Re: [Fink-devel] native GTK+

2007-12-25 Thread TheSin
OH, it's gtk maintained, okay I'll look into it and report back.
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On 25-Dec-07, at 12:45 AM, Alexey Zakhlestin wrote:

> On 12/24/07, TheSin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> well i'm not sure what version of GTK+OSX, I just built 0.7 for intel
>> 10.5 which took me about an hour and lots of little code changes,  
>> then
>> I built gq, and it displays but nothing works, so unless there is a
>> newer version I think it's useless.
>
> From what I understood, one should just build using normal 2.12  
> distribution
>
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Re: [Fink-devel] native GTK+

2007-12-24 Thread Alexey Zakhlestin
On 12/24/07, TheSin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> well i'm not sure what version of GTK+OSX, I just built 0.7 for intel
> 10.5 which took me about an hour and lots of little code changes, then
> I built gq, and it displays but nothing works, so unless there is a
> newer version I think it's useless.

>From what I understood, one should just build using normal 2.12 distribution

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Re: [Fink-devel] native GTK+

2007-12-24 Thread TheSin
well i'm not sure what version of GTK+OSX, I just built 0.7 for intel  
10.5 which took me about an hour and lots of little code changes, then  
I built gq, and it displays but nothing works, so unless there is a  
newer version I think it's useless.
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On 24-Dec-07, at 10:46 AM, Daniel Macks wrote:

> On Mon, Dec 24, 2007 at 01:27:54AM +0300, Alexey Zakhlestin wrote:
>> Sounds like good news!
>>
>> http://developer.imendio.com/node/184
>
> Yes. Native GTK has long been doable actually, and patches to bugs in
> that arena (the Quartz back-end of gtk and related libs) are quite
> well received upstream, suggesting that this is an important target
> platform (at least to some of the devels:) there.
>
> At one time, there was a fork of some of fink's package collection
> that was adjusted to use native aqua gtk. Note that this will always
> be completely independent set of libraries (a whole parallel gtk
> world), incompatible and not mix'n'match or drop-in replacement for
> the exiting x11-based gnome world.
>
>
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Re: [Fink-devel] native GTK+

2007-12-24 Thread Martin Costabel
Alexey Zakhlestin wrote:
> On 12/24/07, Alexander Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> independent set of libraries: yes but gtk-apps should be easily
>>> linked against both, shouldn't they? :)
>>>
>> If you mean "both" in the sense of "separate Aqua and X11 packages",
>> then possibly--the details depend on what the package wants.
> 
> I mean majority of small-to-medium tools which use only gtk+ and glib stuff.
> Of course, there are some which directly depend on X11, and I
> understand that it's not possible to change them

Of course all this is moot until Fink makes the move to 2.12.x, that is, 
  until the pangocairo branch sees the light of the day.

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Re: [Fink-devel] native GTK+

2007-12-24 Thread Alexey Zakhlestin
On 12/24/07, Alexander Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > independent set of libraries: yes but gtk-apps should be easily
> > linked against both, shouldn't they? :)
> >
>
> If you mean "both" in the sense of "separate Aqua and X11 packages",
> then possibly--the details depend on what the package wants.

I mean majority of small-to-medium tools which use only gtk+ and glib stuff.
Of course, there are some which directly depend on X11, and I
understand that it's not possible to change them

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Re: [Fink-devel] native GTK+

2007-12-24 Thread Alexander Hansen
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Alexey Zakhlestin wrote:
> On 12/24/07, Daniel Macks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On Mon, Dec 24, 2007 at 01:27:54AM +0300, Alexey Zakhlestin
>> wrote:
>>> Sounds like good news!
>>>
>>> http://developer.imendio.com/node/184
>> Yes. Native GTK has long been doable actually, and patches to
>> bugs in that arena (the Quartz back-end of gtk and related libs)
>> are quite well received upstream, suggesting that this is an
>> important target platform (at least to some of the devels:)
>> there.
>>
>> At one time, there was a fork of some of fink's package
>> collection that was adjusted to use native aqua gtk. Note that
>> this will always be completely independent set of libraries (a
>> whole parallel gtk world), incompatible and not mix'n'match or
>> drop-in replacement for the exiting x11-based gnome world.
>
> independent set of libraries: yes but gtk-apps should be easily
> linked against both, shouldn't they? :)
>

If you mean "both" in the sense of "separate Aqua and X11 packages",
then possibly--the details depend on what the package wants.
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Re: [Fink-devel] native GTK+

2007-12-24 Thread Alexey Zakhlestin
On 12/24/07, Daniel Macks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 24, 2007 at 01:27:54AM +0300, Alexey Zakhlestin wrote:
> > Sounds like good news!
> >
> > http://developer.imendio.com/node/184
>
> Yes. Native GTK has long been doable actually, and patches to bugs in
> that arena (the Quartz back-end of gtk and related libs) are quite
> well received upstream, suggesting that this is an important target
> platform (at least to some of the devels:) there.
>
> At one time, there was a fork of some of fink's package collection
> that was adjusted to use native aqua gtk. Note that this will always
> be completely independent set of libraries (a whole parallel gtk
> world), incompatible and not mix'n'match or drop-in replacement for
> the exiting x11-based gnome world.

independent set of libraries: yes
but gtk-apps should be easily linked against both, shouldn't they? :)

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Re: [Fink-devel] native GTK+

2007-12-24 Thread Daniel Macks
On Mon, Dec 24, 2007 at 01:27:54AM +0300, Alexey Zakhlestin wrote:
> Sounds like good news!
> 
> http://developer.imendio.com/node/184

Yes. Native GTK has long been doable actually, and patches to bugs in
that arena (the Quartz back-end of gtk and related libs) are quite
well received upstream, suggesting that this is an important target
platform (at least to some of the devels:) there.

At one time, there was a fork of some of fink's package collection
that was adjusted to use native aqua gtk. Note that this will always
be completely independent set of libraries (a whole parallel gtk
world), incompatible and not mix'n'match or drop-in replacement for
the exiting x11-based gnome world.


dan

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