Re: [Finale] OT: Woodblocks in orchestra
Does hitting the conductor on the head count? Only if it produces a sound -- but nobody would ever know that because nobody ever listens to conductors. -- David H. Bailey dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com Maybe because wood is an insulator, not a conductor. Michael Lawlor ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: Woodblocks in orchestra
Probably in a piece by Edgard Varèse - if Ionisation is not an orchestral piece for you, then maybe Amériques or Arcana? On 04/06/2012, at 1:57 AM, Robert Patterson wrote: A question came up at a rehearsal the other day. Does anyone know what piece has the first use of a woodblock in an orchestra? ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: Woodblocks in orchestra
At 9:53 PM +1000 5/6/12, Graeme Gerrard wrote: Probably in a piece by Edgard Varèse Bravo GG ;-) Nice try! I would have thought 'An American in Paris' 1928 raglan ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: Woodblocks in orchestra
possibly earlier in jazz-influenced pieces Importado de China, fue introducido en Europa con las orquestas de jazz, como accesorio de la batería. [introduced to EURorchs as drumset acessory] ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: Woodblocks in orchestra
On 6/3/2012 2:02 PM, Phil Daley wrote: At 6/3/2012 12:38 PM, John Howell wrote: At 10:57 AM -0500 6/3/12, Robert Patterson wrote: A question came up at a rehearsal the other day. Does anyone know what piece has the first use of a woodblock in an orchestra? Whatever it was, it was probably in China a number of centuries ago! There were orchestras in the world long before the Western European string bands caught on. Does hitting the conductor on the head count? Only if it produces a sound -- but nobody would ever know that because nobody ever listens to conductors. -- David H. Bailey dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: Woodblocks in orchestra
At 10:57 AM -0500 6/3/12, Robert Patterson wrote: A question came up at a rehearsal the other day. Does anyone know what piece has the first use of a woodblock in an orchestra? Whatever it was, it was probably in China a number of centuries ago! There were orchestras in the world long before the Western European string bands caught on. John -- John R. Howell, Assoc. Prof. of Music Virginia Tech Department of Music School of Performing Arts Cinema College of Liberal Arts Human Sciences 290 College Ave., Blacksburg, Virginia 24061-0240 Vox (540) 231-8411 Fax (540) 231-5034 (mailto:john.how...@vt.edu) http://www.music.vt.edu/faculty/howell/howell.html Machen Sie es, wie Sie wollen, machen Sie es nur schön. (Do it as you like, just make it beautiful!) --Johannes Brahms ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: Woodblocks in orchestra
At 6/3/2012 12:38 PM, John Howell wrote: At 10:57 AM -0500 6/3/12, Robert Patterson wrote: A question came up at a rehearsal the other day. Does anyone know what piece has the first use of a woodblock in an orchestra? Whatever it was, it was probably in China a number of centuries ago! There were orchestras in the world long before the Western European string bands caught on. Does hitting the conductor on the head count? ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: Woodblocks in orchestra
Ah. But I am interested in particular where it first appears in the score of a western European orchestra. On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 11:38 AM, John Howell john.how...@vt.edu wrote: At 10:57 AM -0500 6/3/12, Robert Patterson wrote: A question came up at a rehearsal the other day. Does anyone know what piece has the first use of a woodblock in an orchestra? Whatever it was, it was probably in China a number of centuries ago! There were orchestras in the world long before the Western European string bands caught on. John -- John R. Howell, Assoc. Prof. of Music Virginia Tech Department of Music School of Performing Arts Cinema College of Liberal Arts Human Sciences 290 College Ave., Blacksburg, Virginia 24061-0240 Vox (540) 231-8411 Fax (540) 231-5034 (mailto:john.how...@vt.edu) http://www.music.vt.edu/faculty/howell/howell.html Machen Sie es, wie Sie wollen, machen Sie es nur schön. (Do it as you like, just make it beautiful!) --Johannes Brahms ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: Woodblocks in orchestra
Yes, I could tell. If you like I could post your question on the OrchestraList, where there are a number of professional symphony percussionists who post regularly. In fact I might just go ahead and ask anyway, in case anyone can come up with an answer. John At 1:03 PM -0500 6/3/12, Robert Patterson wrote: Ah. But I am interested in particular where it first appears in the score of a western European orchestra. On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 11:38 AM, John Howell john.how...@vt.edu wrote: At 10:57 AM -0500 6/3/12, Robert Patterson wrote: A question came up at a rehearsal the other day. Does anyone know what piece has the first use of a woodblock in an orchestra? Whatever it was, it was probably in China a number of centuries ago! There were orchestras in the world long before the Western European string bands caught on. John -- John R. Howell, Assoc. Prof. of Music Virginia Tech Department of Music School of Performing Arts Cinema College of Liberal Arts Human Sciences 290 College Ave., Blacksburg, Virginia 24061-0240 Vox (540) 231-8411 Fax (540) 231-5034 (mailto:john.how...@vt.edu) http://www.music.vt.edu/faculty/howell/howell.html Machen Sie es, wie Sie wollen, machen Sie es nur schön. (Do it as you like, just make it beautiful!) --Johannes Brahms ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale -- John R. Howell, Assoc. Prof. of Music Virginia Tech Department of Music School of Performing Arts Cinema College of Liberal Arts Human Sciences 290 College Ave., Blacksburg, Virginia 24061-0240 Vox (540) 231-8411 Fax (540) 231-5034 (mailto:john.how...@vt.edu) http://www.music.vt.edu/faculty/howell/howell.html Machen Sie es, wie Sie wollen, machen Sie es nur schön. (Do it as you like, just make it beautiful!) --Johannes Brahms ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale