[Fink-users] re: MacOS X11 vs Fink X11

[Franco Quaranta]

I uninstalled Apple SDK without problems: it seems useless with Xfree86.
Francesco

On Tue, 1 Jun 2004 21:33:18 -0700, William Scott wrote:
> the fact that the user has to know to install separately the ~4MB SDK 
>package, which doesn't install by default.


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[Fink-users] re: MacOS X11 vs Fink X11

[William Scott]

Hi Perry:
I've never encountered an instability with Applex X11.app, so I can't 
comment on that, but there also exist some advantages (apart from 
convenience), depending upon your needs.

In my case the most important advantage is the quartz acceleration of 
the (proprietary) window manager.  For complicated molecular graphics 
displays (pymol, molmol, etc), the non-quartz versions are so slow on 
my G4s that they are essentially unusable, whereas the X11.app quartz 
acceleration makes them almost indistinguishable from true native OS X 
graphics display programs.

I think there are two disadvantages.  The first is that it is 
proprietary, so free software purists will object.  But free software 
purists most likely run GNU-Linux or freeBSD or similar rather than OS 
X.  The other is the fact that the user has to know to install 
separately the ~4MB SDK package, which doesn't install by default.  I 
think most of the problems people have with fink trying to install its 
own X11 derives from the perverse separation of X11 into a 50MB package 
and a 4 MB package, as if installing a 54 MB package would somehow 
inconvenience some users.  If fink could be made to detect the presence 
of /Applications/Utilities/X11.app and the absence of header files and 
somehow warn the user to install manually the SDK, or better yet, 
somehow offer to install it from the on-line download, it might go 
smoother.

Bill Scott

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Re: [Fink-users] Problem compiling gnumeric

[Stefano]

On Tue, 1 Jun 2004, Stan Sanderson wrote:
Stefano-
Please let the list know if you are able to print from gnumeric, and if so, 
how.

Stan
No, I am not able to print from gnumeric. I get a message "No visible 
output created" in Print Preview and a bunch of messages like this

(gnumeric:5546): GnomePrint-CRITICAL **: file gnome-font.c: line 290 
(gnome_font_find_closest): assertion `face != NULL' failed

in the terminal.
Sorry...
Stefano
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[Fink-users] RE: Can't install gtk+2

[Justin Goeres]

Pierre,

I believe I was having a few weeks ago an identical problem to yours.  I
found some help in various webpages, and finally solved it.  I'm concerned
that my method is not exactly appropriate, though, so I'm hoping someone
else can confirm whether I did this right.

Do a 'ls -l /usr/local/lib | grep libfreetype'.  You will probably see some
libfreetype* files with modification dates sometime in 2001.  Those are
outdated versions of the 'libfreetype' libraries, probably left over from
the Apple X11 beta period.

Fink _should_ be linking to the new libfreetype libraries stored in
/usr/X11R6/lib/, but it isn't because it's finding the old (and broken in OS
10.3) ones first.  I copied the current libfreetype libraries into
/usr/local/lib and recreated some symlinks, and everything has worked ever
since.

Here is what I did:
(1) Copied /usr/X11R6/lib/libfreetype.6.3.dylib
to   /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.6.3.dylib
(2) Modified the symlink /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.6.dylib
originally linked to-> libfreetype.6.2.0.dylib
  changed to link to-> libfreetype.6.3.dylib
(3) Modified the symlink /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.dylib
originally linked to-> libfreetype.6.2.0.dylib
  changed to link to-> libfreetype.6.3.dylib

This allowed the compilation to proceed without further errors.  This may
work for you, as well, but hopefully someone else on the list can answer my
following questions first.

Now, my questions for the rest of the list are this:  Did I do that right???
Haven't I just exchanged one versioning problem for another by replacing the
outdated libfreetype with another one that will just become outdated?
Should step 1 be a symlink instead of a copy?  Or should I just have deleted
all the libfreetype stuff from /usr/local/lib so the build process would
fall through to the /usr/X11R6/lib directory?  Is there probably other stuff
in /usr/local/lib that I should remove?

