[Fink-devel] help testing new Installers

2005-05-16 Thread David R. Morrison
I hope a few people will be willing to help test some new binary Installers
for fink (under 10.2 and 10.3) before they are released to the user
community.  The files are at:
  http://www.cgtp.duke.edu/~drm/Fink-0.6.4-Installer.dmg (for 10.2)
  http://www.cgtp.duke.edu/~drm/Fink-0.7.2-Installer.dmg (for 10.3)

In order to install fink with these, you cannot have a /sw directory.
If you move it to /sw.tmp, you can then test the installer, delete the
copy of /sw made by the installer, and move your /sw tree back into
place.

I'll be happy to hear reports both positive and negative.  There will be
a similar testing period for a 10.4 installer, probably in about one week's
time.

  Thanks,
  Dave


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Re: [Fink-devel] Python, frameworks and Tkinter in 10.4

2005-05-16 Thread Andrea Riciputi
I've long though about the possibility of using aquafied GUI from  
Fink's Python, but I've not been so smart as you. I think that a Python  
package that builds against the Aqua Tcl/Tk would be great, and Fink's  
users would appreciate it a lot. I hope the developers take it into  
account.

Just my 2 cents,
 Andrea.
On 14 May 2005, at 18:46, William Scott wrote:
Hi citizens:
I noticed that 10.4 now comes with an aquafied TclTk framework.  For  
awhile now I had been manually installing this, and then manually  
installing a framework build of Python.

With 10.4, this just became much easier, as the only thing required  
for me to build Python 2.4 was to configure enabling frameworks and  
then to issue make frameworkinstall.  To get python to use the  
non-fink TclTk by default, I just put prepended /usr/bin to my path  
temporarily.  After it installed, I created the symbolic link
  
/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/Current/lib/python2.4/ 
site-packages -> /sw/lib/python2.4/site-packages/   to replace the  
(empty) framework site-packages directory with mine from fink, that  
contains other modules like numeric, scientific, Pmw, and so on.

As a result, programs (such as pymol) that use Tkinter or Pmw (which  
depends on Tkinter) launch FIVE TIMES faster than with the X-windows  
version in fink (6 seconds vs. 30 seconds on my 2x2.5 GHz G5), and  
using IDLE is now faster and it is aquafied.

I was wondering if it would be possible to have a version of Python  
within fink that builds against the aqua TclTk in fink?  I think you  
can potentially put frameworks anywhere.

The only drawback I can see currently is that there are some functions  
within Pmw that depend on blt, which is not yet available in the aqua  
form.

Just an idea ...
Bill Scott

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[Fink-devel] pymol-py 0.98-1

2005-05-16 Thread Jack Howarth
Dan,
   What else do I need to do to get the new variant version of
the pymol package (now pymol-py) into fink unstable?
 Jack
ps The pymol-py.info and pymol-py.patch files are both uploaded into
the fink package tracker. Note that these would both replace the 
current pymol.info and pymol.patch. The pymol-py.info and the
resulting packages for pymol-py23 and pymol-py24  pass fink validate.


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[Fink-devel] Re: help testing new Installers

2005-05-16 Thread Robert T Wyatt
David R. Morrison wrote:
  http://www.cgtp.duke.edu/~drm/Fink-0.7.2-Installer.dmg (for 10.3)
Seemed to hang very near the end while ' running installer script' with 
less than a minute to go. (I had moved sw/ to sw.away/ before running 
the installer.) So I issued /sw/bin/pathsetup.sh which  said everything 
is set up already, then I force quit the installer which subsequently 
also ran pathsetup and again said everything is set up correctly.

