Re: [Fink-devel] rsync vs. cvs

2003-10-02 Thread Peter O'Gorman
David R. Morrison wrote:
The simplest thing to do is to simply add this as an alternative method.
But we were just discussing on #fink a more drastic change: we could
scrap anonymous cvs access altogether, and offer only two access methods,
rsync or ext cvs (the latter for fink developers only).
Any opinions about this?  Rob's patch will allow users to configure their
rsync server, so several servers could be set up eventually.
Hi,
I'd suggest that for the first (couple?) of releases of fink with Rob's 
patch, the selfupdate-cvs command continue to work as is, but with a 
this command has been deprecated, use selfupdate-rsync warning.

Now, to throw in another suggestion, I think that the selfupdate-cvs 
command could be removed altogether. Developers are mode than capable of 
pulling the tree using cvs, adding packages to it, and testing them in 
their fink environment before committing. It would be less convenient, 
but it would ensure that we are using the same tools as users, and we 
would likely react more quickly to problems if they affect us too :-p

Peter



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[Fink-devel] Circular dependencies with xfree86?

2003-10-02 Thread Pascal Bourguignon
Ok, I used yes '' | fink install ..., and now it installed  
system-xfree86 instead of xfree86-base and xfree86-rootless I wanted...

So I'm trying to install xfree86-base to overwrite system-xfree86.  I  
cannot remove system-xfree86 because there is a lot of package  
depending on it:

su-2.05a# fink remove system-xfree86
Information about 1314 packages read in 1 seconds.
dpkg --remove system-xfree86
dpkg: dependency problems prevent removal of system-xfree86:
 graphviz depends on x11; however:
  Package x11 is not installed.
  Package system-xfree86 which provides x11 is to be removed.
 xmountains depends on x11; however:
  Package x11 is not installed.
  Package system-xfree86 which provides x11 is to be removed.

So:
su-2.05a# fink install xfree86-base
Information about 1314 packages read in 1 seconds.
The following package will be installed or updated:
 xfree86-base
dpkg -i  
/sw/fink/dists/stable/main/binary-darwin-powerpc/x11-system/xfree86- 
base_4.2.1.1-3_darwin-powerpc.deb
dpkg: considering removing system-xfree86 in favour of xfree86-base ...
dpkg: may have trouble removing system-xfree86, as it provides libgl ...
dpkg: no, cannot remove system-xfree86 (--auto-deconfigure will help):
 xmms-bin depends on libgl
  xfree86-rootless provides libgl but is unpacked but not configured.
  system-xfree86 provides libgl but is to be removed.
dpkg: regarding .../xfree86-base_4.2.1.1-3_darwin-powerpc.deb  
containing xfree86-base:
 xfree86-base conflicts with x11
  system-xfree86 provides x11 and is installed.
dpkg: error processing  
/sw/fink/dists/stable/main/binary-darwin-powerpc/x11-system/xfree86- 
base_4.2.1.1-3_darwin-powerpc.deb (--install):
 conflicting packages - not installing xfree86-base
Errors were encountered while processing:
  
/sw/fink/dists/stable/main/binary-darwin-powerpc/x11-system/xfree86- 
base_4.2.1.1-3_darwin-powerpc.deb
### execution of dpkg failed, exit code 1
Failed: can't install package xfree86-base-4.2.1.1-3

So, xfree86-base cannot replace system-xfree86 because it lacks libgl,  
but xfree86-rootless would provide libgl. Here we go:

su-2.05a# fink install xfree86-base xfree86-rootless
Information about 1314 packages read in 1 seconds.
The following 2 packages will be installed or updated:
 xfree86-base xfree86-rootless
dpkg -i  
/sw/fink/dists/stable/main/binary-darwin-powerpc/x11-system/xfree86- 
rootless_4.2.1.1-3_darwin-powerpc.deb  
/sw/fink/dists/stable/main/binary-darwin-powerpc/x11-system/xfree86- 
base_4.2.1.1-3_darwin-powerpc.deb
(Reading database ... 86101 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to replace xfree86-rootless 4.2.1.1-3 (using  
.../xfree86-rootless_4.2.1.1-3_darwin-powerpc.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement xfree86-rootless ...
dpkg: considering removing system-xfree86 in favour of xfree86-base ...
dpkg: may have trouble removing system-xfree86, as it provides libgl ...
dpkg: no, cannot remove system-xfree86 (--auto-deconfigure will help):
 xmms-bin depends on libgl
  xfree86-rootless provides libgl but is unpacked but not configured.
  system-xfree86 provides libgl but is to be removed.
dpkg: regarding .../xfree86-base_4.2.1.1-3_darwin-powerpc.deb  
containing xfree86-base:
 xfree86-base conflicts with x11
  system-xfree86 provides x11 and is installed.
dpkg: error processing  
/sw/fink/dists/stable/main/binary-darwin-powerpc/x11-system/xfree86- 
base_4.2.1.1-3_darwin-powerpc.deb (--install):
 conflicting packages - not installing xfree86-base
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of xfree86-rootless:
 xfree86-rootless depends on xfree86-base (= 4.2.1.1-3); however:
  Package xfree86-base is not installed.
dpkg: error processing xfree86-rootless (--install):
 dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
Errors were encountered while processing:
  
