[Fink-beginners] fink update-all fails

[Robert]

After running fink selfupdate successfully, fink update-all fails with :

lues.c  -fno-common -DPIC -o values.lo
/bin/sh ../libtool --mode=compile gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I../src 
-I.. -no-cpp-precomp -I/sw/include -g -O0 weak-refs.c
gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I../src -I.. -no-cpp-precomp -I/sw/include 
-g -O0 weak-refs.c  -fno-common -DPIC -o weak-refs.lo
/bin/sh ../libtool --mode=compile gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I../src 
-I.. -no-cpp-precomp -I/sw/include -g -O0 unix_dl.c
gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I../src -I.. -no-cpp-precomp -I/sw/include 
-g -O0 unix_dl.c  -fno-common -DPIC -o unix_dl.lo
unix_dl.c: In function `rep_open_dl_library':
unix_dl.c:328: warning: assignment discards qualifiers from pointer 
target type
unix_dl.c: In function `rep_find_c_symbol':
unix_dl.c:466: error: `Dl_info' undeclared (first use in this function)
unix_dl.c:466: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
unix_dl.c:466: error: for each function it appears in.)
unix_dl.c:466: error: parse error before "info"
unix_dl.c:467: error: `info' undeclared (first use in this function)
make[1]: *** [unix_dl.lo] Error 1
make: *** [all] Error 1
### execution of  failed, exit code 2
Failed: compiling librep-0.16.2-11 failed
wbar14:~ robert$

Any ideas how to fix this. I am running Panther.
Thanks, Bob


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[Fink-beginners] OT: Amusement at the Worm

[Jim Meyer]

I'm probably a bad person to be amused while others are suffering, but
I'm finding it interesting to see how many list subscribers are using
mail clients which are vulnerable to this worm (aka Outlook) to read a
list for systems and software which inherently invulnerable to it (aka
Macintosh and Fink). 

Me, I'm just glad to be in Digest mode.

Cheers!

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[Fink-beginners] Problem installing package gimp

[Andrew L Wendelborn]

Hello!

In trying to install gimp I get the following before anything interesting
happens:

curl -f -L -O http://west.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/aa-project/aalib-1.4rc5.tar.gz
curl: (22) The requested file was not found
### execution of curl failed, exit code 22
Downloading the file "aalib-1.4rc5.tar.gz" failed.


and so on, for all mirrors.

I can install gtk+ with no problem, so wondering if there is a configuration
problem (I see that the directory "aa-project" is actually empty).


thanks
  Andrew


PS here is an extract from what I did:


[andrewsmac] andrew% fink install gimp
sudo /sw/bin/fink  install gimp
Information about 1122 packages read in 2 seconds.

fink needs help picking an alternative to satisfy a virtual dependency. The
candidates:

(1)  giflib: GIF image format handling library, LZW-enabled version
(2)  libungif: GIF image format handling library, LZW-free version

Pick one: [1] 
The following package will be installed or updated:
 gimp
The following 38 additional packages will be installed:
 aalib aalib-bin aalib-shlibs audiofile audiofile-bin audiofile-shlibs db3
 db3-shlibs docbook-dsssl-nwalsh docbook-dtd esound esound-bin esound-common
 esound-shlibs giflib giflib-bin giflib-shlibs gimp-shlibs gnome-libs
 gnome-libs-dev gnome-libs-shlibs gtk-doc imlib imlib-shlibs libmpeg
 libmpeg-shlibs netpbm netpbm-bin netpbm-shlibs netpbm10-shlibs openjade
 opensp3 opensp3-shlibs orbit orbit-dev orbit-shlibs passwd
 sgml-entities-iso8879
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] 
curl -f -L -O http://west.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/aa-project/aalib-1.4rc5.tar.gz
curl: (22) The requested file was not found
### execution of curl failed, exit code 22
Downloading the file "aalib-1.4rc5.tar.gz" failed.