After opening a new terminal window I had:
* My operating system:
ProductName:Mac OS X
ProductVersion: 10.3.9
BuildVersion:   7W98
* My gcc version: gcc (GCC) 3.3 20030304 (Apple Computer, Inc. build 1671)
* My fink version:
Package manager version: 0.23.8
Distribution version: 0.7.2
also:
* fink scanpackages began: Mon May 16 07:28:56 CDT 2005
Reading package info...
WARNING: Repeated occurrence of field "descpackaging" at line 81 of 
info2 of "/sw/fink/dists/stable/crypto/finkinfo/svn-ssl-swig-py.info".
WARNING: Repeated occurrence of field "descpackaging" at line 359 of 
"/sw/fink/dists/stable/crypto/finkinfo/svn-ssl.info".
Updating package index... done.
Information about 2139 packages read in 29 seconds.
dpkg-scanpackages dists/local/main/binary-darwin-powerpc override | gzip 
>dists/local/main/binary-darwin-powerpc/Packages.gz
 Wrote 0 entries to output Packages file.
dpkg-scanpackages dists/stable/main/binary-darwin-powerpc override | 
gzip >dists/stable/main/binary-darwin-powerpc/Packages.gz
 Wrote 0 entries to output Packages file.
dpkg-scanpackages dists/stable/crypto/binary-darwin-powerpc override | 
gzip >dists/stable/crypto/binary-darwin-powerpc/Packages.gz
 Wrote 0 entries to output Packages file.

and:
* fink index began: Mon May 16 07:29:28 CDT 2005
Reading package info...
WARNING: Repeated occurrence of field "descpackaging" at line 81 of 
info2 of "/sw/fink/dists/stable/crypto/finkinfo/svn-ssl-swig-py.info".
WARNING: Repeated occurrence of field "descpackaging" at line 359 of 
"/sw/fink/dists/stable/crypto/finkinfo/svn-ssl.info".
Updating package index... done.

finally fink.conf:
lsn:~ robwyatt$ cat /sw/etc/fink.conf
# Fink configuration, initially created by bootstrap.pl
Basepath: /sw
RootMethod: sudo
Trees: local/main stable/main stable/crypto
Distribution: 10.3
Mirror-apt: http://bindist.finkmirrors.net/bindist
Mirror-cpan: ftp://ftp.funet.fi/pub/languages/perl/CPAN/
Mirror-ctan: ftp://tug.ctan.org/tex-archive/
Mirror-debian: ftp.debian.org
Mirror-gimp: ftp://ftp.gimp.org/pub/gimp/
Mirror-gnome: ftp://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/
Mirror-gnu: ftp://ftp.gnu.org/gnu
Mirror-kde: ftp://ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/
Mirror-master: http://distfiles.master.finkmirrors.net/
Mirror-rsync: rsync://master.us.finkmirrors.net/finkinfo/
Mirror-sourceforge: http://west.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/
MirrorContinent: nam
MirrorCountry: nam-us
MirrorOrder: MasterFirst
ProxyPassiveFTP: true
UseBinaryDist: true
Verbose: 1
SelfUpdateMethod: rsync
So it seems to work!

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[Fink-devel] postgrey for Postfix

2005-05-16 Thread Manuel Hendel
I'm looking for postgry, a kind of anti spam tool for postfix. Is  
anybody already working on this. If not, is anybody out there who  
feels like wanting to build this package?

This would be really great.
Thanks in advance,
mhe
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[Fink-devel] aqual tcltk Pmw gui

2005-05-16 Thread William Scott
Dear Murali:
Python2.3 distributed by apple in 10.4 does not appear to make use of  
their aqua tcltk framework.  I don't understand why they didn't do  
this, but that was my motivation to compile Python2.4 using Apple's  
tcltk framework.  In order to get the "hybrid" program that Warren  
distributes to use this, you would have to either recompile Python2.3  
in the same way we did for 2.4, or wait for Warren to distribute the  
hybrid program using Python2.4.  He could probably be persuaded to  
have it use Apple's TclTk as long as we all continue to faithfully  
support his efforts with MacPymol.  I just renewed my maintenance  
agreement for MacPyMol; it is definitely very much worth it.

