[Fink-devel] I'm planning to revert the X11 detection behavior to require /usr/X11R6 unless people object strongly
It looks like folks want to keep searching for X11 in /usr/X11R6 even though that has been out of vogue since 10.5. Fine. I’ve made /usr/X11R6 mandatory for a “working” X11 installation in a github branch. It previously had been set up for /usr/X11 to be mandatory. (Current fink-0.38.4 behavior is that /usr/X11 is mandatory on 10.7, and /opt/X11 is mandatory on 10.8+): Roll back allowing just /opt/X11 as sufficient for system-xfree86*. https://github.com/fink/fink/pull/118 an IRC transcript follows detailing the ramifications: akh member:akh: Since that’s VirtPackage.pm, there will be NO MESSAGE for users other than “Cannot find dependency x11-dev” from the dependency engine. [08:37am] akh member:akh: If we’re absolutely sure that we’re never going to do up our own X11 packages, the X11 virtuals could be tweaked to show up as available but not installed when X11 is missing rather than the current behavior of not showing up at all. Basically we’ll be going back to the previous behavior, but applied more consistently (previously some elements wanted /usr/X11, some wanted /usr/X11R6). -- Alexander Hansen, Ph.D. Fink User Liaison -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/___ Fink-devel mailing list Fink-devel@lists.sourceforge.net List archive: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.os.apple.fink.devel Subscription management: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Re: [Fink-devel] I'm planning to revert the X11 detection behavior to require /usr/X11R6 unless people object strongly
Alexander, What ever happened to the idea of expanding fink-buildenv-modules in order to provide intelligent setting environmentals to provide the X11 directory paths? If that ever landed in fink, I would be happy to switch my packages over to use those. Currently we simply don't have an easy way to know whether /opt/X11 is present short of adding case statements for OS X = 10.7 and = 10.8 to cover the transition from Apple X11 to Xquartz. Jack On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 at 11:45 AM, Alexander Hansen alexanderk.han...@gmail.com wrote: It looks like folks want to keep searching for X11 in /usr/X11R6 even though that has been out of vogue since 10.5. Fine. I’ve made /usr/X11R6 mandatory for a “working” X11 installation in a github branch. It previously had been set up for /usr/X11 to be mandatory. (Current fink-0.38.4 behavior is that /usr/X11 is mandatory on 10.7, and /opt/X11 is mandatory on 10.8+): Roll back allowing just /opt/X11 as sufficient for system-xfree86*. an IRC transcript follows detailing the ramifications: akh: Since that’s VirtPackage.pm, there will be NO MESSAGE for users other than “Cannot find dependency x11-dev” from the dependency engine. [08:37am] akh: If we’re absolutely sure that we’re never going to do up our own X11 packages, the X11 virtuals could be tweaked to show up as available but not installed when X11 is missing rather than the current behavior of not showing up at all. Basically we’ll be going back to the previous behavior, but applied more consistently (previously some elements wanted /usr/X11, some wanted /usr/X11R6). -- Alexander Hansen, Ph.D. Fink User Liaison -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/ ___ Fink-devel mailing list Fink-devel@lists.sourceforge.net List archive: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.os.apple.fink.devel Subscription management: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/ ___ Fink-devel mailing list Fink-devel@lists.sourceforge.net List archive: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.os.apple.fink.devel Subscription management: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Re: [Fink-devel] I'm planning to revert the X11 detection behavior to require /usr/X11R6 unless people object strongly
On 3/15/2015 12:19 PM, Jack Howarth wrote: Alexander, What ever happened to the idea of expanding fink-buildenv-modules in order to provide intelligent setting environmentals to provide the X11 directory paths? If that ever landed in fink, I would be happy to switch my packages over to use those. Currently we simply don't have an easy way to know whether /opt/X11 is present short of adding case statements for OS X = 10.7 and = 10.8 to cover the transition from Apple X11 to Xquartz. Jack Quoting when you last brought this up[1]: I am swamped with work. Please submit a pull request to my git repo. Use X11_INCLUDE_DIR and X11_LIBRARY_DIR as the variables since that makes them provider agnostic and they match up with what cmake uses. Unless we *don't* want to overlap with cmake's detection output variables. In that case, still, use X11_SOMETHING rather than XORG_SOMETHING. Hanspeter [1] http://article.gmane.org/gmane.os.apple.fink.devel/22708/ -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/ ___ Fink-devel mailing list Fink-devel@lists.sourceforge.net List archive: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.os.apple.fink.devel Subscription management: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Re: [Fink-devel] I'm planning to revert the X11 detection behavior to require /usr/X11R6 unless people object strongly
Here’s a CompileScript snippet that does this using the current fink-buildenv-modules. . fink-buildenv-helper.sh if [ $DARWIN_MAJOR_VERSION -gt 11 ] ; then ./configure %c --x-libraries=/opt/X11/lib --x-includes=/opt/X11/include else ./configure %c --x-libraries=/usr/X11/lib --x-includes=/usr/X11/include fi I agree that having this implemented in fink-buildenv-modules would be less error-prone, but I have no way to make Hanspeter’s work schedule more convenient. I can just submit a pull request, assuming my own work schedule ever lets me do anything. On Mar 15, 2015, at 10:19 AM, Jack Howarth howarth.at.f...@gmail.com wrote: Alexander, What ever happened to the idea of expanding fink-buildenv-modules in order to provide intelligent setting environmentals to provide the X11 directory paths? If that ever landed in fink, I would be happy to switch my packages over to use those. Currently we simply don't have an easy way to know whether /opt/X11 is present short of adding case statements for OS X = 10.7 and = 10.8 to cover the transition from Apple X11 to Xquartz. Jack On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 at 11:45 AM, Alexander Hansen alexanderk.han...@gmail.com wrote: It looks like folks want to keep searching for X11 in /usr/X11R6 even though that has been out of vogue since 10.5. Fine. I’ve made /usr/X11R6 mandatory for a “working” X11 installation in a github branch. It previously had been set up for /usr/X11 to be mandatory. (Current fink-0.38.4 behavior is that /usr/X11 is mandatory on 10.7, and /opt/X11 is mandatory on 10.8+): Roll back allowing just /opt/X11 as sufficient for system-xfree86*. an IRC transcript follows detailing the ramifications: akh: Since that’s VirtPackage.pm, there will be NO MESSAGE for users other than “Cannot find dependency x11-dev” from the dependency engine. [08:37am] akh: If we’re absolutely sure that we’re never going to do up our own X11 packages, the X11 virtuals could be tweaked to show up as available but not installed when X11 is missing rather than the current behavior of not showing up at all. Basically we’ll be going back to the previous behavior, but applied more consistently (previously some elements wanted /usr/X11, some wanted /usr/X11R6). -- Alexander Hansen, Ph.D. Fink User Liaison -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/ ___ Fink-devel mailing list Fink-devel@lists.sourceforge.net List archive: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.os.apple.fink.devel Subscription management: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/ ___ Fink-devel mailing list Fink-devel@lists.sourceforge.net List archive: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.os.apple.fink.devel Subscription management: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