(1)  Give up
(2)  Retry the same mirror
(3)  Retry another mirror

How do you want to proceed? [3] 3
curl -f -L -O http://unc.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/aa-project/aalib-1.4rc5.tar.gz
  % Total% Received % Xferd  Average Speed  Time Curr.
 Dload  Upload TotalCurrent  LeftSpeed
  0 00 00 0  0  0 --:--:--  0:00:03 --:--:-- 0curl: 
(22) The requested file was not found
### execution of curl failed, exit code 22
Downloading the file "aalib-1.4rc5.tar.gz" failed.

... and so on for each of the following

http://eu.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/aa-project/aalib-1.4rc5.tar.gz
http://cesnet.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/aa-project/aalib-1.4rc5.tar.gz
http://umn.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/aa-project/aalib-1.4rc5.tar.gz
http://easynews.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/aa-project/aalib-1.4rc5.tar.gz
http://telia.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/aa-project/aalib-1.4rc5.tar.gz
http://twtelecom.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/aa-project/aalib-1.4rc5.tar.gz
http://us.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/aa-project/aalib-1.4rc5.tar.gz
http://switch.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/aa-project/aalib-1.4rc5.tar.gz
http://belnet.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/aa-project/aalib-1.4rc5.tar.gz


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Re: Can we fix this? Re: [Fink-beginners] Blocked File Attachment

[Benjamin Reed]

Alexander K. Hansen wrote:

At the risk of beating a dead horse...

I tried today to report an ongoing dependency problem with gnome-panel 
(xml-parser-pm, if you're keeping score) but fink-gnome-core, the 
nominal maintainer, now only takes posts from subscribed people--and I 
don't feel like adding chatter that I'm only peripherally interested in, 
at best, to my mail load, so the problem may well not get fixed until 
enough people complain on -beginners and -users.
Yes, and I approved it.  This is only temporary.  You can stop beating 
now.  =)

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Re: [Fink-beginners] FAQ contents header

[Alexander K. Hansen]

Not really--the FAQ's structure is automatically generated via XML 
style sheets.  My best advice to you would be to try the "printer 
friendly" FAQ

http://fink.sourceforge.net/faq/faq.html

which has all of the text and can be searched via your browser's Find 
function.
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On Jan 27, 2004, at 12:56 PM, Jonathan Chetwynd wrote:

Please can the FAQ maintainer provide a list of contents with links?

The point being that the numbering system tells one nothing, and as a 
beginner it is hard to spot what is relevant.

thanks

Jonathan Chetwynd
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[Fink-beginners] FAQ contents header

[Jonathan Chetwynd]

Please can the FAQ maintainer provide a list of contents with links?

The point being that the numbering system tells one nothing, and as a 
beginner it is hard to spot what is relevant.

thanks

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Re: Can we fix this? Re: [Fink-beginners] Blocked File Attachment

[Alexander K. Hansen]

At the risk of beating a dead horse...

I tried today to report an ongoing dependency problem with gnome-panel 
(xml-parser-pm, if you're keeping score) but fink-gnome-core, the 
nominal maintainer, now only takes posts from subscribed people--and I 
don't feel like adding chatter that I'm only peripherally interested 
in, at best, to my mail load, so the problem may well not get fixed 
until enough people complain on -beginners and -users.

This is an instance when being exclusive is counterproductive--you 
don't want to close off your bug reporting channels.
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Re: Can we fix this? Re: [Fink-beginners] Blocked File Attachment

[Joshua S. Freeman]

well, I see your point, and, not to worry.. i've been on the net since 
my first Andrew account at Carnegie Mellon in 1987!

I see and subscribed to both kinds of lists, open lists like this one 
which allow anyone to ask a question and get a response and others which 
require subscription or have even more restrictive rules or 
moderation...

also- disclaimer... I used to work for VA-Linux (now VA Software which 
owns and maintains sourceforge)... 

I think we'll have more success containing the impact of this virus by 
restriciting posting to subscribers than we will getting VA to 'fix' 
their MTA (which i think is the thing that would have to be fixed to 
remedy the situation..)

