Re: [Fink-devel] xfree86 4.3 strategy

2003-03-01 Thread Michel Alexandre Salim
On Friday, February 28, 2003, at 04:36  pm, Hisashi T Fujinaka wrote:

On Fri, 28 Feb 2003, Jeff Whitaker wrote:

Folks:  Unless I hear objections, I'd like to commit these two
packages to unstable
xfree86-4.3.0-1.info (which builds the new "unified" xfree86 4.3 
package)

I've been using your 4.2.99 packages and the only problems I've had are
with compiling gtk+2 (and everything that requires gtk+2).
Probably it would be easier to try and compile GTK+2.2? Since that 
requires fontconfig/Xft2 which is included in XFree 4.3

A question I would have is - how well does it run compared to Apple's 
X11 0.2? as in, 3D acceleration-wise. I should be able to just have 
both installed, so I can still use quartz-wm, right?

Thanks,

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Re: [Fink-devel] PyGtk2 1.99.15 in package submission tracker

2003-03-01 Thread Michel Alexandre Salim
On Thursday, February 27, 2003, at 12:00  pm, mathias meyer wrote:

michel

me again. now i had actually some time at home to investigate a 
little. from what i've found:

- gtkglarea-1.99.0 is still the recent version. if i'm wrong here 
please feel free to point me to the new sources.
- gtkglarea-1.99.0 counts as version2 (so does pygtk-1.99.xx).
- pygtk-1.99.15 can use the existing gtkglarea2-1.99.0 package. i just 
untared pygtk-1.99.15 and ran ./configure. outcome:

checking for gtkgl-2.0 >= 1.99.0... yes

i hope this is what you were looking for. if i'm getting anything 
wrong here just tell me.

I'll take a look again when I have the time... thanks! It's probably 
just me not running configure automatically since I just had the 
'standard' (for Python) python setup.py build, python setup.py install.

Incidentally, a lot of the demos shipped with PyGtk2 seems to be for 
PyGtk1 - like the IDE example. I'll remove them from the next update.

Regards,

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[Fink-devel] PyGtk2 1.99.15 in package submission tracker

2003-02-26 Thread Michel Alexandre Salim
Hello,

I have just uploaded an info file for PyGTK 1.99.15 for GTK+2 into the  
package submission tracker, URL here:
http://sourceforge.net/tracker/ 
?func=detail&aid=693672&group_id=17203&atid=414256

(tracking number 693672).

It mostly works - apart from OpenGL since it requires gtkglarea >= 2.0  
and only 1.99 is in Fink, contacting the maintainer now; the IDE demo  
which requires gtk+extra (we only have the one for GTK+ 1.2 available)  
and if someone knows how to get Pango set-up properly under OS X/Fink  
I'd be grateful - the Pango demo works for all but the non-Roman  
characters.

Regards,

- Michel

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[Fink-devel] Section 3.3 and Depend: on a -dev package

2003-02-22 Thread Michel Alexandre Salim
Hello developers,

Masanori referred me to section 3.3 regarding this problem I have with 
building Gnome apps; basically headers are required to be contained in 
packages that are only in BuildDepends but not in Depends.

The problem is that building some Gnome packages require a lot of 
dependencies: for example, with gtetrinet2, its dependencies include:
- libgnomeui2-dev. libgnomeui2 depends on libbonoboui and any package 
depending on libgnomeui2-dev would in turn depend on libbonoboui-dev, 
but due to section 3.3 it would have to explicitly depend on 
libbonoboui-dev instead of the dependency being resolved by 
libgnomeui-dev

- libgnomecanvas2-dev and libart2
- libgnome2-dev and gnome-vfs-dev | gnome-vfs-ssl-dev
Some Gnome header files basically #include other header files, so they 
should be allow to depend on packages containing those header files - 
would it be possible to amend 3.3 to allow this?

