Re: [Finale] Finale 2012 Printing parts from a PDF file

[David H. Bailey]

On 12/19/2017 2:06 PM, Martin Nickless wrote:
> Hi
> I didn’t know that does it apply to the score
> Eg if I send a pdf Score to a colleague that uses the Bayliss will there be 
> mistakes as I suspect this has happened to me
> 

The mistakes which were mentioned only happen if you're using the 
built-in Finale "export to PDF" function -- printing to an external PDF 
printer won't have those mistakes.

I haven't tested the Microsoft PDF printer, but I know that many of the 
independent PDF "printers" such as CutePDF produce small and efficient 
PDF files.

-- 
*
David H. Bailey
dhbaile...@comcast.net
http://www.davidbaileymusicstudio.com
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Re: [Finale] Finale 2012 Printing parts from a PDF file

[Lee Actor]

I just did a quick test on a recent Finale file.  Results:

Microsoft Print to PDF: 701K
Bullzip: 328K

Both had all fonts embedded and look similar on screen under high
magnification (though with Bullzip I can specify the internal resolution in
dpi).  Perhaps some of the difference is that I have the Bullzip default set
to B output, while Microsoft probably makes all pdfs 24-bit color.
Personally, I want all my music pdfs to be B  The Microsoft solution
appears to have no configuration options other than paper size and
orientation.  Good to know that it's there, though.

-Lee

-Original Message-
From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of
Aaron Sherber
Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2017 10:09 AM
To: finale@shsu.edu
Subject: Re: [Finale] Finale 2012 Printing parts from a PDF file

Windows 10 now includes the ability for all apps to print to PDF without
additional software. In the Print dialog in Finale, click the Setup button
and choose the "Microsoft Print to PDF" printer.

Aaron.

On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 12:33 PM, Lee Actor <l...@leeactor.com> wrote:

> I've said it on several previous occasions, but it's worth repeating: 
> do not, under any circumstances, use the built-in Finale pdf export.  
> It has serious bugs (printing unwanted characters in unexpected 
> locations) and produces enormous file sizes (up to 10x other pdf 
> solutions).  It's from a 3rd party developer, so Makemusic is unable 
> to fix it.  Why they continue to include this fatally flawed 
> implementation is a mystery (they know it's broken).
>
> The pdf printer I always recommend is Bullzip.  It's extremely stable, 
> very fast, and produces the smallest file sizes of any such product 
> I've surveyed
> -- and I've tried pretty much all of them (including CutePDF).
>
> -Lee
>
> -Original Message-
> From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On 
> Behalf Of Girard Bowe
> Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2017 7:37 AM
> To: finale@shsu.edu
> Subject: Re: [Finale] Finale 2012 Printing parts from a PDF file
>
> Yes. I use CutePDF Writer. You just send your files to it as you would 
> a printer. Unfortunately, Finale appends an "X" to each filename. It's 
> a known issue, but . . . .
>
> http://www.cutepdf.com/
>
> You can export to pdf in Finale, but you have to do each file 
> individually, and rename it if you want the partname included in the 
> filename. I submitted a request to make "export to pdf" function as 
> the printer function does (selection of multiple files, partname 
> included). I was told it was a good idea. . . .
>
> -Original Message-
> From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On 
> Behalf Of Martin Nickless
> Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2017 7:53 AM
> To: Finale@shsu.edu
> Subject: [Finale] Finale 2012 Printing parts from a PDF file
>
>
> Hi there is it possible to export just the parts or score and parts  
> in to a PDF which I can then email for the recipient to print off my 
> arrangement as They wish I use windows 10 Very Best Thanks for any 
> help
>
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Re: [Finale] Finale 2012 Printing parts from a PDF file

[Martin Nickless]

