[Fink-devel] Missing dependencies (ethereal-ssl or gtk+2)

2005-05-07 Thread Anthony DeRobertis
In order for the build of ethereal-ssl to find GTK+2, I had to manually
install:

pango1-xft2-dev
atk1

I suspect gtk+2-dev should depend on these. Otherwise:

pkg-config --cflags gtk+-2.0

fails, complaining about those two packages missing. Which makes
ethereal's configure script decide gtk+2.0 isn't there. I imagine this
affects gtk+2.0-dev users in general, not just ethereal-ssl.


BTW: The symptom of this failure is that in the end you'll wind up with
 only tethereal. The build is still going, I'll report back if there
 turn out to be any additional problems. Googling for the problem,
 it appears that no one really solved it, though back in April
 someone thought their gtk+2.0 was broken; I suspect rebuilding
 gtk+2.0 just managed to install those missing packages.


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[Fink-devel] abs-0.908-12

2005-05-07 Thread Ehab Abunuwara
the home page information is not valid anymore, unable
to access.
installation current but no idea how to run the program!


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Re: [Fink-devel] Missing dependencies (ethereal-ssl or gtk+2)

2005-05-07 Thread Martin Costabel
Anthony DeRobertis wrote:
In order for the build of ethereal-ssl to find GTK+2, I had to manually
install:
pango1-xft2-dev
atk1
I suspect gtk+2-dev should depend on these. Otherwise:
gtk+2-dev must not depend on anything. It has, however, in its 
description the lines:

 Any package which BuildDepends on this one must also BuildDepend on:
 atk1 (= 1.6.0-1), glib2-dev (= 2.4.0-1), pango1-xft2-dev (= 1.4.0-1)
Visibly, ethereal-ssl doesn't follow this requirement. I fixed it in CVS 
now.

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Re: [Fink-devel] Missing dependencies (ethereal-ssl or gtk+2)

2005-05-07 Thread Anthony DeRobertis
Martin Costabel wrote:
 
 gtk+2-dev must not depend on anything.

A quick check didn't show anything in fink packaging policy about -dev
packages not being able to depend on anything, and indeed gtk+2-dev does
depend on things:

Depends: gtk+2-shlibs (= 2.4.9-8), gtk+2 (= 2.4.9-8), darwin (= 8-1)

 It has, however, in its
 description the lines:
 
  Any package which BuildDepends on this one must also BuildDepend on:
  atk1 (= 1.6.0-1), glib2-dev (= 2.4.0-1), pango1-xft2-dev (= 1.4.0-1)

I'm sure there is a good reason for this, but that really sounds rather
backwards...


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Re: [Fink-devel] Missing dependencies (ethereal-ssl or gtk+2)

2005-05-07 Thread Peter O'Gorman
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Anthony DeRobertis wrote:
| Martin Costabel wrote:
|
|gtk+2-dev must not depend on anything.
|
|
| A quick check didn't show anything in fink packaging policy about -dev
| packages not being able to depend on anything, and indeed gtk+2-dev does
| depend on things:
|
| Depends: gtk+2-shlibs (= 2.4.9-8), gtk+2 (= 2.4.9-8), darwin (= 8-1)
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|
|It has, however, in its
|description the lines:
|
| Any package which BuildDepends on this one must also BuildDepend on:
| atk1 (= 1.6.0-1), glib2-dev (= 2.4.0-1), pango1-xft2-dev (= 1.4.0-1)
|
|
| I'm sure there is a good reason for this, but that really sounds rather
| backwards...
Yes there is a good reason. Think for a second and you'll realize what it
is Packages which are Build Depends Only can not depend on other,
unrelated, packages. It is erfectly fine for them to depend on their own
shared libraries etc, it is required, in fact. But if it were to depend on,
for example glib2, then it would be impossible for another package to
BuildDepend on glib without a BuildConflicts on gtk+2-dev etc, Depends and
BuildDepends are totally different things. Please put some thought into
things before postingand accusing others of stupidity.
Thanks,
Peter
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Re: [Fink-devel] Missing dependencies (ethereal-ssl or gtk+2)

2005-05-07 Thread Martin Costabel
Anthony DeRobertis wrote:
Martin Costabel wrote:
gtk+2-dev must not depend on anything.
 
A quick check didn't show anything in fink packaging policy about -dev
packages not being able to depend on anything, and indeed gtk+2-dev does
depend on things:

Depends: gtk+2-shlibs (= 2.4.9-8), gtk+2 (= 2.4.9-8), darwin (= 8-1)
Well, I exaggerated a little; it is not allowed to depend on things that 
have the BuildDependsOnly flag set, that is basically other *-dev packages.

It has, however, in its
description the lines:
Any package which BuildDepends on this one must also BuildDepend on:
atk1 (= 1.6.0-1), glib2-dev (= 2.4.0-1), pango1-xft2-dev (= 1.4.0-1)

I'm sure there is a good reason for this, but that really sounds rather
backwards...
I agree, and this has been discussed from time to time, but so far none 
of the proposed solutions has made it into reality.