Cheers,

J>

On Tue, 27 Jan 2004, Hisashi T Fujinaka wrote:

> No, I think it is you who don't understand. A lot of times people just
> have a single question, and they want to be able to ask the question and
> then get direct email replies to that question without subscribing to
> the list. I don't know how new you are to the idea of the internet, but
> this is how fink has worked, how netbsd works, etc.
> 
> If you want people to use your software, you make it as inclusive as
> possible. Then you fix your email servers to keep them from propogating
> all the trash that comes from all the poorly set-up windows machines on
> the internet.
> 
> On Tue, 27 Jan 2004, Joshua S. Freeman wrote:
> 
> > Hisahsi,
> >
> > you don't understand... all we're suggesting is that one must first
> > SUBSCRIBE to the list in order to send questions/queries to the list...
> >
> > hardly exclusionary.
> >
> > J.
> >
> > On
> > Tue, 27 Jan 2004, Hisashi T Fujinaka wrote:
> >
> > > On Tue, 27 Jan 2004, Phillip Pi wrote:
> > >
> > > > Block unsubscribed users.  I always thought unsubscribers can't post.
> > >
> > > This is ridiculous. We should allow anyone to ask questions. We don't
> > > want fink to be a members only club.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> 
> 

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Re: Can we fix this? Re: [Fink-beginners] Blocked File Attachment

[Hisashi T Fujinaka]

No, I think it is you who don't understand. A lot of times people just
have a single question, and they want to be able to ask the question and
then get direct email replies to that question without subscribing to
the list. I don't know how new you are to the idea of the internet, but
this is how fink has worked, how netbsd works, etc.

If you want people to use your software, you make it as inclusive as
possible. Then you fix your email servers to keep them from propogating
all the trash that comes from all the poorly set-up windows machines on
the internet.

On Tue, 27 Jan 2004, Joshua S. Freeman wrote:

> Hisahsi,
>
> you don't understand... all we're suggesting is that one must first
> SUBSCRIBE to the list in order to send questions/queries to the list...
>
> hardly exclusionary.
>
> J.
>
> On
> Tue, 27 Jan 2004, Hisashi T Fujinaka wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 27 Jan 2004, Phillip Pi wrote:
> >
> > > Block unsubscribed users.  I always thought unsubscribers can't post.
> >
> > This is ridiculous. We should allow anyone to ask questions. We don't
> > want fink to be a members only club.
> >
> >
>
>

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Re: Can we fix this? Re: [Fink-beginners] Blocked File Attachment

[Joshua S. Freeman]

Hisahsi,

you don't understand... all we're suggesting is that one must first 
SUBSCRIBE to the list in order to send questions/queries to the list... 

hardly exclusionary.

J.

On 
Tue, 27 Jan 2004, Hisashi T Fujinaka wrote:

> On Tue, 27 Jan 2004, Phillip Pi wrote:
> 
> > Block unsubscribed users.  I always thought unsubscribers can't post.
> 
> This is ridiculous. We should allow anyone to ask questions. We don't
> want fink to be a members only club.
> 
> 

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Re: Can we fix this? Re: [Fink-beginners] Blocked File Attachment

[Hisashi T Fujinaka]

On Tue, 27 Jan 2004, Phillip Pi wrote:

> Block unsubscribed users.  I always thought unsubscribers can't post.

This is ridiculous. We should allow anyone to ask questions. We don't
want fink to be a members only club.

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Re: [Fink-beginners] OT: Amusement at the Worm

[Eric Hoch]

Hi Jim, 
Am 27 Jan 2004 07:08:36 -0800, schrieb Jim Meyer:
> I'm probably a bad person to be amused while others are suffering, but
> I'm finding it interesting to see how many list subscribers are using
> mail clients which are vulnerable to this worm (aka Outlook) to read a
> list for systems and software which inherently invulnerable to it (aka
> Macintosh and Fink). 

At a first glance it may look funny and I may concern with you but 
at a second glance not since a not so small amount of helpers here 
on the list are tied to vulneerable Softwae during a couple of 
hours a day when they are at work. Not everyone enjoys a Mac at 
work and only because he or she has no Mac at work he or she should 
not help other users here on the list if he or she could? 