Great I’ll check it now thanks

Sent from my iPhone

> On 19 Dec 2017, at 18:09, Aaron Sherber <aa...@sherber.com> wrote:
> 
> Windows 10 now includes the ability for all apps to print to PDF without
> additional software. In the Print dialog in Finale, click the Setup button
> and choose the "Microsoft Print to PDF" printer.
> 
> Aaron.
> 
>> On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 12:33 PM, Lee Actor <l...@leeactor.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I've said it on several previous occasions, but it's worth repeating: do
>> not, under any circumstances, use the built-in Finale pdf export.  It has
>> serious bugs (printing unwanted characters in unexpected locations) and
>> produces enormous file sizes (up to 10x other pdf solutions).  It's from a
>> 3rd party developer, so Makemusic is unable to fix it.  Why they continue
>> to
>> include this fatally flawed implementation is a mystery (they know it's
>> broken).
>> 
>> The pdf printer I always recommend is Bullzip.  It's extremely stable, very
>> fast, and produces the smallest file sizes of any such product I've
>> surveyed
>> -- and I've tried pretty much all of them (including CutePDF).
>> 
>> -Lee
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf
>> Of
>> Girard Bowe
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2017 7:37 AM
>> To: finale@shsu.edu
>> Subject: Re: [Finale] Finale 2012 Printing parts from a PDF file
>> 
>> Yes. I use CutePDF Writer. You just send your files to it as you would a
>> printer. Unfortunately, Finale appends an "X" to each filename. It's a
>> known
>> issue, but . . . .
>> 
>> http://www.cutepdf.com/
>> 
>> You can export to pdf in Finale, but you have to do each file individually,
>> and rename it if you want the partname included in the filename. I
>> submitted
>> a request to make "export to pdf" function as the printer function does
>> (selection of multiple files, partname included). I was told it was a good
>> idea. . . .
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf
>> Of
>> Martin Nickless
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2017 7:53 AM
>> To: Finale@shsu.edu
>> Subject: [Finale] Finale 2012 Printing parts from a PDF file
>> 
>> 
>> Hi there is it possible to export just the parts or score and parts  in to
>> a
>> PDF which I can then email for the recipient to print off my arrangement
>> as
>> They wish I use windows 10 Very Best Thanks for any help
>> 
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Re: [Finale] Finale 2012 Printing parts from a PDF file

[Aaron Sherber]

Windows 10 now includes the ability for all apps to print to PDF without
additional software. In the Print dialog in Finale, click the Setup button
and choose the "Microsoft Print to PDF" printer.

Aaron.

On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 12:33 PM, Lee Actor <l...@leeactor.com> wrote:

> I've said it on several previous occasions, but it's worth repeating: do
> not, under any circumstances, use the built-in Finale pdf export.  It has
> serious bugs (printing unwanted characters in unexpected locations) and
> produces enormous file sizes (up to 10x other pdf solutions).  It's from a
> 3rd party developer, so Makemusic is unable to fix it.  Why they continue
> to
> include this fatally flawed implementation is a mystery (they know it's
> broken).
>
> The pdf printer I always recommend is Bullzip.  It's extremely stable, very
> fast, and produces the smallest file sizes of any such product I've
> surveyed
> -- and I've tried pretty much all of them (including CutePDF).
>
> -Lee
>
> -Original Message-
> From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf
> Of
> Girard Bowe
> Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2017 7:37 AM
> To: finale@shsu.edu
> Subject: Re: [Finale] Finale 2012 Printing parts from a PDF file
>
> Yes. I use CutePDF Writer. You just send your files to it as you would a
> printer. Unfortunately, Finale appends an "X" to each filename. It's a
> known
> issue, but . . . .
>
> http://www.cutepdf.com/
>
> You can export to pdf in Finale, but you have to do each file individually,
> and rename it if you want the partname included in the filename. I
> submitted
> a request to make "export to pdf" function as the printer function does
> (selection of multiple files, partname included). I was told it was a good
> idea. . . .
>
> -Original Message-
> From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf
> Of
> Martin Nickless
> Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2017 7:53 AM
> To: Finale@shsu.edu
> Subject: [Finale] Finale 2012 Printing parts from a PDF file
>
>
> Hi there is it possible to export just the parts or score and parts  in to
> a
> PDF which I can then email for the recipient to print off my arrangement
> as
> They wish I use windows 10 Very Best Thanks for any help
>
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Re: [Finale] Finale 2012 Printing parts from a PDF file

[Lee Actor]

Sorry, I can't decipher your comment.

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From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of 
Martin Nickless
Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2017 11:07 AM
To: finale@shsu.edu
Subject: Re: [Finale] Finale 2012 Printing parts from a PDF file

Hi
I didn t know that does it apply to the score Eg if I send a pdf Score to a 
colleague that uses the Bayliss will there be mistakes as I suspect this has 
happened to me

