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[gaspode . wunderhund]

Hello!

I have problems doing a 'sudo fink selfupdate-cvs' over Airport.

The connection just times out.

But internet connection is fine and I can also ping internet adresses from
the shell.

I use T-Online, so no proxy is required.

The computer is connected to another Mac with another Airport card sharing
the internet connection.

Both Mac OS X 10.2.3 on both Macs.

When I connect the Mac directly to my DSL modem (PPoE) everything works
fine.

I already switched to wget and back to curl. Nothing changed.

Any hints?



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Re: [Fink-users] Re: Deciding which X is running...

[Aaron Magill]

On Saturday, January 11, 2003, at 01:43  AM, Michèle Garoche wrote:


Obviously, choose the window manager you wish to use in both.  This 
seems to work for me, though I wonder why the display var is set to 
:0 and :1 as opposed to :0.0 and :1.0, as they are once an x 
application is running...
Because if you want to run X11 and XDarwin at the same time you cannot 
use the same server, so one use display 0, the other display 1. By 
default, if no display is specified, display 0 is used. To run both 
app side by side you have to change the default for one application. 
For example for XDarwin with:


Sorry, if my question wasn't clear... I understand that each must have 
a different base display number... what surprised me was that when the 
.xinitrc script is run, the display environment variable contains the 
base number only and not the window number portion as well (:0 as 
opposed to :0.0, :1 as opposed to :1.0)... and maybe that's the answer 
to my question?  The .xinitrc file is executed before the number of 
monitors for each display is determined?

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Re: [Fink-users] OpenMotif instead of lesstif

[David R. Morrison]

On Jan 10,2003 22:53:01 -0600, M. Brooks Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote :
>If I want to install openmotif instead of lesstif, how do I convince fink
>packages that are dependent on lesstif should be ok with openmotif? For
>example, when I try to rebuild nedit with openmotif installed, it insists on
>installing lesstif and lesstif-shlibs.
>
>Do I need to edit the individual .info files, or is there an easier way?
>
>

openmotif and lesstif are implementing different versions of the motif
libraries.  For this reason, you cannot switch the dependencies of other
packages which depend on them.

The openmotif-shlibs and lesstif-shlibs packages will coexist just fine, and
provide the needed dynamic libraries for both kinds of packages.

When you compile things, fink will switch between openmotif and lesstif as
needed, automatically.

The only thing you cannot do is issue a single fink command to compile several
packages, some of which depend on openmotif and others of which depend on
lesstif.  You'll have to compile things in two groups.

  -- Dave






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[Fink-users] java plugin for Mozilla ??

[Irene Tosetti]

hi everybody :-)

i'd like to install a Java plugin for Mozilla in X11, but I have no idea how to do it. can anybody please help me out?

thanks in advance

Irene
Torino, Italy

Re: [Fink-users] Re: Deciding which X is running...

[Michèle Garoche]

Le samedi, 11 jan 2003, à 15:26 Europe/Paris, Aaron Magill a écrit :



On Saturday, January 11, 2003, at 01:43  AM, Michèle Garoche wrote:


Obviously, choose the window manager you wish to use in both.  This 
seems to work for me, though I wonder why the display var is set to 
:0 and :1 as opposed to :0.0 and :1.0, as they are once an x 
application is running...
Because if you want to run X11 and XDarwin at the same time you 
cannot use the same server, so one use display 0, the other display 
1. By default, if no display is specified, display 0 is used. To run 
both app side by side you have to change the default for one 
application. For example for XDarwin with:


Sorry, if my question wasn't clear... I understand that each must have 
a different base display number... what surprised me was that when the 
.xinitrc script is run, the display environment variable contains the 
base number only and not the window number portion as well (:0 as 
opposed to :0.0, :1 as opposed to :1.0)... and maybe that's the answer 
to my question?  The .xinitrc file is executed before the number of 
monitors for each display is determined?
Maybe, it would be clearer for you if you consider the display as a 
port, the client should connect to. So the port has an address of the 
form hostname.displaynumber.screennumber.

The second 0 you in :0.0 is the screen number, the first is the 
displaynumber.