I know enough to be dangerous with this kind of stuff, and my method above
strikes me as non-kosher in some way

Best regards,
Justin Goeres
Concord, CA

> Hello,
>
> I would like to install gtk+2 on Mac OS 10.3 but I am having an error.
> What should I do?
>
> Here is a summary of the messages from the start:
> 
> > ld: warning prebinding disabled because dependent library:
> > /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.6.dylib is not prebound
> > ld: ./.libs/libpango-ot.a(ftxgpos.o) illegal reference to symbol:
> > _FT_Stream_EnterFrame defined in indirectly referenced dynamic library
> > /usr/X11R6/lib/libfreetype.6.dylib
> > make[3]: *** [ottest] Error 1
> > make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
> > make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
> > make: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2
> > ### execution of LD_TWOLEVEL_NAMESPACE=1 failed, exit code 2
> > Failed: compiling pango1-xft2-1.2.5-2 failed



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[Fink-users] Not sure what's wrong here...

[Philip Trauring]

I haven't been able to install anything using Fink in a long time. I don't know what's wrong. For example, if I try to do a binary update of curl (even though my binary is up to date) I get the following sequence:

Reading Package Lists...
Building Dependency Tree...
Sorry, curl is already the newest version.
0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 18  not upgraded.
1 packages not fully installed or removed.
Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 0B will be used.
Setting up fink (0.18.3-1) ...
Checking system... powerpc-apple-darwin7.4.0
/usr/sbin/gcc_select: line 1: grep: command not found

Since you have gcc 3.3 installed, fink must be bootstrapped or updated using 
that compiler.  However, you currently have gcc an unknown version selected.  To correct 
this problem, run the command: 

sudo gcc_select 3.3 

dpkg: error processing fink (--configure):
subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
Errors were encountered while processing:
fink
E: Sub-process /sw/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)

but when I try to run that command in the terminal I get the following:

[23:37:49] [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ > sudo gcc_select 3.3
Password:
/usr/sbin/gcc_select: line 1: grep: command not found
Error trying to determine current cc version (got )
[23:37:53] [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ > 

Any ideas what the heck is going on?

Thanks,

Philip

Re: [Fink-users] Problem compiling gnumeric

[Stan Sanderson]

On Jun 1, 2004, at 3:58 PM, Stefano wrote:
Hi,
rebuilding libgnomedb-dev has solved the problem, gnumeric has just 
finished compiling successfully.

Stefano
Stefano-
Please let the list know if you are able to print from gnumeric, and if 
so, how.

Stan

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[Fink-users] Can't install gtk+2

[Pierre Thibault]

Hello,
I would like to install gtk+2 on Mac OS 10.3 but I am having an error. 
What should I do?