Sent from my iPhone

> On 19 Dec 2017, at 17:33, Lee Actor <l...@leeactor.com> wrote:
> 
> I've said it on several previous occasions, but it's worth repeating: 
> do not, under any circumstances, use the built-in Finale pdf export.  
> It has serious bugs (printing unwanted characters in unexpected 
> locations) and produces enormous file sizes (up to 10x other pdf 
> solutions).  It's from a 3rd party developer, so Makemusic is unable 
> to fix it.  Why they continue to include this fatally flawed 
> implementation is a mystery (they know it's broken).
> 
> The pdf printer I always recommend is Bullzip.  It's extremely stable, 
> very fast, and produces the smallest file sizes of any such product 
> I've surveyed
> -- and I've tried pretty much all of them (including CutePDF).
> 
> -Lee
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On 
> Behalf Of Girard Bowe
> Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2017 7:37 AM
> To: finale@shsu.edu
> Subject: Re: [Finale] Finale 2012 Printing parts from a PDF file
> 
> Yes. I use CutePDF Writer. You just send your files to it as you would 
> a printer. Unfortunately, Finale appends an "X" to each filename. It's 
> a known issue, but . . . .
> 
> http://www.cutepdf.com/
> 
> You can export to pdf in Finale, but you have to do each file 
> individually, and rename it if you want the partname included in the 
> filename. I submitted a request to make "export to pdf" function as 
> the printer function does (selection of multiple files, partname 
> included). I was told it was a good idea. . . .
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On 
> Behalf Of Martin Nickless
> Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2017 7:53 AM
> To: Finale@shsu.edu
> Subject: [Finale] Finale 2012 Printing parts from a PDF file
> 
> 
> Hi there is it possible to export just the parts or score and parts  
> in to a PDF which I can then email for the recipient to print off my 
> arrangement  as They wish I use windows 10 Very Best Thanks for any 
> help
> 
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Re: [Finale] Finale 2012 Printing parts from a PDF file

[Martin Nickless]

Hi 
I didn’t know that does it apply to the score 
Eg if I send a pdf Score to a colleague that uses the Bayliss will there be 
mistakes as I suspect this has happened to me

Sent from my iPhone

> On 19 Dec 2017, at 17:33, Lee Actor <l...@leeactor.com> wrote:
> 
> I've said it on several previous occasions, but it's worth repeating: do
> not, under any circumstances, use the built-in Finale pdf export.  It has
> serious bugs (printing unwanted characters in unexpected locations) and
> produces enormous file sizes (up to 10x other pdf solutions).  It's from a
> 3rd party developer, so Makemusic is unable to fix it.  Why they continue to
> include this fatally flawed implementation is a mystery (they know it's
> broken).
> 
> The pdf printer I always recommend is Bullzip.  It's extremely stable, very
> fast, and produces the smallest file sizes of any such product I've surveyed
> -- and I've tried pretty much all of them (including CutePDF).
> 
> -Lee
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of
> Girard Bowe
> Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2017 7:37 AM
> To: finale@shsu.edu
> Subject: Re: [Finale] Finale 2012 Printing parts from a PDF file
> 
> Yes. I use CutePDF Writer. You just send your files to it as you would a
> printer. Unfortunately, Finale appends an "X" to each filename. It's a known
> issue, but . . . .
> 
> http://www.cutepdf.com/
> 
> You can export to pdf in Finale, but you have to do each file individually,
> and rename it if you want the partname included in the filename. I submitted
> a request to make "export to pdf" function as the printer function does
> (selection of multiple files, partname included). I was told it was a good
> idea. . . .
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of
> Martin Nickless
> Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2017 7:53 AM
> To: Finale@shsu.edu
> Subject: [Finale] Finale 2012 Printing parts from a PDF file
> 
> 
> Hi there is it possible to export just the parts or score and parts  in to a
> PDF which I can then email for the recipient to print off my arrangement  as
> They wish I use windows 10 Very Best Thanks for any help 
> 
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Re: [Finale] Finale 2012 Printing parts from a PDF file

[Martin Nickless]

Thanks is it for windows as well as Mac
Thanks 

Sent from my iPhone

> On 19 Dec 2017, at 16:03, Raymond Horton <horton.raym...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I second the motion for cutePDF. I've been using it for years!
> 
> ​Raymond Horton
> Composer, Arranger
> Minister of Music, Edwardsville (IN) United Methodist Church
> Retired Bass Trombonist, Louisville Orchestra, 1971-2016
> Visit us at rayhortonmusic.com
> 
>> On Dec 19, 2017 11:02 AM, "Girard Bowe" <girard.b...@verizon.net> wrote:
>> 
>> CutePDF does just what it says it does, and no more. No spyware, no adware,
>> no nags. Very easy, and free!
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf
>> Of
>> Martin Nickless
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2017 10:46 AM
>> To: finale@shsu.edu
>> Subject: Re: [Finale] Finale 2012 Printing parts from a PDF file
>> 
>> Thanks was just looking at a few Some look as though they may be a perfect
>> hiding place for spyware so thank you for your advice
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Re: [Finale] Finale 2012 Printing parts from a PDF file

[Lee Actor]

I've said it on several previous occasions, but it's worth repeating: do
not, under any circumstances, use the built-in Finale pdf export.  It has
serious bugs (printing unwanted characters in unexpected locations) and
produces enormous file sizes (up to 10x other pdf solutions).  It's from a
3rd party developer, so Makemusic is unable to fix it.  Why they continue to
include this fatally flawed implementation is a mystery (they know it's
broken).

