Re: [Finale] Measure numbers in linked parts

2006-10-02 Thread David W. Fenton
On 2 Oct 2006 at 15:34, dc wrote:

 David W. Fenton écrit:
 There's no way to unlink positiong from the score? That doesn't make
 much sense to me.
 
 You can unlink in all parts from the score. What I meant - sorry if
 I wasn't clear - is that simply moving the numbers in the score
 without prior unlinking affects all the parts.

OK, then. I still don't know if your answer ways that it is possible 
to set the measure number position in the score (which will set it in 
the parts), unlink it, and then change it so that it's different for 
the score only, and the parts retain the original setting (which was 
appropriate for parts).

 Still, it would be nice to position measure numbers in the dialog box
 separately for each part if needed.

I agree, but if the above is possible, it doesn't sound like a 
terribly problematic situation.

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Re: [Finale] Measure numbers in linked parts

2006-09-30 Thread Christopher Smith


On Sep 30, 2006, at 4:27 AM, dc wrote:

Apologies if I'm stating something obvious, but I just realized,  
after complaining about the the placement of measure numbers in  
linked parts,  that one could unlink them by simply selecting them  
all and dragging them down (or up).


Really? That's something then.

But you would have to do it on EVERY extracted part separately,  
wouldn't you? And you can only select the measure numbers for an  
entire page at a time, so you would have to do it in three operations  
for a three-page part.


But at least you CAN do it. Congrats!

Christopher



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Re: [Finale] Measure numbers in linked parts

2006-09-30 Thread dhbailey

Christopher Smith wrote:


On Sep 30, 2006, at 4:27 AM, dc wrote:

Apologies if I'm stating something obvious, but I just realized, after 
complaining about the the placement of measure numbers in linked 
parts,  that one could unlink them by simply selecting them all and 
dragging them down (or up).


Really? That's something then.

But you would have to do it on EVERY extracted part separately, wouldn't 
you? And you can only select the measure numbers for an entire page at a 
time, so you would have to do it in three operations for a three-page part.


But at least you CAN do it. Congrats!



How does one select all the measure numbers and no other measure-tool 
handles?



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Re: [Finale] Measure numbers in linked parts

2006-09-30 Thread dhbailey

dc wrote:

dhbailey écrit:
How does one select all the measure numbers and no other measure-tool 
handles?


Ctrl A seems to select all the measure numbers and nothing else. But 
what other handles do you have, besides the two or three attached to 
each measure, which aren't affected by nudging?


Dennis


When I select the measure tool and hit ctrl-a, all the handles, 
including the barlines, are selected.  And while barlines aren't 
affected by up-down nudging, they are affected by left-right nudging, so 
if I chose to shift the numbers left-right, barlines (and thus some 
measure widths) will be affected.


I was just wondering if there was a way to select ONLY the measure 
number handles.


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Re: [Finale] Measure numbers in linked parts

2006-09-30 Thread Michael Cook
If you drag-select with the mouse, making sure that the first thing  
that is covered by the dragging rectangle is a measure number, only  
measure numbers should be selected.


On 30 Sep 2006, at 14:17, dhbailey wrote:
I was just wondering if there was a way to select ONLY the measure  
number handles.


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Re: [Finale] Measure numbers in linked parts

2006-09-30 Thread dhbailey

dc wrote:

dhbailey écrit:
When I select the measure tool and hit ctrl-a, all the handles, 
including the barlines, are selected.  And while barlines aren't 
affected by up-down nudging, they are affected by left-right nudging, 
so if I chose to shift the numbers left-right, barlines (and thus some 
measure widths) will be affected.


I was just wondering if there was a way to select ONLY the measure 
number handles.


You're right. Since I had only vertical nudging to do, I didn't think of 
this. There's still a way to select number handles only with the mouse 
if they are all vertically aligned.




Yes, if the work has measure numbers only at the start of each system. 
But your method falls apart if they are also spaced out in different 
locations.


Oh well, hopefully MM will take care of this issue in linked-score/parts 
v1.1.  :-)



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Re: [Finale] Measure numbers in linked parts

2006-09-30 Thread dhbailey

Michael Cook wrote:
If you drag-select with the mouse, making sure that the first thing that 
is covered by the dragging rectangle is a measure number, only measure 
numbers should be selected.




That's good news but it only works for the measure numbers on a single 
page, then, so the effort would have to be made for each page.


Hardly an effective method.

Personally, for works which have only a single measure number region, my 
previously suggested method of creating two identical regions, where the 
one which should show in the score only has the numbers positioned in 
one location and the one which would show only in parts having its 
unique settings.


Then the score-only region, when you want to print the score, is set to 
show starting with measure 1 (or 2), while the other region is set to 
show starting with measure [last-measure+1].  Simply reverse those 
starting with measure settings when one wants to print the linked parts.


For multiple measure number regions, this would be as big a pain in the 
butt as all the other kludges suggested.


However, Fin2007 has added an include in measure numbering checkbox 
which can be unchecked for any individual measures, so the days of 
requiring multiple measure number regions may be behind us, which will 
make my workaround not so difficult to live with.


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Re: [Finale] Measure numbers in linked parts

2006-09-30 Thread David W. Fenton
On 30 Sep 2006 at 19:59, dc wrote:

 David W. Fenton écrit:
 I haven't tried linked parts, but can't you set it to the right
 location in the score, then ctrl-drag in the score (which I'd assume
 would unlink it) to the correct location for the score? That would
 mean moving it only once.
 
 No, because what you do in the score applies to the score and all
 parts (which only makes sense, or else there would be no way to make a
 change that applies everywhere).

There's no way to unlink positiong from the score? That doesn't make 
much sense to me.

Or, you'd have to be able to change position on all parts at once.

I hope those of you who have Finale 2007 are putting in feature 
requests on this.

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