selecting Insert from Clip File from the Edit Menu, on Windows it's probalby Alt again.) Delete the last measure. You have now probably lost all your double bars, and maybe measure- attached expressions, but at least you will be able to insert and edit, which you couldn't before. Christopher ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] inserting measures
Should be. You might want to do a Data Check on the file to make sure something isn't messed in there, which might be causing the crashes. Other than that, it should work fine I would think. Bob Florence wrote: Hi All; I have a piece for jazz band that is 641 measures long. It goes back and forth between 6/4 and 3/2. I want to add 2 measures in the middle.It keeps shutting down . Is this not possible. I am on Mac Fin 2007. Thanks, Bob Florence ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
RE: [Finale] inserting measures
Bob, You might want to check the file for data errors. Richard Willis -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Florence Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 9:57 PM To: Finale Subject: [Finale] inserting measures I've tried the usual way of inserting measures. I keep getting a spinning 8th noet. Bob F. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.4/825 - Release Date: 5/30/2007 3:03 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.4/825 - Release Date: 5/30/2007 3:03 PM ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] inserting measures
Bob, Should be possible. Use the measure tool, highlight the measure after the place you want to insert the measures, then select "insert" from the menu and type "2", and it should work. If that doesn't do it, I don't know what it is that might be wrong. Chuck On May 31, 2007, at 2:06 PM, Bob Florence wrote: Hi All; I have a piece for jazz band that is 641 measures long. It goes back and forth between 6/4 and 3/2. I want to add 2 measures in the middle.It keeps shutting down . Is this not possible. I am on Mac Fin 2007. Thanks, Bob Florence ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale Chuck Israels 230 North Garden Terrace Bellingham, WA 98225-5836 phone (360) 671-3402 fax (360) 676-6055 www.chuckisraels.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
