Re: [Fink-devel] mesa and mesa-libglw

2008-04-15 Thread Jean-François Mertens
On 15 Apr 2008, at 15:40, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Dear Jack,

 I do not want to have a full mesa package. We can still make mesa- 
 libglw a split off of mesa, if you want to; and keep mesa-libglw  
 linking to the system GL (providing hardware acceleration).

 I just proposed additional changes to the naming conventions and  
 possibly having also a full mesa package just to go with my  
 proposed changes to the naming conventions, i.e.,
   1. why call it mesa-libglw while linking to system GL? Shall we  
 call it libglw* instead?
   2. Can we also have a mesa-libglw linking to mesa GL, just for the  
 sake of completion and be consistent in the naming as I proposed  
 earlier.

 Hope I have made it clear. Please let me know what you want to do  
 with mesa and mesa-libglw, even if it is just carrying like it is now.

 Many thanks.

 Best regards,
 Murali.


Those seems reasonable questions, and put very nicely.
The reply came in the form of the following msg to fink-devel..

On 15 Apr 2008, at 15:51, Jack Howarth wrote:
Murali has asked me to help create a mesa
 package with libglw splitoff that builds against
 the system libGL. I am puzzled as to why we really
 want to have a complete mesa package in fink.
 Such a package will obviously use software
 rendering and thus be an order of magnitude
 slower than the system libGL which uses
 direct rendering.
 I have asked the X.org developers and they
 do intend to port the X.org X11 Leopard packages
 to build using Mesa 7 at some point (with
 modifications to properly use direct rendering).
 It would seem better to wait for that (as a
 replacement of the MacOS X X11) than to
 downgrade the performance of OpenGL with
 software rendering.
   Jack

This seems to misunderstand the original request
of a bit of coordination between the maintainers of
those 2 pkgs (which have the same source).

Besides, we can't wait _ we have a mesa pkg, and there are pkgs
needing and using it now; further it provides libs (like libOSMesa)
that xorg doesn't. And there is no reason to downgrade performance
_ any pkg uses the libs it wants (or needs..)

I am sure you both can coordinate those pkgs via private e-mail..

JF Mertens


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Re: [Fink-devel] mesa and mesa-libglw

2008-04-15 Thread Jack Howarth
JF,
  What packages depend on Mesa? If I do...

cd /sw/fink/10.5/unstable/main
grep -R esa  finkinfo | grep Depends

I only see...

finkinfo/sci/molmol.info:Depends: x11, freeglut-shlibs, openmotif3-shlibs, 
libtiff-shlibs, libjpeg-shlibs, libpng3-shlibs, mesa-libglw-shlibs
finkinfo/sci/molmol.info:BuildDepends: freeglut, openmotif3-shlibs, openmotif3, 
libtiff, libjpeg, libpng3, x11-dev, mesa-libglw

 Jack

On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 06:34:00PM +0200, Jean-François Mertens wrote:

 This seems to misunderstand the original request
 of a bit of coordination between the maintainers of
 those 2 pkgs (which have the same source).

 Besides, we can't wait _ we have a mesa pkg, and there are pkgs
 needing and using it now; further it provides libs (like libOSMesa)
 that xorg doesn't. And there is no reason to downgrade performance
 _ any pkg uses the libs it wants (or needs..)

 I am sure you both can coordinate those pkgs via private e-mail..

 JF Mertens

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Re: [Fink-devel] mesa and mesa-libglw

2008-04-15 Thread Jean-François Mertens

On 15 Apr 2008, at 20:20, Jack Howarth wrote:
 JF,
   What packages depend on Mesa? If I do...

 cd /sw/fink/10.5/unstable/main
 grep -R esa  finkinfo | grep Depends

 I only see...

 finkinfo/sci/molmol.info:Depends: x11, freeglut-shlibs, openmotif3- 
 shlibs, libtiff-shlibs, libjpeg-shlibs, libpng3-shlibs, mesa-libglw- 
 shlibs
 finkinfo/sci/molmol.info:BuildDepends: freeglut, openmotif3-shlibs,  
 openmotif3, libtiff, libjpeg, libpng3, x11-dev, mesa-libglw

But if you look also in crypto, you will find wine.info  :)

JF

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