Quoted from X man page:

From the user's perspective, every X server has a display name of the 
form:

hostname:displaynumber.screennumber

This information is used by the application to determine how it should 
connect to the server and which screen it should use by default (on 
displays with multiple monitors):

hostname
The hostname specifies the name of the machine to which the display is 
physically connected. If the hostname is not given, the most efficient 
way of communicating to a server on the same machine will be used.

displaynumber
The phrase 
display is usually used to refer to collection of monitors 
that share a common keyboard and pointer (mouse, tablet, etc.). Most 
workstations tend to only have one keyboard, and therefore, only one 
display. Larger, multi-user systems, however, frequently have several 
displays so that more than one person can be doing graphics work at 
once. To avoid confusion, each display on a machine is assigned a 
display number (beginning at 0) when the X server for that display is 
started. The display number must always be given in a display name.

screennumber
Some displays share a single keyboard and pointer among two or more 
monitors. Since each monitor has its own set of windows, each screen is 
assigned a screen number (beginning at 0) when the X server for that 
display is started. If the screen number is not given, screen 0 will be 
used.

See also xinit, Xserver ans startx.

Michèle




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[Fink-users] Other users have trouble starting Apple X11 from console

[William Scott]

Hi:

On 3 machines that have multiple user accounts, my other users can't start Apple X11; only the user that installed it can start it up.

I figured out that before logging out if you manually delete the following file and directory, you can then log in as another user and then that person is able to run X11. 

The X11 session creates a file and a directory with another file in /tmp, i.e.,

.X0-lock
.X11-unix/

If you delete these files manually before logging out, then X11 can be started with another user's account, and it all then works fine.

I am afraid I don't know how to tell Apple OS X to do delete these automatically upon logging out (/etc/csh.logout was wrong).

Thanks in advance for any advice on how to do this automatically, or other ways to cure this problem.

Bill Scott

[Fink-users] multiple users

[William Scott]

Dear Martin:

Thanks for the reply.  But the problem is that these files in my case 
are created by the individual users, not root (which is BTW enabled).  
Hence the problem.

-r--r--r--   1 wgscott  wheel  11 Jan 11 12:24 .X0-lock
drwxrwxrwt   3 wgscott  wheel 102 Jan 11 12:24 .X11-unix/

I have absolutely no idea why in my case they would would have my own 
user name instead.Any suggestions for how to fix it?

Thanks.


William G. Scott

Associate Professor
Department of Chemistry and Biochemistry
and The Center for the Molecular Biology of RNA
Sinsheimer Laboratories
University of California at Santa Cruz
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[Fink-users] gnome sound

[Stan Sanderson]

I haven't seen this come up, and perhaps we need a breather from all 
the x11 traffic-

I'm running 10.2.3 w/ink-cvs and all updates up-to-date. After 
upgrading to Jaguar, I am unable to reliably use sound with Gnome. 
Within 2 or 3 startups of the Gnome desktop after "restoring mixer 
levels," Gnome becomes unusable. The only "cure" is to trash my .gnome 
directory.

Any clues?

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Re: [Fink-users] multiple users

[Martin Costabel]

William Scott wrote:

Dear Martin:

Thanks for the reply.  But the problem is that these files in my case 
are created by the individual users, not root (which is BTW enabled).  
Hence the problem.

-r--r--r--   1 wgscott  wheel  11 Jan 11 12:24 .X0-lock
drwxrwxrwt   3 wgscott  wheel 102 Jan 11 12:24 .X11-unix/

But still, this shouldn't matter. The fact that .X11-unix is not owned 
by root usually gives a mild warning when the X server is started.
The important thing is that the files .X0-lock and .X11-unix/X0 get 
removed when you quit X11. That they are not removed in your case must 
have some other strange reason, it is not normal. I have seen a lot of 
bugs with the new X11, but not this one.

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[Fink-users] fink xemacs not working with X11?

[Artemio Gonzalez-Lopez]

I can't get fink's xemacs 21.5.9-3 (the latest unstable release) to 
work with Apple's X11.
It spectacularly crashes with a segmentation fault error after 
complaining that

_XF86BigfontQueryFont: could not attach shm segment

I've tried to recompile it throuhg "fink rebuild xemacs", but this 
fails after a while
complaining that it can't find the athena widgets:

configure: warning: Could not find a 3d Athena widget library that 
looked like Xaw3d.
checking for X11/Xaw3d/XawInit.h... yes
checking for X11/Xaw3d/ThreeD.h... yes
checking for Xm/Xm.h... no
Error: Could not find a suitable Athena library to build with.
### execution of ./configure failed, exit code 1
Failed: compiling xemacs-21.5.9-3 failed

However, "fink list xaw" produces the following output:

 i   xaw3d  1.5-5Athena widget set with 3D 
look
 i   xaw3d-shlibs   1.5-5Athena widget set with 3D 
look

Has anybody had this problem? Any help would be appreciated!