/sw/fink/dists/stable/main/binary-darwin-powerpc/x11-system/xfree86- 
base_4.2.1.1-3_darwin-powerpc.deb
 xfree86-rootless
### execution of dpkg failed, exit code 1
Failed: can't batch-install packages:  
/sw/fink/dists/stable/main/binary-darwin-powerpc/x11-system/xfree86- 
rootless_4.2.1.1-3_darwin-powerpc.deb  
/sw/fink/dists/stable/main/binary-darwin-powerpc/x11-system/xfree86- 
base_4.2.1.1-3_darwin-powerpc.deb

So, to be able to install xfree86-base, I would need to install  
xfree86-rootless, but to be able to install xfree86-rootless, I would  
need to have xfree86-base first.

Why isn't there a '--force' or a '--nodeps'  option to fink, like there  
is in rpm?

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Re: [Fink-devel] Circular dependencies with xfree86?

2003-10-02 Thread Alexander K. Hansen


On Thursday, October 2, 2003, at 11:21 AM, Pascal Bourguignon wrote:

snip

So, xfree86-base cannot replace system-xfree86 because it lacks libgl,  
but xfree86-rootless would provide libgl. Here we go:

su-2.05a# fink install xfree86-base xfree86-rootless
Information about 1314 packages read in 1 seconds.
The following 2 packages will be installed or updated:
 xfree86-base xfree86-rootless
dpkg -i  
/sw/fink/dists/stable/main/binary-darwin-powerpc/x11-system/xfree86- 
rootless_4.2.1.1-3_darwin-powerpc.deb  
/sw/fink/dists/stable/main/binary-darwin-powerpc/x11-system/xfree86- 
base_4.2.1.1-3_darwin-powerpc.deb
(Reading database ... 86101 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to replace xfree86-rootless 4.2.1.1-3 (using  
.../xfree86-rootless_4.2.1.1-3_darwin-powerpc.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement xfree86-rootless ...
dpkg: considering removing system-xfree86 in favour of xfree86-base ...
dpkg: may have trouble removing system-xfree86, as it provides libgl  
...
dpkg: no, cannot remove system-xfree86 (--auto-deconfigure will help):
 xmms-bin depends on libgl
  xfree86-rootless provides libgl but is unpacked but not configured.
  system-xfree86 provides libgl but is to be removed.
dpkg: regarding .../xfree86-base_4.2.1.1-3_darwin-powerpc.deb  
containing xfree86-base:
 xfree86-base conflicts with x11
  system-xfree86 provides x11 and is installed.
dpkg: error processing  
/sw/fink/dists/stable/main/binary-darwin-powerpc/x11-system/xfree86- 
base_4.2.1.1-3_darwin-powerpc.deb (--install):
 conflicting packages - not installing xfree86-base
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of xfree86-rootless:
 xfree86-rootless depends on xfree86-base (= 4.2.1.1-3); however:
  Package xfree86-base is not installed.
dpkg: error processing xfree86-rootless (--install):
 dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
Errors were encountered while processing:
  
/sw/fink/dists/stable/main/binary-darwin-powerpc/x11-system/xfree86- 
base_4.2.1.1-3_darwin-powerpc.deb
 xfree86-rootless
### execution of dpkg failed, exit code 1
Failed: can't batch-install packages:  
/sw/fink/dists/stable/main/binary-darwin-powerpc/x11-system/xfree86- 
rootless_4.2.1.1-3_darwin-powerpc.deb  
/sw/fink/dists/stable/main/binary-darwin-powerpc/x11-system/xfree86- 
base_4.2.1.1-3_darwin-powerpc.deb

So, to be able to install xfree86-base, I would need to install  
xfree86-rootless, but to be able to install xfree86-rootless, I would  
need to have xfree86-base first.

Why isn't there a '--force' or a '--nodeps'  option to fink, like  
there is in rpm?

dpkg does have a --force option.  Check out  
http://fink.sourceforge.net/faq/comp-packages.php#cant-install-xfree

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Re: [Fink-devel] gcc3.3 tree open for business

2003-10-02 Thread Christian Schaffner
Hi Dave

On Mittwoch, Oktober 1, 2003, at 07:19  Uhr, David R. Morrison wrote:
All fink developers are now invited to help out with the 10.2-gcc3.3 
trees.
Here's how:  In fink 0.13.8 which was released yesterday, GCC 3.1 is 
being
enforced for the first time.  To use the revised developer tools and 
gcc 3.3,
(as well as the new trees), you should install fink-0.13.9-beta.  To 
install
this, download the source file from the sourceforge release page
  http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=17203
unpack the tarball, and run ./inject.pl from within the 
fink-0.13.9-beta
directory.  (Also, be sure that you have up-to-date developer tools.)
I did as you said. But after the inject dist still points to 10.2:

dists - 10.2/

Am i supposed to change that manually? From your description i had the 
impression that fink-0.13.9.cvs should do that automatically.