Regards,

- Michel

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[Fink-devel] Package submission: pyobjc-0.8-2.info

2003-02-16 Thread Michel Alexandre Salim
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Hello,

I just uploaded pyobjc-0.8-2.info to the package submission tracker:
http://sourceforge.net/tracker/ 
index.php?func=detail&aid=687511&group_id=17203&atid=414256

I have not actually set out to learn Objective-C yet - something I'm  
reserving to do during the long Easter break - but all the example  
applications work so it might be useful to some people.

Version 0.8-1 never escaped into the wild - I missed out the README.OLD  
file that has instructions on how to add Project Builder support for  
Python, and the Project Builder templates.

Regards,

Michel Salim
- - ps I created the original Fink packaging for swi-prolog, could I be  
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[Fink-devel] gtk+2 and gtk-engines still depend on libpng

2003-02-12 Thread Michel Alexandre Salim
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Hi developers,
(ps sorry for the previous message that was sent accidentally 
subject-less)

I have been using a modified Gtk+2 build, set to depend on libpng3, to 
run ROX Filer and everything works fine - should the dependencies on 
gtk+2 and gtk-engines be changed to reflect the upgrade to libpng3?

Thanks Masanori for the good work :). The only thing I would like now 
is pango 1.1.2 but I understand it would have to wait for XFree 4.3 and 
fontconfig

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2003-02-12 Thread Michel Alexandre Salim
Hi developers,

I have been using a modified Gtk+2 build, set to depend on libpng3, to 
run ROX Filer and everything works fine - should the dependencies on 
gtk+2 and gtk-engines be changed to reflect the upgrade to libpng3?

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Re: [Fink-devel] OT (sort of): Help with a binary requiring alibrary

2003-01-13 Thread Michel Alexandre Salim
On Mon, 2003-01-13 at 14:30, Jared wrote:
[snip]
> I tried something like that before, where I made my root "/" and then 
> made myself a tree with usr/sbin/hotwayd and etc/xinetd.d/hotwayd as 
> files to be installed. Well, it ended up wiping out my symlink of /etc 
> and replacing it with an actual directory, /etc/ with only one file in 
> it (xinetd.d) and one file inside that. Luckily, it was unable to wipe 
> out /usr because I mistakenly forgot to give it root privileges 
> (difference between root and admin wasn't clear at the time). Do you 
> think if I had given it root privileges that it would have installed 
> *in* /etc and *in* /usr or would it have gone overboard and trashed 
> /usr as well?
> 
Well-behaved Unix apps are passed their final install location using
./configure --prefix (so you can have, say, ./configure
--prefix=/usr/local or /sw for example) but for installation and/or
packaging the install target is then overriden, so the installation is
done using e.g. 'make install DESTDIR=/tmp/package' . Best way is to
examine the configure and Makefile scripts, and there are tons of RPM
spec and Fink info files you can examine to see how other packagers do
things.

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Re: [Fink-devel] my first post to the x11 mailing list, and updatefor Fink FAQ

2003-01-09 Thread Michel Alexandre Salim
On Wed, 2003-01-08 at 23:18, Randal L. Schwartz wrote:

> Where's the one that launches only quartz-wm and a single xterm?
Hidden inside the app bundle perhaps? But since having your personal
~/.xinitrc overrides it, there is not much problem I suppose..

Sorry can't be more helpful, still waiting for my notebook to arrive...

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[Fink-devel] I'm back! (Almost)

2003-01-07 Thread Michel Alexandre Salim
Greetings Fink packagers,

It's been 9 months since I left Fink after selling my iBook (terrible
video encoding performance without G4), but after today's Macworld Expo,
I just placed my order for the new 12" PBook!

Fink has advanced quite a bit since I left - KDE is finally ported, and
Evolution etc. - wow! Thanks to Sylvain for taking over SWI Prolog too.

Damn.. it's good to be back. Another 2-4 weeks until the new machine
arrives... Has anything much changed on the technical/admin front?

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