[Fink-devel] X11 Documentation

2003-02-14 Thread Alexander Hansen
I've slowly started making some changes in the X11 docs.  As of right
now all that I've changed is the current stable version to install from
fink, and added Apple X11 Beta 2 info.  

The next issue, then, is section 3.3:  Official Binaries.  

I'd like to confirm that the proper sequence for Jaguar as of right now
is:

1)  Install the 4.2.0 XFree86.org binary
2)  Apply the 4.2.0-4.2.0.1 patch from XonX
3)  Apply the 4.2.0.1-4.2.1.1 patch from XonX

Please let me know if I'm missing something:  I'd really hate to make a
change and have to retract it later.
-- 
Alexander K. Hansen
Associate Research Scientist, Columbia University
visiting MIT Plasma Science and Fusion Center
Levitated Dipole Experiment
175 Albany Street, NW17-219
Cambridge, MA  02139-4213


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Re: [Fink-devel] X11 Documentation

2003-02-14 Thread Alexander Hansen
Thanks, Torrey.  

I had debated whether just to wait for 4.3 to come out, but I figured
that it wouldn't take too much time to make the changes for right now,
and the fact that listed versions were out of sync with what one was
supposed to have for 10.2 just didn't sit right with me.

On Fri, 2003-02-14 at 13:18, Torrey Lyons wrote:
 At 9:20 AM -0500 2/14/03, Alexander Hansen wrote:
 I've slowly started making some changes in the X11 docs.  As of right
 now all that I've changed is the current stable version to install from
 fink, and added Apple X11 Beta 2 info. 
 
 The next issue, then, is section 3.3:  Official Binaries. 
 
 I'd like to confirm that the proper sequence for Jaguar as of right now
 is:
 
 1)  Install the 4.2.0 XFree86.org binary
 
 The easiest thing is to install the Xinstall_10.1.sit binary from 
 XonX, although the XFree86.org tarballs are identical. The 
 XFree86.org tarballs are just harder to deal with since they require 
 downloading separately and running a shell script.
 
 2)  Apply the 4.2.0-4.2.0.1 patch from XonX
 3)  Apply the 4.2.0.1-4.2.1.1 patch from XonX
 
 This is correct as of today. Very shortly this will change to just 
 installing XFree86 4.3.0 which will be available from XonX and 
 XFree86.Org as before.
 
 --Torrey
 
 
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Re: [Fink-devel] On dependency engines

2003-02-14 Thread Carsten Klapp
On Thursday, January 30, 2003, at 07:01  pm, Max Horn wrote:


So, for now, instead of charging ahead and trying to write a new 
dependency engine from scratch or trying to retrofit an existing one, 
I went to try to write down what our needs are. Then based on this, I 
started to develop ideas on how to realize these needs in actual code. 
I try to present all my ideas and findings in this email. That 
includes a list of problematic cases the engine needs to handle, as 
well as fundamental problems, and problems that are also affecting our 
current system. It'll be a long email, and maybe I should put it on a 
web page later, too.
snip

Why dependency deciding is difficult


Life would be easy if a dependency would just say install foo, and 
there was exactly one foo. However, foo may exist in 5

A feature that would be nice to have which Fink currently does not 
handle dynamically, when deciding on package dependencies the engine 
would also consider whether to download/install any binary debs when 
available, and compile the rest which are not available in deb archives.

I'll also explain the chroot/fakeroot approach for package building 
and how it would help us in many many ways (at the cost of more 
time/disk space, though).

This is an obvious question, but does a fakeroot jail mean duplicating 
files of any required dependencies into a sandbox(jail) during the 
build phase? So, wouldn't hard links eliminate any additional 
disk-space penalty?

Carsten



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[Fink-devel] I want Gimp in English!

2003-02-14 Thread Ludwin
My Computer speaks french, and the Gimp software I have just 
downloaded speaks mainly English. However, there is french as well. I 
imagine fink can somehow detect that my ibook is in French, so that Gimp 
shows some cammands in French. But this produces uncertainty: the 
documentation is in English, and this language mix is confusiong. Is 
there a way to instruct Gimp to use only English, despite the main 
languge on my ebook is French?



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