I mean sometimes even I can help Windows users when it is windows 
only specific problem with OpenOffice.org and I use Windows only 
once or twice a month since I have my own flat. 

And who is allowed to install Mozilla and Mozilla Mail on his 
computer at work or have it? Not that many.  

Second when you read the CERT and other Warnings from Anti-Virus 
Companies etc you find that this worms spreads via P2P Networks too 
and guess what there are Macusers who run this kind of software. 
Their commputers may not be infected but they help distributing the 
virus too.

Third you won't know on how much spam adress-lists you are standing 
and if only one of this spammers gets the virus on his machine... 

Regards, 
Eric Hoch

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Re: Can we fix this? Re: [Fink-beginners] Blocked File Attachment

[Phillip Pi]

Block unsubscribed users.  I always thought unsubscribers can't post.
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On Tue, 27 Jan 2004, Benjamin Reed wrote:

> Phillip Pi wrote:
> 
> > Is the administrator fixing this due to the new worm?
> 
> The "administrator" is SourceForge, the only other option is to not 
> allow posts from unsubscribed users, which up to now we've avoided on 
> the beginners list.
> 
> What do you think, guys, should we change it?
> 



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[Fink-beginners] OT: Amusement at the Worm

[Jim Meyer]

I'm probably a bad person to be amused while others are suffering, but
I'm finding it interesting to see how many list subscribers are using
mail clients which are vulnerable to this worm (aka Outlook) to read a
list for systems and software which inherently invulnerable to it (aka
Macintosh and Fink). 

Me, I'm just glad to be in Digest mode.

Cheers!

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Re: [Fink-beginners] 10.3 binary packages

[Alexander K. Hansen]

It's in the FAQ:

http://fink.sourceforge.net/faq/usage-general.php#no-display
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On Jan 27, 2004, at 9:27 AM, Jonathan Chetwynd wrote:

well I'm not sure how easy it would be to find the error 
independently, but thanks Eric!
gimp is now installed, but when I tried to run it:
E: Couldn't find package libgtk

so installed gtk+ and its dependencies, but now when I try to run gimp
Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
what do I do next?

thanks

Jonathan



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Re: [Fink-beginners] 10.3 binary packages

[Jonathan Chetwynd]

well I'm not sure how easy it would be to find the error independently, 
but thanks Eric!
gimp is now installed, but when I tried to run it:
E: Couldn't find package libgtk

so installed gtk+ and its dependencies, but now when I try to run gimp
Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
what do I do next?

thanks

Jonathan

Selecting previously deselected package gimp.
Unpacking gimp (from .../gimp_1.2.5-1_darwin-powerpc.deb) ...
Setting up xfree86-shlibs (4.3.99.16-2) ...
Setting up xfree86 (4.3.99.16-2) ...

Setting up aalib-shlibs (1.4rc5-22) ...

Setting up aalib-bin (1.4rc5-22) ...
* AA-lib: (aalib). An ASCII-art graphics library
install-info(/sw/share/info/aalib.info): creating new section 
`Libraries'

Setting up aalib (1.4rc5-22) ...
Setting up libpng3-shlibs (1.2.5-4) ...
Setting up libjpeg-shlibs (6b-6) ...
Setting up libtiff-shlibs (3.5.7-7) ...
Setting up libmpeg-shlibs (1.3.1-6) ...
Setting up gimp-shlibs (1.2.5-1) ...
Setting up gimp (1.2.5-1) ...
Jonathan-Chetwynds-Computer:/sw/bin jay$ gimp
dyld: /sw/bin/gimp-real can't open library: /sw/lib/libgtk-1.2.0.dylib  
(No such file or directory, errno = 2)
Trace/BPT trap
Jonathan-Chetwynds-Computer:/sw/bin jay$ sudo apt-get install libgtk
Password:
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
E: Couldn't find package libgtk
Jonathan-Chetwynds-Computer:/sw/bin jay$



