Re: [Fink-devel] Re: Fink's Package LAME

2004-10-04 Thread Alexander Strange
On Oct 4, 2004, at 9:21 PM, Blair Zajac wrote:
Well, there doesn't appear to be a consensus amongst the audio experts 
on the 3.93.1 versus 3.96.1.  Here are some threads on this:
3.96 was the choice for the last major listening test. In any case, we 
should be trusting the LAME developers to know when to release things 
and when not to.


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[Fink-devel] Re: Fink's Package LAME

2004-10-04 Thread Blair Zajac
Anthony Agelastos wrote:
Hello all. I forwarded an email I sent to a package maintainer regarding 
the LAME port in Fink; I have not had a reply (perhaps I was seen as 
Junk mail). So, I thought I'd post on Fink-devel about it. I have 
noticed that the current version of LAME supported by Fink (in stable & 
unstable) is 3.93.1-11, which was released on 11/30/2002 (per 
lame.sf.net), while the current version of LAME is at 3.96.1.
Well, there doesn't appear to be a consensus amongst the audio experts 
on the 3.93.1 versus 3.96.1.  Here are some threads on this:

http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=27650
http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=27870
http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=24002&hl=3\.90\.3+vs\.+3\.96
I would state that until there's a consensus from hydrogenaudio.org, 
then we don't upgrade.  The other solution is to create a lame3.96 
package which conflicts with lame.

Regards,
Blair
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[Fink-devel] warning users about broken g++-3.3

2004-10-04 Thread David R. Morrison
As we all know, g++-3.3 in XCode 1.5 is broken.  I had expected a fix 
by now, but since it hasn't shown up, I believe we should warn users 
about this while they are running fink itself.

I propose adding a check for the bad build, checking only the file 
/usr/libexec/gcc/darwin/ppc/3.3/cc1plus which is the one Martin 
Costabel has identified as causing the problem.  "Build 1666" is the 
bad one for this file.

RangerRick indicated on IRC that it would not be too hard to create a 
"broken-gcc" package in VirtPackages.pm which shows up if the offending 
file has the offending build number.  We could then test for this 
elsewhere in the code; for example, any time you are going to build or 
rebuild something with fink, you might receive a warning about a bad 
build of g++-3.3 if this broken-gcc package is present.

Or, maybe someone else would like to suggest a different place to 
insert this?

  -- Dave

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Re: [Fink-devel] fink using apt-get [with patch rev. 7 & 8]

2004-10-04 Thread Michal 'hramrach' Suchanek
On Fri, Oct 01, 2004 at 11:17:00AM +0200, Christian Schaffner wrote:
> 
> On 29.09.2004, at 11:57, Michal 'hramrach' Suchanek wrote:
> 
> >Hello
> >
> >I tried to download a package with versions 5 and 8 of the patch but it
> >is hard to find one that would download form the binary distribution.
> 
> Well, you could try svn-client-ssl-1.0.6-11. And others... :)
Well, I removed xfree86 because it broke and I got quite a few
candidates :)
> 
> >Is there also support for downloading dependencies that are older in 
> >the
> >apt repository than in fink but should suffice for the requested
> >package?
> 
> Not as it is now. And it would probably be a little bit more 
> complicated.
I see. But I think the current implementation solves the most annoying
case anyway.


Thanks 

Michal Suchanek


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[Fink-devel] No XKB in XFree86 4.4

2004-10-04 Thread Michal 'hramrach' Suchanek
Hello

I upgraded to XFree86 4.4 recently and the xkb extension is not present
in the package.

Since I was using that to get some sane keyboard layout (get meta and alt
at known position to make windowmanagers behave the same as other
platforms, possibly switch to non-english keyboard layout) I miss this
extension.

I think it is not too large as the supporting programs are still there,
the missing parts are the layout descriptions and the extension itself.

Thanks 

Michal Suchanek


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[Fink-devel] Fink's Package LAME

2004-10-04 Thread Anthony Agelastos
Hello all. I forwarded an email I sent to a package maintainer regarding the LAME port in Fink; I have not had a reply (perhaps I was seen as Junk mail). So, I thought I'd post on Fink-devel about it. I have noticed that the current version of LAME supported by Fink (in stable & unstable) is 3.93.1-11, which was released on 11/30/2002 (per lame.sf.net), while the current version of LAME is at 3.96.1. 

Begin forwarded message:

From: Anthony Agelastos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: September 23, 2004 5:13:02 PM MST
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Fink's Lame

Hello and thank you for all of your wonderful work for Fink. I have noticed that the current version of LAME supported by Fink is 3.93.1-11, which was released on 11/30/2002. I was wondering, now that they are at 3.96.1, if you were going to update LAME. Thanks.

-Anthony

 

Re: [Fink-devel] Still care about GCC field?

2004-10-04 Thread D. Höhn
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Re: [Fink-devel] ignoring /usr/local, was: Re: [Fink-users] Problems compiling libwmf-0.2.8.2-4

2004-10-04 Thread Chris Dolan
On Oct 3, 2004, at 3:50 PM, Martin Costabel wrote:
Kevin Horton wrote:
[]
I agree 100% that the default behavior should be to not touch 
/usr/local.  But, if I understand correctly, none of the Apple 
supplied software should be in /usr/local.  This would only be other 
user installed software.  If the fink team can't find a way to make 
Fink ignore /usr/local when building things, then an optional, user 
selectable behavior to automatically temporarily move /usr/local out 
of the way appears to be better than the current situation.
It seems a shame to throw out  a potentially useful improvement 
purely on philosophical grounds.  If this change truly could cause 
serious problems, then it is a bad idea.  But let's at least discuss 
what those problems could be before we throw the idea out.
There is no simple solution to this problem. Maybe none at all.
Moving /usr/local is a very bad solution for me, since that would break 
GPGMail while fink is running.  Plus, /usr/local/ is not the only 
problem.  User-installed files in /Library/Perl has similar issues 
since some Makefile.PL scripts check if modules are installed.


Could chroot help us out in this situation?  Could we mount /sw and 
/usr (and others?) somewhere and just access those dirs?  I'm sure this 
must have been discussed on fink-devel before...


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[Fink-devel] Still care about GCC field?

2004-10-04 Thread Daniel Macks
I've seen some packages slip in lately that are C++, but do not
declare GCC:3.3 in the .info. Is this requirement still necessary?

dan

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