All the best,
Bill
Begin forwarded message:
Message: 1
From: Murali Vadivelu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Fink-devel] Python, frameworks and Tkinter in 10.4
Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 16:14:07 +0100
To: William Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
 fink-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Dear Fink Developers,
Pymol's install plugin menu gives the following error:
AttributeError Exception in Tk callback
   Function:  at 0x56d0cf0> (type: )
   Args: ()
Traceback (innermost last):
   File "/Users/delwarl/pymol/products/PyMOLX11Hybrid.app/py23/lib/
python2.3/Pmw/Pmw_1_2/lib/PmwBase.py", line 1747, in __call__
 None
   File "/Users/muralikv/Desktop/PyMOLX11Hybrid-0.98-rc5.app/pymol/
modules/pmg_tk/skins/normal/__init__.py", line 2135, in 
 command = lambda s=self: s.install_plugin())
AttributeError: Normal instance has no attribute 'install_plugin'

Then of interest to developers wanting to use Aqua-Tcl/Tk:
I compiled 0.98 using the .info file from Prof. Bill Scott. as
mentioned by him below.
It works fine. I tested against MacPython version 2.4.1 on Tiger.
I also took the PymolX11Hybrid (version 0.98rc5 downloaded from pymol
site) and removed the X11 Tcl/Tk, Python files and replaced it with
the Tiger provided equivalents. It did not work as the GUI didn't
respond. Then I replaced all the Pymol files, with the fink compiled
Pymol. It works perfectly fine now. However, the Pymol Viewer Window
is still an X11 window! Its the opposite of the original
PymolX11Hybrid.app where the menu/ command window is X11 and the
Pymol Viewer window is native mac!! Does anyone know how to create a
native Pymol Viewer Window so that it does not need X11 at all.
Many thanks.
Best regards,
Murali.
On 14 May 2005, at 10:01 pm, William Scott wrote:

Dear Muraili:
For pymol, I just did this:

This uses the original patch file.
Then when it installed I changed the /sw/bin/pymol file to call /
usr/bin/pymol2.4
HTH,
Bill

On May 14, 2005, at 1:53 PM, Murali Vadivelu wrote:

Dear Professor Scott,
Do you have these binaries and/ or specific instructions (if any/
required) in your web site?
Many thanks.
Yours sincerely,
Murali.
On 14 May 2005, at 07:52 pm, William Scott wrote:


Here's a screenshot of how it looks with the fink version of pymol.
The Pmw menu launches 5 times faster and looks nicer.
http://babyurl.com/pDCJhv/pymol_screenshot.png

On Sat, 14 May 2005, Murali Vadivelu wrote:


I think its a fantastic idea. I built R against the Tiger
version of
aqua-tcl/tk and used a tcl/tk package from inside R (called
RCommander). It works flawlessly! Its just fantastic. The output
graph from the package was displayed in another quartz window  
which
has to be opened from inside the R command line manually. Its a
good
work by the R team. They carbonized the binary using a single line
command from a command line tool included with the Developer  
tools.

On 14 May 2005, at 05:46 pm, William Scott wrote:


Hi citizens:
I noticed that 10.4 now comes with an aquafied TclTk framework.
For awhile now I had been manually installing this, and then
manually installing a framework build of Python.
With 10.4, this just became much easier, as the only thing
required
for me to build Python 2.4 was to configure enabling frameworks
and
then to issue make frameworkinstall.  To get python to use the
non-
fink TclTk by default, I just put prepended /usr/bin to my path
temporarily.  After it installed, I created the symbolic link
 /Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/Current/lib/
python2.4/site-packages -> /sw/lib/python2.4/site-packages/   to
replace the (empty) framework site-packages directory with mine
from fink, that contains other modules like numeric, scientific,
Pmw, and so on.
As a result, programs (such as pymol) that use Tkinter or Pmw
(which depends on Tkinter) launch FIVE TIMES faster than with
the X-
windows version in fink (6 seconds vs. 30 seconds on my 2x2.5 GHz
G5), and using IDLE is now faster and it is aquafied.
I was wondering if it would be possible to have a version of
Python
within fink that builds against the aqua TclTk in fink?  I think
you can potentially put frameworks anywhere.
The only drawback I can see currently is that there are some
functions within Pmw that depend on blt, which is not yet
available
in the aqua form.
Just an idea ...
B

[Fink-devel] Fwd: aqual tcltk Pmw gui: I was wrong

2005-05-16 Thread William Scott
What I wrote about apple's python 2.3 is false.  I had forgot to make  
the symbolic link in the 2.3 frameworks to site-packages in fink.