The following NEW packages will be installed:
  glib glib-shlibs gtk+ gtk+-data gtk+-shlibs
0 packages upgraded, 5 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0  not upgraded.
Need to get 4410kB of archives. After unpacking 0B will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] y
Get:1 http://us.dl.sourceforge.net 10.3/current/main glib-shlibs 
1.2.10-18 [163kB]
Get:2 http://us.dl.sourceforge.net 10.3/current/main glib 1.2.10-18 
[49.4kB]
Get:3 http://us.dl.sourceforge.net 10.3/current/main gtk+-data 
1.2.10-20 [68.5kB]
Get:4 http://us.dl.sourceforge.net 10.3/current/main gtk+-shlibs 
1.2.10-20 [1577kB]
Get:5 http://us.dl.sourceforge.net 10.3/current/main gtk+ 1.2.10-20 
[2552kB]
Fetched 4410kB in 1m32s (47.9kB/s)
(Reading database ... 15061 files and directories currently installed.)
Unpacking glib-shlibs (from 
.../glib-shlibs_1.2.10-18_darwin-powerpc.deb) ...
Unpacking glib (from .../glib_1.2.10-18_darwin-powerpc.deb) ...
Unpacking gtk+-data (from .../gtk+-data_1.2.10-20_darwin-powerpc.deb) 
...
Unpacking gtk+-shlibs (from 
.../gtk+-shlibs_1.2.10-20_darwin-powerpc.deb) ...
Unpacking gtk+ (from .../gtk+_1.2.10-20_darwin-powerpc.deb) ...
Setting up glib-shlibs (1.2.10-18) ...

Setting up glib (1.2.10-18) ...
* GLIB: (glib). Useful routines for 'C' programming
install-info(/sw/share/info/glib.info): creating new section `Library 
of useful routines for 'C' programing'

Setting up gtk+-data (1.2.10-20) ...
Setting up gtk+-shlibs (1.2.10-20) ...
Setting up gtk+ (1.2.10-20) ...
* GDK: (gdk). The General Drawing Kit
install-info(/sw/share/info/gdk.info): creating new section `User 
Interface Toolkit'
* GTK: (gtk). The GIMP Toolkit

Do you want to erase any previously downloaded .deb files? [Y/n] y
Press enter to continue.
running dpkg --pending --configure ...
running dpkg --pending --remove ...
Jonathan-Chetwynds-Computer:/sw/bin jay$ gimp
Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
Jonathan-Chetwynds-Computer:/sw/bin jay$
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[Ari A. Lamstein]

Normally "digest" means that you get all the messages for the day in one
email.  But for the Fink digest I get like a half-dozen "digests" a day?
Does anyone know why this is?


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Re: [Fink-beginners] Why are non-subscribers allowed to post?

[Alexander K. Hansen]

One option that people might consider is to subscribe, but turn off 
receiving emails.  Since the standard practice seems to be to reply to 
both the list and the individual poster, this means that such a person 
can post and also get help with their individual problem, while still 
having the information go to the list.
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On Jan 27, 2004, at 8:11 AM, Benjamin Reed wrote:

Bo Parker wrote:

Why are non-subscribers allowed to post to fink-beginners? It seems 
crazy to me - it lets in these Windows worms/viruses in addition to 
the spam and the Nigerian scams.
I run a medium-sized (1700 subscribers) guitar-oriented LISTSERV 
mailing list, and non-subscribers are not allowed to post, and also 
we reject all messages with attachments, including HTML email.
Guess what? Our mailing list *never* distributes worms/viruses or 
spam.
Something to think about.
I'm changing it right now.  Up until now we had it so that 
non-subscribers can post because many of our users wouldn't want to 
sign up for a mailing list to get help with just one issue.  In the 
case of the fink-devel list, it would mean you have to subscribe 
before you can give feedback on some fink packages.  :(

But for now, this is insane, I'm going to turn off non-subscriber 
posts until we can find out why sourceforge isn't virus-scanning this 
crap in the first place.