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Re: [Fink-devel] Missing dependencies (ethereal-ssl or gtk+2)

2005-05-07 Thread Anthony DeRobertis
Peter O'Gorman wrote:

 | I'm sure there is a good reason for this, but that really sounds rather
 | backwards...
 
 Yes there is a good reason. Think for a second and you'll realize what it
 is Packages which are Build Depends Only can not depend on other,
 unrelated, packages.



 It is erfectly fine for them to depend on their own
 shared libraries etc, it is required, in fact. But if it were to depend on,
 for example glib2, then it would be impossible for another package to
 BuildDepend on glib without a BuildConflicts on gtk+2-dev etc,

Why?!

   BuildDepends
pkgA  glib
/|\
  Depends|
gtk+2-dev --/

The isn't anything inconsistent there.


There is the BuildDependsOnly stuff in the Policy Manual (not quite
clear on the reason for that; from reading Policy, it sounds like a
technical limitation in the package manager). And yes, since glib2 is no
doubt BuildDependsOnly: true, gtk+2-dev can't declare a Depends on it by
policy.

 Depends and BuildDepends are totally different things.

Really? Policy says otherwise. Policy says the only difference between
Depends and Build-Depends is that Build-Depends does not apply after the
build has finished. From that, it seems, at least at first glance (and
from experience with how Debian handles it) --- absent BuildDependsOnly
--- that you'd have gtk+2 Depends: on the extra header packages, and
it'd all work.


 Please put some thought into things before postingand accusing others of 
 stupidity.

I have not accused anyone of stupidity.


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Re: [Fink-devel] Missing dependencies (ethereal-ssl or gtk+2)

2005-05-07 Thread Martin Costabel
Anthony DeRobertis wrote:
Peter O'Gorman wrote:
[]
It is erfectly fine for them to depend on their own
shared libraries etc, it is required, in fact. But if it were to depend on,
for example glib2, then it would be impossible for another package to
BuildDepend on glib without a BuildConflicts on gtk+2-dev etc,

Why?!
glib and glib2 are not good examples; they are compatible. But there are 
many *-dev packages that conflict with and replace other *-dev packages 
and are to be freely swapped in and out during package building. If any 
other package had a Depends on one of them, it could not be swapped out.

This is a hard technical reason for forbidding Depends on some *-dev 
packages which have therefore the BuildDependsOnly flag set.

Policy comes into play when it is required that *all* packages 
containing header files should fall into this category. There are good 
reasons for this policy, but it is not complete; besides the 
BuildDependsOnly and BuildConflicts fields, it would need some 
replacement for the forbidden Depends, such as the InheritedBuildDepends 
that has been suggested but not yet implemented.

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Re: [Fink-devel] Fwd: Fink SDL error on 10.4

2005-05-07 Thread Martin Costabel
Benjamin Reed wrote:
Max Horn wrote:
ld: warning multiple definitions of symbol ___eprintf
/usr/lib/gcc/powerpc-apple-darwin8/4.0.0/libgcc.a(_eprintf.o) private
external definition of ___eprintf in section (__TEXT,__text)
/usr/lib/gcc/powerpc-apple-darwin8/4.0.0/libstdc++.dylib(single module)
definition of ___eprintf
ld: Undefined symbols:
__ZNSt24__default_alloc_templateILb1ELi0EE10deallocateEPvm
__ZNSt24__default_alloc_templateILb1ELi0EE12_S_force_newE
__ZNSt24__default_alloc_templateILb1ELi0EE12_S_free_listE
__ZNSt24__default_alloc_templateILb1ELi0EE22_S_node_allocator_lockE
__ZNSt24__default_alloc_templateILb1ELi0EE8allocateEm
__ZNSt24__default_alloc_templateILb1ELi0EE9_S_refillEm
/usr/bin/libtool: internal link edit command failed
make[2]: *** [libSDL.la] Error 1
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
### execution of make failed, exit code 2
Failed: compiling sdl-1.2.7-1 failed

Looks like you need SetCC: gcc-3.3
Another problem with mixing and matching g++-3.3 and gcc-4.0 (If I had 
to guess.)
The problem here being that sdl is cheating and not using c++ for 
linking but gcc -lstdc++.

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Re: [Fink-devel] Missing dependencies (ethereal-ssl or gtk+2)

2005-05-07 Thread Anthony DeRobertis
On May 7, 2005, at 12:39, Martin Costabel wrote:
glib and glib2 are not good examples; they are compatible. But  
there are many *-dev packages that conflict with and replace other  
*-dev packages and are to be freely swapped in and out during  
package building. If any other package had a Depends on one of  
them, it could not be swapped out.
OK, that makes sense. Well, they could be swapped out (by removing  
the depending packages), but I'm guessing that's not implemented.