The pdf printer I always recommend is Bullzip.  It's extremely stable, very
fast, and produces the smallest file sizes of any such product I've surveyed
-- and I've tried pretty much all of them (including CutePDF).

-Lee

-Original Message-
From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of
Girard Bowe
Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2017 7:37 AM
To: finale@shsu.edu
Subject: Re: [Finale] Finale 2012 Printing parts from a PDF file

Yes. I use CutePDF Writer. You just send your files to it as you would a
printer. Unfortunately, Finale appends an "X" to each filename. It's a known
issue, but . . . .

http://www.cutepdf.com/

You can export to pdf in Finale, but you have to do each file individually,
and rename it if you want the partname included in the filename. I submitted
a request to make "export to pdf" function as the printer function does
(selection of multiple files, partname included). I was told it was a good
idea. . . .

-Original Message-
From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of
Martin Nickless
Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2017 7:53 AM
To: Finale@shsu.edu
Subject: [Finale] Finale 2012 Printing parts from a PDF file


Hi there is it possible to export just the parts or score and parts  in to a
PDF which I can then email for the recipient to print off my arrangement  as
They wish I use windows 10 Very Best Thanks for any help 

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Re: [Finale] Finale 2012 Printing parts from a PDF file

[Raymond Horton]

I second the motion for cutePDF. I've been using it for years!

​Raymond Horton
Composer, Arranger
Minister of Music, Edwardsville (IN) United Methodist Church
Retired Bass Trombonist, Louisville Orchestra, 1971-2016
Visit us at rayhortonmusic.com

On Dec 19, 2017 11:02 AM, "Girard Bowe" <girard.b...@verizon.net> wrote:

> CutePDF does just what it says it does, and no more. No spyware, no adware,
> no nags. Very easy, and free!
>
> -Original Message-
> From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf
> Of
> Martin Nickless
> Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2017 10:46 AM
> To: finale@shsu.edu
> Subject: Re: [Finale] Finale 2012 Printing parts from a PDF file
>
> Thanks was just looking at a few Some look as though they may be a perfect
> hiding place for spyware so thank you for your advice
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Re: [Finale] Finale 2012 Printing parts from a PDF file

[Girard Bowe]

CutePDF does just what it says it does, and no more. No spyware, no adware,
no nags. Very easy, and free!

-Original Message-
From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of
Martin Nickless
Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2017 10:46 AM
To: finale@shsu.edu
Subject: Re: [Finale] Finale 2012 Printing parts from a PDF file

Thanks was just looking at a few Some look as though they may be a perfect
hiding place for spyware so thank you for your advice 

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Re: [Finale] Finale 2012 Printing parts from a PDF file

[Martin Nickless]

Thanks was just looking at a few Some look as though they may be a perfect 
hiding place for spyware so thank you for your advice

Sent from my iPhone

> On 19 Dec 2017, at 15:37, Girard Bowe  wrote:
> 
> Yes. I use CutePDF Writer. You just send your files to it as you would a
> printer. Unfortunately, Finale appends an "X" to each filename. It's a known
> issue, but . . . .
> 
> http://www.cutepdf.com/
> 
> You can export to pdf in Finale, but you have to do each file individually,
> and rename it if you want the partname included in the filename. I submitted
> a request to make "export to pdf" function as the printer function does
> (selection of multiple files, partname included). I was told it was a good
> idea. . . .
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of
> Martin Nickless
> Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2017 7:53 AM
> To: Finale@shsu.edu
> Subject: [Finale] Finale 2012 Printing parts from a PDF file
> 
> 
> Hi there is it possible to export just the parts or score and parts  in to a
> PDF which I can then email for the recipient to print off my arrangement  as
> They wish I use windows 10 Very Best Thanks for any help 
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Re: [Finale] Finale 2012 Printing parts from a PDF file

[Girard Bowe]

Yes. I use CutePDF Writer. You just send your files to it as you would a
printer. Unfortunately, Finale appends an "X" to each filename. It's a known
issue, but . . . .

http://www.cutepdf.com/

You can export to pdf in Finale, but you have to do each file individually,
and rename it if you want the partname included in the filename. I submitted
a request to make "export to pdf" function as the printer function does
(selection of multiple files, partname included). I was told it was a good
idea. . . .

-Original Message-
From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of
Martin Nickless
Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2017 7:53 AM
To: Finale@shsu.edu
Subject: [Finale] Finale 2012 Printing parts from a PDF file


Hi there is it possible to export just the parts or score and parts  in to a
PDF which I can then email for the recipient to print off my arrangement  as
They wish I use windows 10 Very Best Thanks for any help 

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