P.S. I removed xfree86 following the instructions on fink's website, 
then installed
X11 (User and SDK), and after that installed system-xfree86 4.2.3. Most
other fink apps (like the Gimp) work perfectly with X11 ...

Artemio Gonzalez-Lopez
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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Re: [Fink-users] fink xemacs not working with X11?

[June Van Dyke]

On 1/11/03 6:18 PM, "Artemio Gonzalez-Lopez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Has anybody had this problem? Any help would be appreciated!
> 
> P.S. I removed xfree86 following the instructions on fink's website,
> then installed
> X11 (User and SDK), and after that installed system-xfree86 4.2.3. Most
> other fink apps (like the Gimp) work perfectly with X11 ...

IIRC, you need to reinstall xaw3d (fink reinstall xaw3d xaw3d-shlibs) since
it stores its stuff outside of /sw.
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Re: [Fink-users] fink xemacs not working with X11?

[Alexander Hansen]

Actually, xaw3d-1.5-5 puts its under /sw (I believe this is the first
version to do so).

On Sat, 2003-01-11 at 18:42, June Van Dyke wrote:
> On 1/11/03 6:18 PM, "Artemio Gonzalez-Lopez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Has anybody had this problem? Any help would be appreciated!
> > 
> > P.S. I removed xfree86 following the instructions on fink's website,
> > then installed
> > X11 (User and SDK), and after that installed system-xfree86 4.2.3. Most
> > other fink apps (like the Gimp) work perfectly with X11 ...
> 
> IIRC, you need to reinstall xaw3d (fink reinstall xaw3d xaw3d-shlibs) since
> it stores its stuff outside of /sw.
> -- 
> 
> -- sinclair44
> 
> "I'm a doctor, not a mechanic."
> -- "The Doomsday Machine", when asked if he had heard of
>the idea of a doomsday machine.
> "I'm a doctor, not an escalator."
> -- "Friday's Child", when asked to help the very pregnant
>Ellen up a steep incline.
> "I'm a doctor, not a bricklayer."
> -- Devil in the Dark", when asked to patch up the Horta.
> "I'm a doctor, not an engineer."
> -- "Mirror, Mirror", when asked by Scotty for help in
>Engineering aboard the ISS Enterprise.
> "I'm a doctor, not a coalminer."
> -- "The Empath", on being beneath the surface of Minara 2.
> 
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Re: [Fink-users] fink xemacs not working with X11?

[Alexander Hansen]

Xm.h is from lesstif.

On Sat, 2003-01-11 at 18:18, Artemio Gonzalez-Lopez wrote:
> I can't get fink's xemacs 21.5.9-3 (the latest unstable release) to 
> work with Apple's X11.
> It spectacularly crashes with a segmentation fault error after 
> complaining that
> 
> _XF86BigfontQueryFont: could not attach shm segment
> 
> I've tried to recompile it throuhg "fink rebuild xemacs", but this 
> fails after a while
> complaining that it can't find the athena widgets:
> 
> configure: warning: Could not find a 3d Athena widget library that 
> looked like Xaw3d.
> checking for X11/Xaw3d/XawInit.h... yes
> checking for X11/Xaw3d/ThreeD.h... yes
> checking for Xm/Xm.h... no
> Error: Could not find a suitable Athena library to build with.
> ### execution of ./configure failed, exit code 1
> Failed: compiling xemacs-21.5.9-3 failed
> 
> However, "fink list xaw" produces the following output:
> 
>   i   xaw3d  1.5-5Athena widget set with 3D 
> look
>   i   xaw3d-shlibs   1.5-5Athena widget set with 3D 
> look
> 
> Has anybody had this problem? Any help would be appreciated!
> 
> P.S. I removed xfree86 following the instructions on fink's website, 
> then installed
> X11 (User and SDK), and after that installed system-xfree86 4.2.3. Most
> other fink apps (like the Gimp) work perfectly with X11 ...
> 
> Artemio Gonzalez-Lopez
> e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 
> Artemio Gonzalez-Lopez
> Depto. Fisica Teorica II
> Universidad Complutense
> 28040 Madrid, SPAIN
> 
> Phone: +34 913944596
> Fax:  +34 913944557
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Re: [Fink-users] fink xemacs not working with X11?

[Martin Costabel]

June Van Dyke wrote:


IIRC, you need to reinstall xaw3d (fink reinstall xaw3d xaw3d-shlibs) since
it stores its stuff outside of /sw.