There are good reasons for this policy, but it is not complete;  
besides the BuildDependsOnly and BuildConflicts fields, it would  
need some replacement for the forbidden Depends, such as the  
InheritedBuildDepends that has been suggested but not yet implemented.
I'm rather curios why you'd want a IneheritedBuildDepends instead of  
just fixing the Depends handling --- because, currently, the  
installed gtk+2-dev is very much broken[0], and  
IneheritedBuildDepends (guessing from the name) won't fix that.

Is there a good pointer into the list archives?

[0] It, e.g., has #includes to pango, which will fail when only  
Essential and
Depends are installed. Not to mention pkg-config is very upset  
about it.

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Re: [Fink-devel] Missing dependencies (ethereal-ssl or gtk+2)

2005-05-07 Thread Martin Costabel
Anthony DeRobertis wrote:
[]
I'm rather curios why you'd want a IneheritedBuildDepends instead of  
just fixing the Depends handling --- because, currently, the  installed 
gtk+2-dev is very much broken[0], and  IneheritedBuildDepends (guessing 
from the name) won't fix that.
There is nothing broken if the advice in the description
 Any package which BuildDepends on this one must also BuildDepend on:
 atk1 (= 1.6.0-1), glib2-dev (= 2.4.0-1), pango1-xft2-dev (= 1.4.0-1) 
is followed. The only problem is that this has do be done manually and 
is not done automatically. InheritedBuildDepends would be a method to do 
 it automatically.

Is there a good pointer into the list archives?
I don't know, I have them all on my hard disk :-)
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[Fink-devel] oaf-0.6.10-24 does not configure on Mac OS 10.4

2005-05-07 Thread John T. Hale
Hi, despite having (as the FAQ suggests) reinstalled the latest  
Developer Tools from Xcode2 (including the 10.4 SDK)
I get this error trying to configure `oaf'

checking for C compiler default output... configure: error: C  
compiler cannot create executables
### execution of ./configure failed, exit code 77
I am not so much interested in oaf as I am in things that depend on  
it -- I might be able to help figure out the problem if I knew how to  
get a Debian package into a state where one can run GNU configure  
manually.

My fink versions are:
Package manager version: 0.24.5
Distribution version: 0.7.1.rsync
my Operating System is Mac OS 10.4
Darwin goedel.local 8.0.0 Darwin Kernel Version 8.0.0: Sat Mar 26  
14:15:22 PST 2005; root:xnu-792.obj~1/RELEASE_PPC Power Macintosh  
powerpc
attached is a trace of fink's outputs:

error.log
Description: Binary data

Please let me know if there is anything I can do to help get this  
package working.

best,
-john


Re: [Fink-devel] oaf-0.6.10-24 does not configure on Mac OS 10.4

2005-05-07 Thread Alexander K. Hansen
On May 7, 2005, at 4:16 PM, John T. Hale wrote:
Hi, despite having (as the FAQ suggests) reinstalled the latest 
Developer Tools from Xcode2 (including the 10.4 SDK)
I get this error trying to configure `oaf'

checking for C compiler default output... configure: error: C 
compiler cannot create executables
### execution of ./configure failed, exit code 77
I am not so much interested in oaf as I am in things that depend on it 
-- I might be able to help figure out the problem if I knew how to get 
a Debian package into a state where one can run GNU configure 
manually.

My fink versions are:
Package manager version: 0.24.5
Distribution version: 0.7.1.rsync
my Operating System is Mac OS 10.4
Darwin goedel.local 8.0.0 Darwin Kernel Version 8.0.0: Sat Mar 26 
14:15:22 PST 2005; root:xnu-792.obj~1/RELEASE_PPC Power Macintosh 
powerpc
attached is a trace of fink's outputs:error.log
Please let me know if there is anything I can do to help get this 
package working.

best,
-john

Check the config.log file (e.g. 
/sw/src/oaf-0.6.10-24/oaf-0.6.10/config.log) and see what it says.  I'd 
be willing to bet that you're missing some essential header files.

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[Fink-devel] oops

2005-05-07 Thread Alexander K. Hansen
Sorry about the SPAM--bit of a malfunction on my part

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[Fink-devel] darcs - can I adopt it?

2005-05-07 Thread Corey Halpin
  I noticed today that darcs has no maintainer.
  Anybody mind if I adopt it?

crh


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Re: [Fink-devel] darcs - can I adopt it?

2005-05-07 Thread Lars Rosengreen
On May 7, 2005, at 2:06 PM, Corey Halpin wrote:
  I noticed today that darcs has no maintainer.
  Anybody mind if I adopt it?
speaking as the person who orphaned it a few months ago, go right  
ahead :)  there might be a newer info file in my experimental  
directory, but I seem to remember there being a problem with it.

-Lars
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Re: [Fink-devel] darcs - can I adopt it?

2005-05-07 Thread Corey Halpin
On 2005-05-07, Lars Rosengreen wrote:
 speaking as the person who orphaned it a few months ago, go right  
 ahead :)  there might be a newer info file in my experimental  
 directory, but I seem to remember there being a problem with it.


Adopted now.  I'll poke around in your experimental and see what I find.

regards,
crh


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