When I do this, I get a nice aqua interface for the hybrid just by  
replacing

PyMOLX11Hybrid.app/py23/lib/python2.3
with a link to
/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/Current/lib/ 
python2.3/

Sorry.
Bill


Begin forwarded message:
From: William Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: May 16, 2005 7:51:28 AM PDT
To: Murali Vadivelu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: fink-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, pymol- 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: aqual tcltk Pmw gui
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Dear Murali:
Python2.3 distributed by apple in 10.4 does not appear to make use  
of their aqua tcltk framework.  I don't understand why they didn't  
do this, but that was my motivation to compile Python2.4 using  
Apple's tcltk framework.  In order to get the "hybrid" program that  
Warren distributes to use this, you would have to either recompile  
Python2.3 in the same way we did for 2.4, or wait for Warren to  
distribute the hybrid program using Python2.4.  He could probably  
be persuaded to have it use Apple's TclTk as long as we all  
continue to faithfully support his efforts with MacPymol.  I just  
renewed my maintenance agreement for MacPyMol; it is definitely  
very much worth it.

All the best,
Bill
Begin forwarded message:

Message: 1
From: Murali Vadivelu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Fink-devel] Python, frameworks and Tkinter in 10.4
Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 16:14:07 +0100
To: William Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
 fink-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Dear Fink Developers,
Pymol's install plugin menu gives the following error:
AttributeError Exception in Tk callback
   Function:  at 0x56d0cf0> (type: )
   Args: ()
Traceback (innermost last):
   File "/Users/delwarl/pymol/products/PyMOLX11Hybrid.app/py23/lib/
python2.3/Pmw/Pmw_1_2/lib/PmwBase.py", line 1747, in __call__
 None
   File "/Users/muralikv/Desktop/PyMOLX11Hybrid-0.98-rc5.app/pymol/
modules/pmg_tk/skins/normal/__init__.py", line 2135, in 
 command = lambda s=self: s.install_plugin())
AttributeError: Normal instance has no attribute 'install_plugin'

Then of interest to developers wanting to use Aqua-Tcl/Tk:
I compiled 0.98 using the .info file from Prof. Bill Scott. as
mentioned by him below.
It works fine. I tested against MacPython version 2.4.1 on Tiger.
I also took the PymolX11Hybrid (version 0.98rc5 downloaded from pymol
site) and removed the X11 Tcl/Tk, Python files and replaced it with
the Tiger provided equivalents. It did not work as the GUI didn't
respond. Then I replaced all the Pymol files, with the fink compiled
Pymol. It works perfectly fine now. However, the Pymol Viewer Window
is still an X11 window! Its the opposite of the original
PymolX11Hybrid.app where the menu/ command window is X11 and the
Pymol Viewer window is native mac!! Does anyone know how to create a
native Pymol Viewer Window so that it does not need X11 at all.
Many thanks.
Best regards,
Murali.
On 14 May 2005, at 10:01 pm, William Scott wrote:

Dear Muraili:
For pymol, I just did this:

This uses the original patch file.
Then when it installed I changed the /sw/bin/pymol file to call /
usr/bin/pymol2.4
HTH,
Bill

On May 14, 2005, at 1:53 PM, Murali Vadivelu wrote:


Dear Professor Scott,
Do you have these binaries and/ or specific instructions (if any/
required) in your web site?
Many thanks.
Yours sincerely,
Murali.
On 14 May 2005, at 07:52 pm, William Scott wrote:


Here's a screenshot of how it looks with the fink version of  
pymol.
The Pmw menu launches 5 times faster and looks nicer.

http://babyurl.com/pDCJhv/pymol_screenshot.png

On Sat, 14 May 2005, Murali Vadivelu wrote:



I think its a fantastic idea. I built R against the Tiger
version of
aqua-tcl/tk and used a tcl/tk package from inside R (called
RCommander). It works flawlessly! Its just fantastic. The output
graph from the package was displayed in another quartz window  
which
has to be opened from inside the R command line manually. Its a
good
work by the R team. They carbonized the binary using a single  
line
command from a command line tool included with the Developer  
tools.