This is no longer true with the latest versions of the xaw3d package. It 
installs in /sw now. In fact, the Xaw3d header files are found:

Artemio Gonzalez-Lopez wrote:

configure: warning: Could not find a 3d Athena widget library that looked like Xaw3d.
checking for X11/Xaw3d/XawInit.h... yes
checking for X11/Xaw3d/ThreeD.h... yes
checking for Xm/Xm.h... no
Error: Could not find a suitable Athena library to build with.


Xm/Xm.h comes from lesstif, but this is not necessary. I think the 
problem is already there after the first "warning". Instead of "Could 
not find..." it should have said

checking for the Athena widgets
checking for threeDClassRec in -lXaw3d... yes

It would be interesting to see the corresponding output in the 
config.log file. Maybe it's not /sw/lib/libXaw3d.dylib that is at fault, 
but some of the /usr/X11/lib/libX*.dylibs it depends upon.

Also the segmentation fault could give some hints. It is not the

> _XF86BigfontQueryFont: could not attach shm segment

that is causing this. This message has always been there for 
xemacs-21.5.9. Is there a crash log?

BTW, I run xemacs-21.5.9-3 on Apple's X11 without problems.

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[Fink-users] xfree86-base fail (Sanjay Connare)

[ATMRD]

Hello,
 I recently tried installing the xfree86-base with fink, this was before apple released their x11 server.    
% fink install xfree86-base
sudo /sw/bin/fink   install xfree86-base
Password:
Information about 874 packages read in 2 seconds.

pkg xfree86-base   version ###
pkg xfree86-base   version 4.2.1.1-3
The following package will be installed or updated:
 xfree86-base
The following additional package will be installed:
 xfree86-base-shlibs
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] 

Fink then does it think, with the compiling and what not but when it gets to the install part, the following error occurs. 

mv /sw/src/root-xfree86-base-4.2.1.1-3/Applications /sw/src/root-xfree86-rootless-4.2.1.1-3/
mv: rename /sw/src/root-xfree86-base-4.2.1.1-3/Applications to /sw/src/root-xfree86-rootless-4.2.1.1-3//Applications: No such file or directory
### execution of mv failed, exit code 1
Failed: installing xfree86-rootless-4.2.1.1-3 failed

I am not sure why this is occurring, however, to see if it was just an error with the package, I have the latest binary release of fink version 0.5.0a, and am wondering, what I should do now.   Should I try a different method of installing xfree86-base, or just give up entirely and install Apple's X11 instead? Thanks.

~Sanjay

[Fink-users] xjig-2.4-1

[Thom Peters II]

Sorry to say, xjig seems to crash with a Segmentation fault.  It built 
fine, and I did complete a very small puzzle (though it had odd 
shapes).  But the other times I tried larger images (with regular 
shapes), I could get several pieces together and then about half way 
through it produces a segmentation fault.

I'm using pure Apple X11 and I installed xjig afterwards.  I did have 
the threaded Xfree from fink for a short time before, but everything 
was compiled against a non-threaded version before that, except I had a 
few packages updated during that time which might have been compiled 
against the threaded.  I wish I had some sort of record of what got 
updated and what order, but I didn't write that down at the time, and 
the list of packages usually flies off the screen anyways if fink 
doesn't have to install additional packages during an update.

I haven't been able to get to a home page about xjig to find out if 
this is expected behavior for certain circumstances.  I really have no 
idea why it crashes, but I do have two crash logs recorded by 
Console.app if that would help.

Thom

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Re: [Fink-users] xfree86-base fail (Sanjay Connare)

[Kow K]

The current version of xfree86-base is 4.2.1.1-4. So, you'll need to update fink with "fink selfupdate" or "fink selfupdate-cvs" if you're accessing CVS tree.

If you want to Apple's X11, follow instructions on Fink web page carefully. In particular, you need to install BOTH Users AND SKD packages.

Apple's X11 is a public beta, and unfortunatley it's suffering from a number of problems that XDarwin has already solved, especially keymapping problems with international keyboards. If you value stability and predictability more than performance -- yes, it runs very fast, with OpenGL, Quartz Extreme support --, XDarwin would be a better choice.

Hope this helps.

