Re: [Finale] GPO/non-GPO workflow question
Brad Beyenhof wrote: On 30/07/05, Darcy James Argue [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I suppose, but the best way to get around it is to simply use an application that can record the audio produced by any other application. The best one on the Mac is Audio Hijack Pro -- I don't know what the PC equivalents are, but I know they exist. For Windows that would be Total Recorder: http://www.highcriteria.com/ The Standard Edition is only $12, and worth every penny. or go to http://audacity.sourceforge.net/ and get Audacity, which is totally free, and works very well. -- David H. Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] GPO/non-GPO workflow question
or go to http://audacity.sourceforge.net/ and get Audacity, which is totally free, and works very well. Are you sure? I don't think Audacity can reroute internal audio in the same way that Audio Hijack can? I thought it was just an editor. Simon Troup Digital Music Art ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] GPO/non-GPO workflow question
Simon Troup wrote: or go to http://audacity.sourceforge.net/ and get Audacity, which is totally free, and works very well. Are you sure? I don't think Audacity can reroute internal audio in the same way that Audio Hijack can? I thought it was just an editor. You can record with it. There's a drop-down list of sources (the same as you have enabled in the Windows Mixer, Properties for Recording dialog.) -- David H. Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] GPO/non-GPO workflow question
At 07:26 AM 08/01/2005, Simon Troup wrote: Are you sure? I don't think Audacity can reroute internal audio in the same way that Audio Hijack can? Yes, it can. Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] GPO/non-GPO workflow question
A-NO-NE Music wrote: dhbailey / 2005/08/01 / 09:04 AM wrote: You can record with it. There's a drop-down list of sources (the same as you have enabled in the Windows Mixer, Properties for Recording dialog.) I am most curious. How Audacity can see Finale's output? Finale doesn't publish CA I/O by itself so you would need something like AudioJack that hacks low level CA. Are you on Windows? I think you are on a Mac, so I have no idea how you would get it to work. On Windows, there is a mixer where you can select which devices will appear as playback devices and which will appear as recording sources, and then you simply enable or disable them as you wish (sort of like having a MUTE button) and adjust the levels from the Windows Mixer which appears in the Systray. I have no clue how Audacity works internally, but I would assume it is making use of these settings in Windows Mixer, because all of the Recording Sources I have selected to show in that also appear in the drop-down list in Audacity. Within Audacity itself, I simply select the source I want and any output from that source is routed into the Audacity recording routine. I hope I have explained that clearly. Knowing that there are vast differences between MacOS and Windows, I can assume this area is no different. -- David H. Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] GPO/non-GPO workflow question
On 30 Jul 2005, at 6:34 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: On 30 Jul 2005 at 13:56, Darcy James Argue wrote: On 30 Jul 2005, at 12:02 PM, Andrew Levin wrote: One other marginally related question: I read here (or Jari's review, or the Finale web site -- sorry that I can't remember) that GPO output is only for the sound that comes out of your speakers. Saving as audio does not save the HP/GPO performance. Do I remember that correctly? Yes. That would be awful if it were the case. Yes it is. That feature is scheduled to be added in 2006a. Can you use the save HP as MIDI plugin (or whatever it's called) to get 'round that? I suppose, but the best way to get around it is to simply use an application that can record the audio produced by any other application. The best one on the Mac is Audio Hijack Pro -- I don't know what the PC equivalents are, but I know they exist. - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn, NY ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] GPO/non-GPO workflow question
At 02:31 AM 07/31/2005, Darcy James Argue wrote: I suppose, but the best way to get around it is to simply use an application that can record the audio produced by any other application. The main drawback to such things, of course, is that by definition they are real-time recording solutions. The 'Save as Audio File' which Finale introduced a couple of versions ago went much faster than this. One would hope for a GPO solution that works the same way. Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] GPO/non-GPO workflow question
On 30/07/05, Darcy James Argue [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I suppose, but the best way to get around it is to simply use an application that can record the audio produced by any other application. The best one on the Mac is Audio Hijack Pro -- I don't know what the PC equivalents are, but I know they exist. For Windows that would be Total Recorder: http://www.highcriteria.com/ The Standard Edition is only $12, and worth every penny. -- Brad Beyenhof [EMAIL PROTECTED] my blog: http://augmentedfourth.blogspot.com Life would be so much easier if only (3/2)^12=(2/1)^7. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] GPO/non-GPO workflow question
On 30 Jul 2005, at 12:02 PM, Andrew Levin wrote: What is the best way to start a new project in Finale? Setup Wizard. *There are times when I know I'll need GPO, so I'll start up with the GPO wizard There is no GPO Wizard. There is an option in the Setup Wizard to use GPO Finale Edition for playback. (sub-question: does the GPO wizard draw from the Maestro Default File Yes. * For instance, let's say I have a 17 staff score. Using Finale sans GPO means I'll have to double up on channels, as I only have 16 at my disposal. That's not true. You have 128 channels at your disposal (or 64 if you are using Fin GPO). If I later move to GPO I'll have to 're-wire' the channels, right? Not if you use the Setup Wizard * If I set up a score sans GPO and use pizz in the score without any further playback definition, Finale will play back arco, No, not if Human Playback is on. but with GPO it'll come out pizz (right?). If I define the pizz expression to playback as a patch change, would I have to change that definition when preparing the score for GPO? You don't have to define anything. With HP on, the same pizz expression works both with the Finale soundfont (and, I presume, any GM playback device) and GPO. * It seems non-HP, non-GPO is the least processor intensive, so I'd be inclined to do most of the work that way, then move to HP/GPO later. Am I asking for troubles this way? Not if you use the Setup Wizard. I think I have a modestly useful machine -- G5 dual 2.0 GHz, 2 GB RAM, OS X 10.4 You have plenty of horsepower for GPO. I think you'll find with the AU version of GPO, you can leave it on all the time. (You may have to reduce the polyphony of the piano, harp, percussion, strings, etc.) -- but I don't want to bog it down unnecessarily. However, I also don't want to prepare a score twice: one for GPO, one without. You don't have to. One other marginally related question: I read here (or Jari's review, or the Finale web site -- sorry that I can't remember) that GPO output is only for the sound that comes out of your speakers. Saving as audio does not save the HP/GPO performance. Do I remember that correctly? Yes. That would be awful if it were the case. Yes it is. That feature is scheduled to be added in 2006a. (I do have Audio Hijack Pro, so presumably I could record it that way, but it certainly wouldn't be an elegant solution). I agree, but Audio Hijack does work -- I've done it. I hope when Save as Audio is introduced, it isn't done in real-time -- in other words, I hope that the performance issues related to playing back large scores don't affect Save as Audio (as they do when Saving as Audio in GPO Studio). - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn, NY ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] GPO/non-GPO workflow question
On 30 Jul 2005 at 13:56, Darcy James Argue wrote: On 30 Jul 2005, at 12:02 PM, Andrew Levin wrote: [] One other marginally related question: I read here (or Jari's review, or the Finale web site -- sorry that I can't remember) that GPO output is only for the sound that comes out of your speakers. Saving as audio does not save the HP/GPO performance. Do I remember that correctly? Yes. That would be awful if it were the case. Yes it is. That feature is scheduled to be added in 2006a. Can you use the save HP as MIDI plugin (or whatever it's called) to get 'round that? -- David W. Fentonhttp://www.bway.net/~dfenton David Fenton Associateshttp://www.bway.net/~dfassoc ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