On 14 May 2005, at 05:46 pm, William Scott wrote:



Hi citizens:
I noticed that 10.4 now comes with an aquafied TclTk framework.
For awhile now I had been manually installing this, and then
manually installing a framework build of Python.
With 10.4, this just became much easier, as the only thing
required
for me to build Python 2.4 was to configure enabling frameworks
and
then to issue make frameworkinstall.  To get python to use the
non-
fink TclTk by default, I just put prepended /usr/bin to my path
temporarily.  After it installed, I created the symbolic link
 /Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/Current/lib/
python2.4/site-packages -> /sw/lib/python2.4/site-packages/   to
replace the (empty) framework site-packages directory with mine
from fink, that contains other modules

Re: [Fink-devel] Re: help testing new Installers

2005-05-16 Thread Daniel Macks
On Mon, May 16, 2005 at 07:35:50AM -0500, Robert T Wyatt wrote:
> ProductVersion: 10.3.9
[...]
> Reading package info...
> WARNING: Repeated occurrence of field "descpackaging" at line 81 of 
> info2 of "/sw/fink/dists/stable/crypto/finkinfo/svn-ssl-swig-py.info".
> WARNING: Repeated occurrence of field "descpackaging" at line 359 of 
> "/sw/fink/dists/stable/crypto/finkinfo/svn-ssl.info".
[...]
> Mirror-rsync: rsync://master.us.finkmirrors.net/finkinfo/
> SelfUpdateMethod: rsync

This was fixed a week or so (at the height of the mirror problems). If
a selfupdate doesn't fix it, please let us know whether the chosen
rsync mirror was used or whether it failed completely and you went to
another mirror.

drm: Does this mean the bindist contains a snapshot of this buggy file?

dan

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[Fink-devel] Re: aqual tcltk Pmw gui: I was wrong

2005-05-16 Thread Murali Vadivelu
Or put a copy of Pmw module in the site-packages folder in the / 
System/Library/Frameworks/Python.frameowrk/Versions/2.3/Python2.3/ 
lib/ folder.

Otherwise you get an import error when python tries to import Pmw.
On 16 May 2005, at 04:06 pm, William Scott wrote:
What I wrote about apple's python 2.3 is false.  I had forgot to  
make the symbolic link in the 2.3 frameworks to site-packages in fink.

When I do this, I get a nice aqua interface for the hybrid just by  
replacing

PyMOLX11Hybrid.app/py23/lib/python2.3
with a link to
/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/Current/lib/ 
python2.3/

Sorry.
Bill


Begin forwarded message:

From: William Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: May 16, 2005 7:51:28 AM PDT
To: Murali Vadivelu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: fink-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, pymol- 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: aqual tcltk Pmw gui
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Dear Murali:
Python2.3 distributed by apple in 10.4 does not appear to make use  
of their aqua tcltk framework.  I don't understand why they didn't  
do this, but that was my motivation to compile Python2.4 using  
Apple's tcltk framework.  In order to get the "hybrid" program  
that Warren distributes to use this, you would have to either  
recompile Python2.3 in the same way we did for 2.4, or wait for  
Warren to distribute the hybrid program using Python2.4.  He could  
probably be persuaded to have it use Apple's TclTk as long as we  
all continue to faithfully support his efforts with MacPymol.  I  
just renewed my maintenance agreement for MacPyMol; it is  
definitely very much worth it.