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Re: [Fink-beginners] 10.3 binary packages

[Alexander Hansen]

You need to update your package list, e.g. with "sudo apt-get update".
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On Jan 27, 2004, at 2:17 AM, Jonathan Chetwynd wrote:

I successfully installed fink.

but when I run apt-get the only packages available are the few that I 
installed already including apt.

how do I install the binary packages such as gimp?

thanks

Jonathan Chetwynd
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Re: [Fink-beginners] Why are non-subscribers allowed to post?

[Bo Parker]

Benjamin Reed said:


>But for now, this is insane, I'm going to turn off non-subscriber posts until 
>we can find out why sourceforge isn't virus-scanning this crap in the first 
>place.


Thanks!

BTW, sourceforge appears to be virus- and spam-scanning the stuff on the way 
in - it's just not rejecting the viruses and spams. Instead it seems that it's 
letting the viruses and spams through to the list with a diagnostic/warning 
"THIS MIGHT BE SPAM" or "THIS MIGHT BE A VIRUS".

Clearly a sub-optimal solution ;)



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Fwd: Can we fix this? Re: [Fink-beginners] Blocked File Attachment

[Steffen Lund Hokland]

The "administrator" is SourceForge, the only other option is to not 
allow posts from unsubscribed users, which up to now we've avoided on 
the beginners list.

What do you think, guys, should we change it?
Yes! I recently left the OpenDarwin list because of the spam-extent on 
that list. It doesn't seem as an unreasonable request that people (like 
Yours truely) who want to enjoy the extensive service offered on the 
list, take the time to register.

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Re: [Fink-beginners] Why are non-subscribers allowed to post?

[Benjamin Reed]

Bo Parker wrote:

Why are non-subscribers allowed to post to fink-beginners? It seems crazy to 
me - it lets in these Windows worms/viruses in addition to the spam and the 
Nigerian scams.

I run a medium-sized (1700 subscribers) guitar-oriented LISTSERV mailing list, 
and non-subscribers are not allowed to post, and also we reject all messages 
with attachments, including HTML email.

Guess what? Our mailing list *never* distributes worms/viruses or spam.

Something to think about.

I'm changing it right now.  Up until now we had it so that 
non-subscribers can post because many of our users wouldn't want to sign 
up for a mailing list to get help with just one issue.  In the case of 
the fink-devel list, it would mean you have to subscribe before you can 
give feedback on some fink packages.  :(

But for now, this is insane, I'm going to turn off non-subscriber posts 
until we can find out why sourceforge isn't virus-scanning this crap in 
the first place.

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Re: Can we fix this? Re: [Fink-beginners] Blocked File Attachment

[Benjamin Reed]

Phillip Pi wrote:

Is the administrator fixing this due to the new worm?
The "administrator" is SourceForge, the only other option is to not 
allow posts from unsubscribed users, which up to now we've avoided on 
the beginners list.

What do you think, guys, should we change it?

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[Fink-beginners] Re: Why are non-subscribers allowed to post?

[Bo Parker]

Yuri Banens said:


>Agreed.
>
>Are all sf.net lists run this way too? Just curious.



H... I'm not sure. This is the only one I subscribe to.



-Bo Parker





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Fwd: [Fink-beginners] Why are non-subscribers allowed to post?

[Steffen Lund Hokland]

I agree - I haven't seen any of this on the OSX-TeX list

Steffen

On 27/1-2004, at 13.37, Bo Parker wrote:



Why are non-subscribers allowed to post to fink-beginners? It seems 
crazy to
me - it lets in these Windows worms/viruses in addition to the spam 
and the
Nigerian scams.

I run a medium-sized (1700 subscribers) guitar-oriented LISTSERV 
mailing list,
and non-subscribers are not allowed to post, and also we reject all 
messages
with attachments, including HTML email.

Guess what? Our mailing list *never* distributes worms/viruses or spam.

Something to think about.

-Bo "FLATPICK-L co-founder and listowner" Parker





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Re: [Fink-beginners] Why are non-subscribers allowed to post?