Kow

On Saturday, January 11, 2003, at 06:10 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hello,
 I recently tried installing the xfree86-base with fink, this was before apple released their x11 server.  
% fink install xfree86-base
sudo /sw/bin/fink  install xfree86-base
Password:
Information about 874 packages read in 2 seconds.

pkg xfree86-base  version ###
pkg xfree86-base  version 4.2.1.1-3
The following package will be installed or updated:
xfree86-base
The following additional package will be installed:
xfree86-base-shlibs
Do you want to continue? [Y/n]

Fink then does it think, with the compiling and what not but when it gets to the install part, the following error occurs.

mv /sw/src/root-xfree86-base-4.2.1.1-3/Applications /sw/src/root-xfree86-rootless-4.2.1.1-3/
mv: rename /sw/src/root-xfree86-base-4.2.1.1-3/Applications to /sw/src/root-xfree86-rootless-4.2.1.1-3//Applications: No such file or directory
### execution of mv failed, exit code 1
Failed: installing xfree86-rootless-4.2.1.1-3 failed

I am not sure why this is occurring, however, to see if it was just an error with the package, I have the latest binary release of fink version 0.5.0a, and am wondering, what I should do now.  Should I try a different method of installing xfree86-base, or just give up entirely and install Apple's X11 instead? Thanks.

~Sanjay

Re: [Fink-users] exactly what needs to be rebuilt? (part two)

[lenny bruce]

On Friday, January 10, 2003, at 11:35  AM, Alexander Hansen wrote:

It looks like those symbols come from libglut.3.7.dylib (on my system),
which is installed by the glut-shlibs package.  Try rebuilding
glut-shlibs


okay, try this one:


bash-2.05a$ glxgears
dyld: glxgears Undefined symbols:
OpenGL undefined reference to _gll_noop expected to be defined in 
/usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.1.2.dylib
OpenGL undefined reference to _gll_pkey expected to be defined in 
/usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.1.2.dylib
Trace/BPT trap



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[Fink-users] RE: apple's X11 and Ximian Evolution

[rand]

Steve, I have just successfully installed Evolution on 10.2.3 running Apples
X11.app.  
Was the previous version of xfree86 the treaded one?
Did you remove it completely before using apples version?

When I did this it was a clean install of fink, I have only installed apples
X11, the sdk for this, fink and finkcommander,  and two other apps, etheral
and nmap.  I actually have the entire directory available for download as
one large tarball as some of my friends wanted to try evolution and I
suggested not having them compile all the packages again.  If you wish I
could give you the url to download this, but mind that it is a tar file of
599.9mb :)

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Re: [Fink-users] exactly what needs to be rebuilt? (part two)

[Martin Costabel]

lenny bruce wrote:

On Friday, January 10, 2003, at 11:35  AM, Alexander Hansen wrote:


It looks like those symbols come from libglut.3.7.dylib (on my system),


I don't think this is true. At least in my copy of libglut, these 
symbols are referenced, but undefined (look at libglut.dylib with nm).
They are defined in libGL.

What happened is that in Apple's X11, these symbols have been removed 
from /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.dylib where they are defined in the case of 
standard xfree86. They are now taken from 
/System/Library/Frameworks/OpenGL.framework/Versions/A/Libraries/libGL.dylib

This introduces an incompatibility with binaries that have been compiled 
with other versions of xfree86.

OTOH, I still don't understand why Lenny is getting these undefined 
symbols. You must have your own homegrown versions of xmms and glxgears. 
On my system, neither /sw/bin/xmms nor /usr/X11R6/bin/glxgears reference 
any of the symbols yours are complaining about.

okay, try this one:


bash-2.05a$ glxgears
dyld: glxgears Undefined symbols:
OpenGL undefined reference to _gll_noop expected to be defined in 
/usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.1.2.dylib
OpenGL undefined reference to _gll_pkey expected to be defined in 
/usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.1.2.dylib
Trace/BPT trap

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Re: [Fink-users] xfree86-base fail (Sanjay Connare)

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mv /sw/src/root-xfree86-base-4.2.1.1-3/Applications 
/sw/src/root-xfree86-rootless-4.2.1.1-3/
mv: rename /sw/src/root-xfree86-base-4.2.1.1-3/Applications to 
/sw/src/root-xfree86-rootless-4.2.1.1-3//Applications: No such file or 
directory

This has been seen before. It means that the Applications folder with 
its contents, namely XDarwin.app, was not created earlier in the 
compilation process. This may be a problem with your developer tools, in 
particular ProjectBuilder. What do you get from "what 
/usr/bin/pbxbuild"? Mine says

/usr/bin/pbxbuild
PROGRAM:pbxbuild  PROJECT:pbxbase-112  DEVELOPER:root 
BUILT:12/04/02 20:31:50

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