Here is a summary of the messages from the start:
[Ordinateur-de-Pierre-Thibault:~] pierreth% fink install gtk+2
/usr/bin/sudo /sw/bin/fink  install gtk+2
Password:
Sorry, try again.
Password:
Information about 1498 packages read in 8 seconds.
The following package will be installed or updated:
 gtk+2
The following 6 additional packages will be installed:
 atk1 atk1-shlibs gtk+2-shlibs pango1-xft2 pango1-xft2-dev 
pango1-xft2-shlibs
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y
curl -f -L -O http://distfiles.master.finkmirrors.net/atk-1.4.1.tar.bz2
  % Total% Received % Xferd  Average Speed  Time   
  Curr.
 Dload  Upload TotalCurrent  Left  
  Speed
100  433k  100  433k0 0   150k  0  0:00:02  0:00:02  
0:00:00  185k
curl -f -L -O 
http://distfiles.master.finkmirrors.net/gtk+-2.2.4.tar.bz2
  % Total% Received % Xferd  Average Speed  Time   
  Curr.
 Dload  Upload TotalCurrent  Left  
  Speed
100 7020k  100 7020k0 0   209k  0  0:00:33  0:00:33  
0:00:00  158k
curl -f -L -O 
http://distfiles.master.finkmirrors.net/pango-1.2.5.tar.bz2
  % Total% Received % Xferd  Average Speed  Time   
  Curr.
 Dload  Upload TotalCurrent  Left  
  Speed
100  845k  100  845k0 0   166k  0  0:00:05  0:00:05  
0:00:00  189k
/bin/mkdir -p /sw/src/atk1-1.4.1-2
bzip2 -dc /sw/src/atk-1.4.1.tar.bz2 | /sw/bin/tar -xf -
patch -p1 
patching file Makefile.in
patching file po/Makefile.in.in
LD_TWOLEVEL_NAMESPACE=1 ./configure --prefix=/sw ; make -j2
checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c
checking whether build environment is sane... yes
checking for gawk... gawk
checking whether make sets $(MAKE)... yes
checking for style of include used by make... GNU
checking for gcc... gcc
checking for C compiler default output... a.out
checking whether the C compiler works... yes
checking whether we are cross compiling... no
checking for suffix of executables...
checking for suffix of object files... o
checking whether we are using the GNU C compiler... yes
checking whether gcc accepts -g... yes
checking for gcc option to accept ANSI C... none needed
checking dependency style of gcc... gcc3
checking how to run the C preprocessor... gcc -E
checking for egrep... grep -E
checking for ANSI C header files... yes
checking for sys/types.h... yes
checking for sys/stat.h... yes
checking for stdlib.h... yes
checking for string.h... yes
checking for memory.h... yes
checking for strings.h... yes
checking for inttypes.h... yes
checking for stdint.h... yes
checking for unistd.h... yes
checking locale.h usability... yes
checking locale.h presence... yes
checking for locale.h... yes
checking for LC_MESSAGES... yes
checking libintl.h usability... yes
checking libintl.h presence... yes
checking for libintl.h... yes
checking for dgettext in libc... no
checking for bindtextdomain in -lintl... yes
checking for dgettext in -lintl... yes
checking for bind_textdomain_codeset... yes
checking for msgfmt... /sw/bin/msgfmt
checking for dcgettext... yes
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checking for catalogs to be installed...  am az be bg bn ca cs cy da 
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checking whether we are using the GNU C compiler... (cached) yes
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checking for gcc option to accept ANSI C... (cached) none needed
checking dependency style of gcc... (cached) gcc3
checking build system type... powerpc-apple-darwin7.4.0
checking host system type... powerpc-apple-darwin7.4.0
checking for a sed that does not truncate output... /usr/bin/sed
checking for ld used by gcc... /usr/bin/ld
checking if the linker (/usr/bin/ld) is GNU ld... no
checking for /usr/bin/ld option to reload object files... -r
checking for BSD-compatible nm... /usr/bin/nm -p
checking whether ln -s works... yes
checking how to recognise dependent libraries... pass_all
checking dlfcn.h usability... yes
checking dlfcn.h presence... yes
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checking whether we are using the GNU C++ compiler... yes
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checking dependency style of g++... gcc3
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Re: [Fink-users] Problem compiling gnumeric

[Stefano]

Hi,
rebuilding libgnomedb-dev has solved the problem, gnumeric has just 
finished compiling successfully.

Stefano

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Re: [Fink-users] Re: MacOS X11 vs Fink X11

[Alexander K. Hansen]

4.4 seems to be of comparable speed to Apple's X11, and can use the 
quartz window manager, too.

On Jun 1, 2004, at 9:30 AM, Viktor Haag wrote:
Tony Li writes:

And, best of all, the Fink X11 is MUCH more stable.
And slower, and less interoperable with OSX itself. Or has
Fink's X11 made strides in those areas? I switched to Apple's
X11 because it was MUCH more responsive and had MUCH better
support for OSX's clipboard.
I also didn't notice any big drop in stability. However, it's
entirely possible that Fink's X11 has improved since then...


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Re: [Fink-users] Re: MacOS X11 vs Fink X11

[Viktor Haag]

Tony Li writes:
 > 
 > 
 > And, best of all, the Fink X11 is MUCH more stable.

And slower, and less interoperable with OSX itself. Or has
Fink's X11 made strides in those areas? I switched to Apple's
X11 because it was MUCH more responsive and had MUCH better
support for OSX's clipboard.

I also didn't notice any big drop in stability. However, it's
entirely possible that Fink's X11 has improved since then...


