Re: [Finale] Quarter-tone Playback
Hey-- I resemble that remark... On Aug 5, 2008, at 9:02 PM, Craig Parmerlee wrote: Set it to French Horn. They are usually a quarter tone flat. :) Leigh Daniels wrote: Hello All, I'm working on piece which has a cello one quarter-tone below a violin. Is there a way to get FinMac2008b to make the cello play a quarter- tone flat? I'm using the full GPO. **Leigh ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale --- avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 080722-1, 07/22/2008 Tested on: 8/4/2008 10:40:32 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2008 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Quarter-tone Playback
Set it to French Horn. They are usually a quarter tone flat. :) Leigh Daniels wrote: Hello All, I'm working on piece which has a cello one quarter-tone below a violin. Is there a way to get FinMac2008b to make the cello play a quarter-tone flat? I'm using the full GPO. **Leigh ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale --- avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 080722-1, 07/22/2008 Tested on: 8/4/2008 10:40:32 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2008 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Quarter-tone Playback
The pitchwheel range is NOT 0-127 or -64 to 63. (It wouldn't be very useful if it was.) The range is -8192 (down all the way) to 8191 (up all the way). GPO Notation instruments are supposed to transpose 12 semitones up when the pitchwheel is set to 8191, and 12 semitones down when the pitchwheel is set to -8192. (In earlier versions, some of the GPO full solo strings only transposed 2 semitones when the pitchwheel is set all the way up or down, but I believe that is fixed now.) So a quarter- tone transposition for GPO Notation instruments would be +/-341. Pitchwheel alterations last until cancelled (as I said in my followup post). Cheers, - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn, NY On 5 Aug 2008, at 7:11 AM, dhbailey wrote: Darcy James Argue wrote: Hi Leigh, Throw in a expression set to modify the pitchwheel. Assuming you are using the Notation instruments, the maximum pitchbend range (check the Finale documentation for the number) should result in a shift of 12 semitones up (+) or down (-) . So your expression should drop the pitchwheel by 1/24th of the maximum value. That was my first idea also, but I'm uncertain about how to suggest he define the pitch-bend value. Does the pitchwheel controller in GPO use the value range of 0-127 or is it like some on hardware synths where 0 equals no pitch bend up or down, so the range is -64 - 63? That would make a big difference in how to define the expression for playback. The other big question is whether or not that expression would have to be assigned to every note in the cello part, or whether setting it once would affect all the other pitches until it was reset. -- David H. Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Quarter-tone Playback
IIRC, pitch bend goes from -8192 to 8192 with 0 being normal. On Aug 5, 2008, at 6:11 AM, dhbailey wrote: Darcy James Argue wrote: Hi Leigh, Throw in a expression set to modify the pitchwheel. Assuming you are using the Notation instruments, the maximum pitchbend range (check the Finale documentation for the number) should result in a shift of 12 semitones up (+) or down (-) . So your expression should drop the pitchwheel by 1/24th of the maximum value. That was my first idea also, but I'm uncertain about how to suggest he define the pitch-bend value. Does the pitchwheel controller in GPO use the value range of 0-127 or is it like some on hardware synths where 0 equals no pitch bend up or down, so the range is -64 - 63? That would make a big difference in how to define the expression for playback. The other big question is whether or not that expression would have to be assigned to every note in the cello part, or whether setting it once would affect all the other pitches until it was reset. -- David H. Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale Allen Fisher Founder and Principle Developer Fisher Art and Technology [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Quarter-tone Playback
Darcy James Argue wrote: Hi Leigh, Throw in a expression set to modify the pitchwheel. Assuming you are using the Notation instruments, the maximum pitchbend range (check the Finale documentation for the number) should result in a shift of 12 semitones up (+) or down (-) . So your expression should drop the pitchwheel by 1/24th of the maximum value. That was my first idea also, but I'm uncertain about how to suggest he define the pitch-bend value. Does the pitchwheel controller in GPO use the value range of 0-127 or is it like some on hardware synths where 0 equals no pitch bend up or down, so the range is -64 - 63? That would make a big difference in how to define the expression for playback. The other big question is whether or not that expression would have to be assigned to every note in the cello part, or whether setting it once would affect all the other pitches until it was reset. -- David H. Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Quarter-tone Playback
Forgot to mention that you'll need a second expression to return pitchwheel to zero afterwards. - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn, NY On 5 Aug 2008, at 1:23 AM, Darcy James Argue wrote: Hi Leigh, Throw in a expression set to modify the pitchwheel. Assuming you are using the Notation instruments, the maximum pitchbend range (check the Finale documentation for the number) should result in a shift of 12 semitones up (+) or down (-) . So your expression should drop the pitchwheel by 1/24th of the maximum value. - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn, NY On 4 Aug 2008, at 9:38 PM, Leigh Daniels wrote: Hello All, I'm working on piece which has a cello one quarter-tone below a violin. Is there a way to get FinMac2008b to make the cello play a quarter- tone flat? I'm using the full GPO. **Leigh ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Quarter-tone Playback
Hi Leigh, Throw in a expression set to modify the pitchwheel. Assuming you are using the Notation instruments, the maximum pitchbend range (check the Finale documentation for the number) should result in a shift of 12 semitones up (+) or down (-) . So your expression should drop the pitchwheel by 1/24th of the maximum value. - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn, NY On 4 Aug 2008, at 9:38 PM, Leigh Daniels wrote: Hello All, I'm working on piece which has a cello one quarter-tone below a violin. Is there a way to get FinMac2008b to make the cello play a quarter- tone flat? I'm using the full GPO. **Leigh ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