[Yuri Banens]

Agreed.

Are all sf.net lists run this way too? Just curious.

Yuri

On 27/01/2004, at 10:37 PM, Bo Parker wrote:



Why are non-subscribers allowed to post to fink-beginners? It seems 
crazy to
me - it lets in these Windows worms/viruses in addition to the spam 
and the
Nigerian scams.

I run a medium-sized (1700 subscribers) guitar-oriented LISTSERV 
mailing list,
and non-subscribers are not allowed to post, and also we reject all 
messages
with attachments, including HTML email.

Guess what? Our mailing list *never* distributes worms/viruses or spam.

Something to think about.

-Bo "FLATPICK-L co-founder and listowner" Parker





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[Fink-beginners] Why are non-subscribers allowed to post?

[Bo Parker]

Why are non-subscribers allowed to post to fink-beginners? It seems crazy to 
me - it lets in these Windows worms/viruses in addition to the spam and the 
Nigerian scams.

I run a medium-sized (1700 subscribers) guitar-oriented LISTSERV mailing list, 
and non-subscribers are not allowed to post, and also we reject all messages 
with attachments, including HTML email.

Guess what? Our mailing list *never* distributes worms/viruses or spam.

Something to think about.


-Bo "FLATPICK-L co-founder and listowner" Parker






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Re: [Fink-beginners] 10.3 binary packages

[Eric Hoch]

Hi Jonathan, 
Am Tue, 27 Jan 2004 07:17:47 +, schrieb Jonathan Chetwynd:
> I successfully installed fink.
> 
> but when I run apt-get the only packages available are the few 
> that I installed already including apt.
> 
> how do I install the binary packages such as gimp?

First take a look in the faq 
 
Second do what the faq tells you
Third run again a 'sudo apt-get update' and see what happens, 
(Fourth if you still get an error try 'sudo 
/sw/var/lib/fink/prebound/update-package-prebinding.pl -f' in the 
terminal and repeat step three)
Fourth type 'sudo apt-get install gimp'. This should download gimp 
and all its needed depencies as binaries. If this fail post the 
error here on this list or try installing gimp from source by 
typing 'fink install gimp'. Again gimp and it's depencies are shown 
to you, confirm this information and wait a few hours or so - 
depending on how fast your Mac is. If errors occure during build 
process post them here.

HTH 

Regards, 
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[Fink-beginners] HELLO

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[Fink-beginners] 10.3 binary packages

[Jonathan Chetwynd]

I successfully installed fink.

but when I run apt-get the only packages available are the few that I 
installed already including apt.

how do I install the binary packages such as gimp?

thanks

Jonathan Chetwynd
http://www.peepo.co.uk
"It's easy to use"
Jonathan-Chetwynds-Computer:/sw/bin jay$ sudo dselect
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
12 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0  not 
upgraded.
Need to get 7503kB of archives. After unpacking 0B will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] y
Get:1 http://us.dl.sourceforge.net 10.3/current/main base-files 1.9.0-1 
[10.1kB]
Get:2 http://us.dl.sourceforge.net 10.3/current/main tar 1.13.25-12 
[499kB]
Get:3 http://us.dl.sourceforge.net 10.3/current/main ncurses-dev 
5.3-20031018-2 [827kB]
Get:4 http://us.dl.sourceforge.net 10.3/current/main ncurses-shlibs 
5.3-20031018-2 [155kB]
Get:5 http://us.dl.sourceforge.net 10.3/current/main ncurses 
5.3-20031018-2 [739kB]
Get:6 http://us.dl.sourceforge.net 10.3/current/main dpkg 1.10.9-27 
[1419kB]
Get:7 http://us.dl.sourceforge.net 10.3/current/main fink 0.17.4-1 
[199kB]
Get:8 http://us.dl.sourceforge.net 10.3/current/main cctools-extra 
1:495-1 [544kB]
Get:9 http://us.dl.sourceforge.net 10.3/current/main fink-prebinding 
0.7-2 [7570B]
Get:10 http://us.dl.sourceforge.net 10.3/current/main unzip 5.50-14 
[159kB]
Get:11 http://us.dl.sourceforge.net 10.3/current/main apt-shlibs 
0.5.4-36 [603kB]
Get:12 http://us.dl.sourceforge.net 10.3/current/main apt 0.5.4-36 
[2342kB]
Fetched 7503kB in 5m27s (22.9kB/s)
(Reading database ... 3927 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to replace base-files 1.8.0-1 (using 
.../base-files_1.9.0-1_darwin-powerpc.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement base-files ...
Setting up base-files (1.9.0-1) ...