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Re: [Fink-users] Problem compiling gnumeric

[Stefano]

Peter, thanks for the reply.
Here is the output:
[coltrane:~] 20:09> grep -r -E '^dependency_libs.*root\-libgda' /sw/lib/*.la
/sw/lib/libgnomedb-2.la:dependency_libs=' -L/sw/lib 
/sw/src/root-libgda-1.0.3-15/sw/lib/libgda-2.la /sw/lib/libgdasql.la 
/sw/lib/libxslt.la /sw/lib/libgtksourceview-1.0.la -L/usr/X11R6/lib 
/sw/lib/libgnomeprint-2-2.la -lfontconfig -lfreetype 
/sw/lib/libglade-2.0.la /sw/lib/libgnomeui-2.la /sw/lib/libjpeg.la 
/sw/lib/libbonoboui-2.la -lSM -lICE -lX11 /sw/lib/libgnomecanvas-2.la 
/sw/lib/libgnome-2.la /sw/lib/libesd.la /sw/lib/libaudiofile.la 
/sw/lib/libart_lgpl_2.la /sw/lib/libpangoft2-1.0.la 
/sw/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.la /sw/lib/libgdk-x11-2.0.la /sw/lib/libatk-1.0.la 
/sw/lib/libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.la /sw/lib/libpangoxft-1.0.la 
/sw/lib/libpangox-1.0.la /sw/lib/libpango-1.0.la /sw/lib/libbonobo-2.la 
/sw/lib/libgnomevfs-2.la /sw/lib/libgconf-2.la /sw/lib/libxml2.la 
-lpthread -lz /sw/lib/libbonobo-activation.la 
/sw/lib/libORBitCosNaming-2.la /sw/lib/libORBit-2.la /sw/lib/libpopt.la 
/sw/lib/libgobject-2.0.la /sw/lib/libgthread-2.0.la -lresolv -lm 
/sw/lib/libgmodule-2.0.la /sw/lib/libglib-2.0.la /sw/lib/libintl.la 
/sw/lib/libiconv.la'

Stefano
On Tue, 1 Jun 2004, Peter O'Gorman wrote:
Peter O'Gorman wrote:
Looks like libtool wrote an invalid dependency_lib to an la file 
somewhere.

Please do `grep -r -E '^dependency_libs.*root\-libgda' /sw/lib*.la` and 
post the results.
Oops, should have been:
grep -r -E '^dependency_libs.*root\-libgda' /sw/lib/*.la
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Re: [Fink-users] Error Building QT 3.2.2-12

[Deep Thought]

I've switched from apple's x11 over to xdarwin, but I'm pretty sure 
that I did it correctly. I'll go ahead and do a clean install of 
panther, and try and take care of it that way. I've done so many times, 
I've lost count. :P (my theoligy is , if it doesn't work, repartiton! 
:P )


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Re: [Fink-users] Error Building QT 3.2.2-12

[Benjamin Reed]

Deep Thought wrote:
   unsigned int, unsigned int)' uses local type 
`FT_EXPORT()::_XkbDeviceInfo'
/usr/X11R6/include/X11/XKBlib.h:1325: warning: non-local function `int
   XkbSetDeviceButtonActions(Display*, FT_EXPORT()::_XkbDeviceInfo*, 
unsigned
   int, unsigned int)' uses local type `FT_EXPORT()::_XkbDeviceInfo'
/usr/X11R6/include/X11/XKBlib.h:1356: warning: non-local function `int
   XkbApplyVirtualModChanges(FT_EXPORT()::_XkbDesc*, unsigned int,
   FT_EXPORT()::_XkbChanges*)' uses local type `FT_EXPORT()::_XkbDesc'
Do you have anything freetype-related in /usr/local?
If not, have you done anything like installed Apple's X11 and then 
installed XFree86 4.4 over it, or something along those lines?

I've never seen this error, and it really looks like it's a problem with 
freaky headers somewhere...

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Re: [Fink-users] Re: MacOS X11 vs Fink X11

[Tony Li]

On Jun 1, 2004, at 6:01 AM, David R. Morrison wrote:
Apple's X11 for Panther works just fine and is quite stable.
I respectfully disagree.  The Apple X server seems to core dump
in my environment and usage patterns with great regularity.  The
Fink X11 does not.
YMMV
Tony

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Re: [Fink-users] K3B

[Benjamin Reed]

David R. Morrison wrote:
OK, in that case, you'll need to go into the build directory and examine
both configure and config.log to see what kind of test it is performing
for the kdelibs, and how that test failed.  Sometimes these things are
caused by an implicit dependency on a library which should have been
given in the fink package but wasn't...
  -- Dave
P.S. No, I've not attempted K3B and don't even know what it is... I am
just giving general troubleshooting advice.
For all KDE apps, you'll generally want to do what I'm doing in the KDE 
packages, and unpack a new admin/ directory over the one that ships with 
the software, because it is unlikely to work correctly with darwin.