Thanks for your help,
Chris.


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Re: [Fink-devel] fort77 can't be compiled.

2003-10-02 Thread Pascal J . Bourguignon

Jeff Whitaker writes:
 On Tue, 30 Sep 2003, Pascal J.Bourguignon wrote:
  
   Pascal:  If you installed the gcc3.3 update, sudo /usr/sbin/gcc_select
   3.1 and rebuild f2c and fort77.  If you haven't installed gcc 3.3, I have
   no idea what's wrong.
 
  Ok, so some fink packages need 3.3, other need 3.1 (or is it 2.95.2?).
  Perhaps it would be possible for fink to select the right compiler for
  each package?
 
 3.3 is not officially supported in fink yet, there will be a 10.2-gcc3.3
 distribution shortly however.  Some packages need 2.95, but that is
 handled automatically by the package. There are no packages in fink now
 that need 3.3.  The clisp package works with 3.1.

Definitely not.  That's the only reason  why I upgraded to  3.3, to be
able to compile clisp 2.29 from fink.


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Re: [Fink-devel] Fink vs. Panther (apt failure)

2003-10-02 Thread Chris Pepper
At 9:55 AM -0400 2003/09/30, Benjamin Reed wrote:
Chris Pepper wrote:

I'm running 7b68 on a dual G4, and bootstrap.sh fails to build 
apt; is a fix or workaround available?
I assume you mean the 0.5.3 bootstrap from the tarball?  That 
definitely won't work...

I checked the archives, but didn't find anything helpful.
Panther is not officially supported.
	I know.

If you want to be able to limp along until we have it officially 
supported, you can bootstrap fink from CVS.  See Updating the 
Package Manager at:

  http://fink.sourceforge.net/doc/cvsaccess/index.php

Not everything will work, and likely anything you build there will 
have incompatibilities with what gets released officially from Fink 
as far as panther support, so be prepared to start over when we have 
something that's working better.  =)
	That's fine. I normally salvage /sw/src and reinstall from 
source periodically anyway.

	This page doesn't talk about how to get started; just how to 
upgrade a working install. I will copy /sw from my Jaguar partition 
onto my Panther partition, and fink selfupdate-cvs; fink 
update-all; news at 11.

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[Fink-devel] gcc_select 3

2003-10-02 Thread Yarden Livnat
Greatings,

I have upgraded to fink 13.9 from the cvs and run ./inject.pl
I'm running on Panther which means I'm using gcc3.3 by default
I had very few problems compiling programs via fink, that is until 
today. Now that the gcc_select is up it forces me to switch to 
gcc_select 3 before compiling. This is bad as everything else in 
compiled with 3.3 not 3.1 . I don't understand why it thinks I have to 
use 3.1 even when the same program compiled fine before on 3.3...

I also tried to fix the link: dists - 10.2-gcc3.3 but to no avail.

I am not a fink developer and thus use the anonymous@ cvs. (I don't 
know if this is the cause).

any pointers how I can avoid the select_gcc 3 ?

thanks,

	Yarden 



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Re: [Fink-devel] fort77 can't be compiled.

2003-10-02 Thread Alexander K. Hansen
On Tuesday, September 30, 2003, at 11:37 AM, Pascal J.Bourguignon wrote:

Jeff Whitaker writes:
On Tue, 30 Sep 2003, Pascal J.Bourguignon wrote:
Pascal:  If you installed the gcc3.3 update, sudo 
/usr/sbin/gcc_select
3.1 and rebuild f2c and fort77.  If you haven't installed gcc 3.3, 
I have
no idea what's wrong.
Ok, so some fink packages need 3.3, other need 3.1 (or is it 
2.95.2?).
Perhaps it would be possible for fink to select the right compiler 
for
each package?
3.3 is not officially supported in fink yet, there will be a 
10.2-gcc3.3
distribution shortly however.  Some packages need 2.95, but that is
handled automatically by the package. There are no packages in fink 
now
that need 3.3.  The clisp package works with 3.1.
Definitely not.  That's the only reason  why I upgraded to  3.3, to be
able to compile clisp 2.29 from fink.

I had no problems building clisp-2.29 with gcc 3.1.

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Re: [Fink-devel] gcc_select 3

2003-10-02 Thread David R. Morrison
We're still in the process of upgrading packages to be ready for gcc 3.3.
The enforcement of the fink declaration GCC: 3.1 was not done in the
past, but is now being done with the recent upgrade.

Your best strategy if you are using panther is to make sure that the
dists symlink points to 10.2-gcc3.3 .  In that tree, you'll find that
all stable packages can be compiled with gcc 3.3.

For packages in 10.2-gcc3.3/unstable, you might need to edit the GCC line
in the info file from 3.1 to 3.3.  We're working on this, but each package
needs to be tested.

  -- Dave


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Re: [Fink-devel] fort77 can't be compiled.

2003-10-02 Thread David R. Morrison
clisp-2.29 is also available from fink in binary form.  The binary was
compiled with gcc 3.1.

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