Re: [Finale] OT: Woodblocks in orchestra

2012-06-05 Thread Michael Lawlor
 Does hitting the conductor on the head count?

Only if it produces a sound -- but nobody would ever know that because 
nobody ever listens to conductors.
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Maybe because wood is an insulator, not a conductor.

Michael Lawlor

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Re: [Finale] OT: Woodblocks in orchestra

2012-06-05 Thread Graeme Gerrard
Probably in a piece by Edgard Varèse - if Ionisation is not an orchestral 
piece for you, then maybe Amériques or Arcana?


On 04/06/2012, at 1:57 AM, Robert Patterson wrote:

 A question came up at a rehearsal the other day. Does anyone know what
 piece has the first use of a woodblock in an orchestra?
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Re: [Finale] OT: Woodblocks in orchestra

2012-06-05 Thread rglan
At 9:53 PM +1000 5/6/12, Graeme Gerrard wrote:
Probably in a piece by Edgard Varèse

Bravo GG ;-) Nice try! I would have thought 'An American in Paris' 1928

raglan

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Re: [Finale] OT: Woodblocks in orchestra

2012-06-05 Thread SN jef chippewa

possibly earlier in jazz-influenced pieces

Importado de China, fue introducido en Europa con 
las orquestas de jazz, como accesorio de la 
batería.

[introduced to EURorchs as drumset acessory]


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Re: [Finale] OT: Woodblocks in orchestra

2012-06-04 Thread David H. Bailey
On 6/3/2012 2:02 PM, Phil Daley wrote:
 At 6/3/2012 12:38 PM, John Howell wrote:

   At 10:57 AM -0500 6/3/12, Robert Patterson wrote:
   A question came up at a rehearsal the other day. Does anyone know what
   piece has the first use of a woodblock in an orchestra?
   
   
   Whatever it was, it was probably in China a
   number of centuries ago!  There were orchestras
   in the world long before the Western European
   string bands caught on.

 Does hitting the conductor on the head count?


Only if it produces a sound -- but nobody would ever know that because 
nobody ever listens to conductors.


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Re: [Finale] OT: Woodblocks in orchestra

2012-06-03 Thread John Howell
At 10:57 AM -0500 6/3/12, Robert Patterson wrote:
A question came up at a rehearsal the other day. Does anyone know what
piece has the first use of a woodblock in an orchestra?


Whatever it was, it was probably in China a 
number of centuries ago!  There were orchestras 
in the world long before the Western European 
string bands caught on.

John


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Re: [Finale] OT: Woodblocks in orchestra

2012-06-03 Thread Phil Daley
At 6/3/2012 12:38 PM, John Howell wrote:

 At 10:57 AM -0500 6/3/12, Robert Patterson wrote:
 A question came up at a rehearsal the other day. Does anyone know what
 piece has the first use of a woodblock in an orchestra?
 
 
 Whatever it was, it was probably in China a
 number of centuries ago!  There were orchestras
 in the world long before the Western European
 string bands caught on.

Does hitting the conductor on the head count?

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Re: [Finale] OT: Woodblocks in orchestra

2012-06-03 Thread Robert Patterson
Ah. But I am interested in particular where it first appears in the score
of a western European orchestra.

On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 11:38 AM, John Howell john.how...@vt.edu wrote:

 At 10:57 AM -0500 6/3/12, Robert Patterson wrote:
 A question came up at a rehearsal the other day. Does anyone know what
 piece has the first use of a woodblock in an orchestra?


 Whatever it was, it was probably in China a
 number of centuries ago!  There were orchestras
 in the world long before the Western European
 string bands caught on.

 John


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 College of Liberal Arts  Human Sciences
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 Vox (540) 231-8411  Fax (540) 231-5034
 (mailto:john.how...@vt.edu)
 http://www.music.vt.edu/faculty/howell/howell.html

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Re: [Finale] OT: Woodblocks in orchestra

2012-06-03 Thread John Howell
Yes, I could tell.  If you like I could post your 
question on the OrchestraList, where there are a 
number of professional symphony percussionists 
who post regularly.  In fact I might just go 
ahead and ask anyway, in case anyone can come up 
with an answer.

John




At 1:03 PM -0500 6/3/12, Robert Patterson wrote:
Ah. But I am interested in particular where it first appears in the score
of a western European orchestra.

On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 11:38 AM, John Howell john.how...@vt.edu wrote:

   At 10:57 AM -0500 6/3/12, Robert Patterson wrote:
  A question came up at a rehearsal the other day. Does anyone know what
  piece has the first use of a woodblock in an orchestra?

  
  Whatever it was, it was probably in China a
  number of centuries ago!  There were orchestras
  in the world long before the Western European
  string bands caught on.

  John


  --
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  Virginia Tech Department of Music
  School of Performing Arts  Cinema
  College of Liberal Arts  Human Sciences
  290 College Ave., Blacksburg, Virginia 24061-0240
  Vox (540) 231-8411  Fax (540) 231-5034
  (mailto:john.how...@vt.edu)
  http://www.music.vt.edu/faculty/howell/howell.html

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