Get the kde-admindir tarball and unpack it (if you've built kde from 
source in fink, you already have it in /sw/src, otherwise a "fink fetch 
kdelibs3" should get it), then do "make -f admin/Makefile.common cvs" 
and then the normal config stuff.

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Re: [Fink-users] Problem compiling gnumeric

[Peter O'Gorman]

Peter O'Gorman wrote:
Looks like libtool wrote an invalid dependency_lib to an la file somewhere.
Please do `grep -r -E '^dependency_libs.*root\-libgda' /sw/lib*.la` and 
post the results.
Oops, should have been:
grep -r -E '^dependency_libs.*root\-libgda' /sw/lib/*.la
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Re: [Fink-users] Re: MacOS X11 vs Fink X11

[David R. Morrison]

There seems to be some confusion here.

Apple's X11 for Panther works just fine and is quite stable.  Most users will
be quite happy with this option and won't need to install Fink's xfree86
package.

The instructions about removing Fink probably need to be updated, to point
out that you would only remove /usr/X11R6 if you were using Fink's xfree86
package.  (Note that prior to Apple's release of X11 beta for Jaguar,
installing Fink's xfree86 was the most common option for users, which is
what led to the instructions you saw.)

If you have inadvertantly removed /usr/X11R6 when using Apple's X11, you
can either reinstall Apple's X11  (from the 10.3 and XCode install disks:
you need the X11SDK package from XCode if you are going to install any
Fink packages from source), or you can install Fink's xfree86.

  -- Dave


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Re: [Fink-users] Problem compiling gnumeric

[Peter O'Gorman]

Stefano wrote:
ot-libgda-1.0.3-15/sw/lib/libgda-2.la: No such file or
directory
sed: /sw/src/root-libgda-1.0.3-15/sw/lib/libgda-2.la: No such file or 
directory
libtool: link: `/sw/src/root-libgda-1.0.3-15/sw/lib/libgda-2.la' is not 
a valid libtool archive
Looks like libtool wrote an invalid dependency_lib to an la file somewhere.
Please do `grep -r -E '^dependency_libs.*root\-libgda' /sw/lib*.la` and post 
the results.

Thanks,
Peter
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Re: [Fink-users] MacOS X11 vs Fink X11

[Paul William]

I have both installed and they both work fine.
Hanspeter Niederstrasser wrote:
On Mon, 31 May 2004, Perry Wagle wrote:
(1) Why does Fink insist on installing its own version of XFree86
instead of using the native X11?

Fink is quite happy with Apple's X11 if you have that installed.  The 
problem is that the X11 installer doesn't always install everything that 
it says it did and then Fink gets confused trying to find it.  See 
 and 
. 


(2) Why does FInk not install its own version of XFree86 in /sw
instead of "corrupting" (or at least inextractably mixing itself with)
my other version of X11?

For historical and technical reasons that I'm not clear on, X (whatever 
flavor) needs to go into /usr/X11R6 and /etc/X11.  It's one of the few 
packages in Fink that can't go inside /sw.  So it's pretty much 
impossible to have both Apple's X11 and Xfree86 installed at the same time.

Do I now have to reinstall Panther to fix my native X11?

No, see Q9.11 in the Fink FAQ for how to get the native X11 running 
correctly after a conflict with Xfree86.

Hanspeter
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Re: [Fink-users] Problem compiling gnumeric

[Stefano]

Yes, of course I did ;-)
Otherwise the build would have failed much earlier and other packages 
would not have compiled either.
In fact I get exactly the same result with Xcode 1.1 and 1.2...
Thanks for the suggestion anyway.

Stefano

On Tue, 1 Jun 2004 08:53:33 +0200, "Klaus Hereth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
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> You did reinstall and update Xcode, didn't you? 10.3 without Xcode is
> like 10.2 without Developer Tools.
> 
> Greets,
> 
> Klaus
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