All the best,
Bill
Begin forwarded message:

Message: 1
From: Murali Vadivelu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Fink-devel] Python, frameworks and Tkinter in 10.4
Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 16:14:07 +0100
To: William Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
 fink-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Dear Fink Developers,
Pymol's install plugin menu gives the following error:
AttributeError Exception in Tk callback
   Function:  at 0x56d0cf0> (type: )
   Args: ()
Traceback (innermost last):
   File "/Users/delwarl/pymol/products/PyMOLX11Hybrid.app/py23/lib/
python2.3/Pmw/Pmw_1_2/lib/PmwBase.py", line 1747, in __call__
 None
   File "/Users/muralikv/Desktop/PyMOLX11Hybrid-0.98-rc5.app/pymol/
modules/pmg_tk/skins/normal/__init__.py", line 2135, in 
 command = lambda s=self: s.install_plugin())
AttributeError: Normal instance has no attribute 'install_plugin'

Then of interest to developers wanting to use Aqua-Tcl/Tk:
I compiled 0.98 using the .info file from Prof. Bill Scott. as
mentioned by him below.
It works fine. I tested against MacPython version 2.4.1 on Tiger.
I also took the PymolX11Hybrid (version 0.98rc5 downloaded from  
pymol
site) and removed the X11 Tcl/Tk, Python files and replaced it with
the Tiger provided equivalents. It did not work as the GUI didn't
respond. Then I replaced all the Pymol files, with the fink compiled
Pymol. It works perfectly fine now. However, the Pymol Viewer Window
is still an X11 window! Its the opposite of the original
PymolX11Hybrid.app where the menu/ command window is X11 and the
Pymol Viewer window is native mac!! Does anyone know how to create a
native Pymol Viewer Window so that it does not need X11 at all.

Many thanks.
Best regards,
Murali.
On 14 May 2005, at 10:01 pm, William Scott wrote:


Dear Muraili:
For pymol, I just did this:

This uses the original patch file.
Then when it installed I changed the /sw/bin/pymol file to call /
usr/bin/pymol2.4
HTH,
Bill

On May 14, 2005, at 1:53 PM, Murali Vadivelu wrote:


Dear Professor Scott,
Do you have these binaries and/ or specific instructions (if any/
required) in your web site?
Many thanks.
Yours sincerely,
Murali.
On 14 May 2005, at 07:52 pm, William Scott wrote:



Here's a screenshot of how it looks with the fink version of  
pymol.
The Pmw menu launches 5 times faster and looks nicer.

http://babyurl.com/pDCJhv/pymol_screenshot.png

On Sat, 14 May 2005, Murali Vadivelu wrote:



I think its a fantastic idea. I built R against the Tiger
version of
aqua-tcl/tk and used a tcl/tk package from inside R (called
RCommander). It works flawlessly! Its just fantastic. The output
graph from the package was displayed in another quartz window  
which
has to be opened from inside the R command line manually. Its a
good
work by the R team. They carbonized the binary using a single  
line
command from a command line tool included with the Developer  
tools.

On 14 May 2005, at 05:46 pm, William Scott wrote:



Hi citizens:
I noticed that 10.4 now comes with an aquafied TclTk framework.
For awhile now I had been manually installing this, and then
manually installing a framework build of Python.
With 10.4, this just became much easier, as the only thing
required
for me to build Python 2.4 was to configure enabling frameworks
and
then to issue make frameworkinstall.  To get python to use the
non-
fink TclTk by default, I just put prepended /usr/bin to my path
temporarily.  Afte

Re: [Fink-devel] Re: help testing new Installers

2005-05-16 Thread David R. Morrison
> drm: Does this mean the bindist contains a snapshot of this buggy file?

I'm afraid so.  I'll fix it before we officially release this (although my
travel schedule will delay the fix for a few days).

  -- Dave


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Re: [Fink-devel] pymol-py 0.98-1

2005-05-16 Thread Koen van der Drift
Jack,
Thanks for making the variants version of pymol. It builds fine here 
too (OS X 10.3.9). Not sure if you can remove the old pymol if you add 
a new package with a different name.

- Koen.
On May 16, 2005, at 12:09 PM, Jack Howarth wrote:
Dan,
   What else do I need to do to get the new variant version of
the pymol package (now pymol-py) into fink unstable?
 Jack
ps The pymol-py.info and pymol-py.patch files are both uploaded into
the fink package tracker. Note that these would both replace the
current pymol.info and pymol.patch. The pymol-py.info and the
resulting packages for pymol-py23 and pymol-py24  pass fink validate.
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