(Reading database ... 3927 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to replace tar 1.13.25-1 (using 
.../tar_1.13.25-12_darwin-powerpc.deb) ...
install-info(tar.info): deleting entry `* Tar: (tar) ...'
install-info(tar.info): deleting empty section `GNU Packages'
Unpacking replacement tar ...
Setting up tar (1.13.25-12) ...
* Tar: (tar). Making tape (or disk) archives.
install-info(/sw/share/info/tar.info): creating new section `GNU 
Packages'

(Reading database ... 3926 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to replace ncurses-dev 5.3-12 (using 
.../ncurses-dev_5.3-20031018-2_darwin-powerpc.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement ncurses-dev ...
Preparing to replace ncurses-shlibs 5.3-12 (using 
.../ncurses-shlibs_5.3-20031018-2_darwin-powerpc.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement ncurses-shlibs ...
Setting up ncurses-shlibs (5.3-20031018-2) ...

(Reading database ... 3907 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to replace ncurses 5.3-12 (using 
.../ncurses_5.3-20031018-2_darwin-powerpc.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement ncurses ...
Setting up ncurses (5.3-20031018-2) ...

(Reading database ... 3936 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to replace dpkg 1.10.9-17 (using 
.../dpkg_1.10.9-27_darwin-powerpc.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement dpkg ...
Setting up dpkg (1.10.9-27) ...

(Reading database ... 3937 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to replace fink 0.16.2-1 (using 
.../fink_0.17.4-1_darwin-powerpc.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement fink ...
Setting up fink (0.17.4-1) ...
Checking system... powerpc-apple-darwin7.2.0
This system is supported and tested.
ln -s 10.3 /sw/fink/dists
Reading package info...
Updating package index... done.

(Reading database ... 3923 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to replace cctools-extra 20030516-2 (using 
.../cctools-extra_1%3a495-1_darwin-powerpc.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement cctools-extra ...
Setting up cctools-extra (495-1) ...

(Reading database ... 3924 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to replace fink-prebinding 0.4-1 (using 
.../fink-prebinding_0.7-2_darwin-powerpc.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement fink-prebinding ...
Setting up fink-prebinding (0.7-2) ...
(Reading database ... 3923 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to replace unzip 5.50-3 (using 
.../unzip_5.50-14_darwin-powerpc.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement unzip ...
Setting up unzip (5.50-14) ...

(Reading database ... 3923 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to replace apt-shlibs 0.5.4-25 (using 
.../apt-shlibs_0.5.4-36_darwin-powerpc.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement apt-shlibs ...
Setting up apt-shlibs (0.5.4-36) ...

(Reading database ... 3923 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to replace apt 0.5.4-25 (using 
.../apt_0.5.4-36_darwin-powerpc.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement apt ...
Setting up apt (0.5.4-36) ...

Setting up ncurses-dev (5.3-20031018-2) ...
Do you want to erase any previously downloaded .deb files? [Y/n] y
Press enter to continue.
running dpkg --pending --remove ...
Jonathan-Chetwynds-Computer:/sw/bin jay$ sudo apt-get update
Password:
Sorry, try again.
Password:
Err file: local/mai

[Fink-beginners] Current state of the list

[Steffen Lund Hokland]

Hi all,

It seems that an increasing ammount of spam/virae has found its way to 
the list. Is there anything we can do about this?

Regards,
Steffen


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