Re: [Fink-users] Re: Request for binary distribution of unstable packages
On 2/9/06, Alexander K. Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 2/9/06, William Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I wonder if it might be worthwhile to have some sort of informal > > web ring of people who serve their fink along these lines: http:// > > fink.sourceforge.net/doc/advanced/bindist.php?phpLang=en > > > > I make mine available to my user community, but as long as the user > > accepts it (and the associated risks) as-is, and doesn't overwhelm my > > server, I'd be willing to do that. > > > > > > Bill Scott > > > > > > > > > One word of warning. Anybody who participates in this should build > any X11 packages against Apple's X11 to keep things nice and > compatible for everybody. > OK, it was in the doc cited above. But it's important to reiterate since there's no way to tell which X11 version the .deb file was built against. (I use Xorg, so I guess I'm out of the ring) -- Alexander K. Hansen Fink Documenter [Day Job] Levitated Dipole Experiment http://psfcwww2.psfc.mit.edu/ldx/ --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid3432&bid#0486&dat1642 ___ Fink-users mailing list Fink-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
Re: [Fink-users] Re: Request for binary distribution of unstable packages
On 2/9/06, William Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I wonder if it might be worthwhile to have some sort of informal > web ring of people who serve their fink along these lines: http:// > fink.sourceforge.net/doc/advanced/bindist.php?phpLang=en > > I make mine available to my user community, but as long as the user > accepts it (and the associated risks) as-is, and doesn't overwhelm my > server, I'd be willing to do that. > > > Bill Scott > > > > One word of warning. Anybody who participates in this should build any X11 packages against Apple's X11 to keep things nice and compatible for everybody. -- Alexander K. Hansen Fink Documenter [Day Job] Levitated Dipole Experiment http://psfcwww2.psfc.mit.edu/ldx/ --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid3432&bid#0486&dat1642 ___ Fink-users mailing list Fink-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
[Fink-users] Re: Request for binary distribution of unstable packages
I wonder if it might be worthwhile to have some sort of informal web ring of people who serve their fink along these lines: http:// fink.sourceforge.net/doc/advanced/bindist.php?phpLang=en I make mine available to my user community, but as long as the user accepts it (and the associated risks) as-is, and doesn't overwhelm my server, I'd be willing to do that. Bill Scott --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=103432&bid=230486&dat=121642 ___ Fink-users mailing list Fink-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
Re: [Fink-users] Request for binary distribution of unstable packages
On Thu, 9 Feb 2006, Martin Glaser wrote: When I installed 10.3 I decided not to install Developer tools anymore, because it just takes up a lot of space on the hard disc and I am not doing any active Development nowadays (no time, my life is Fink doesn't need the whole Developer Tools, it doesn't read the documentation or run the applications or try out the examples... I don't know what "a lot of disk space" is for you, but on my old 10Gb iBook I have it down to just over 100Mb: /Developer-5> du -sk * . 1824Headers 9604Java 1076Makefiles 1036Palettes 116 Private 88420 SDKs 102084 . -- Viv Dr Viv Kendon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quantum Information tel: 0113 343 3858 Physics & Astronomy University of Leeds http://quantum.leeds.ac.uk/~viv --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=103432&bid=230486&dat=121642 ___ Fink-users mailing list Fink-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
Re: [Fink-users] Problem with apt-get update
On 2/3/06, Martin Glaser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Try installing a package with apt-get (or the > > FinkCommander Binary options, or what have you) > > and see if you get the same complaints. > > I get the same complaints, it even doesn't try to > install... > > See the log here: > > [localhost:~] admin% sudo apt-get install jpegoptim > Password: > Use of uninitialized value in hash element at > /sw/lib/perl5/Fink/VirtPackage.pm line 663. > Use of uninitialized value in scalar assignment at > /sw/lib/perl5/Fink/VirtPackage.pm line 1402. > Use of uninitialized value in concatenation (.) or > string at /sw/lib/perl5/Fink/VirtPackage.pm line 1407. > Use of uninitialized value in concatenation (.) or > string at /sw/lib/perl5/Fink/VirtPackage.pm line 1407. > Use of uninitialized value in concatenation (.) or > string at /sw/lib/perl5/Fink/VirtPackage.pm line 1407. > Use of uninitialized value in hash element at > /sw/lib/perl5/Fink/VirtPackage.pm line 664. > Use of uninitialized value in hash element at > /sw/lib/perl5/Fink/VirtPackage.pm line 664. > Reading Package Lists... Error! > E: Encountered a section with no Package: header > E: Problem with MergeList /tmp/finkaptstatus > E: The package lists or status file could not be > parsed or opened. > [localhost:~] admin% > > After some hunting, we found that not having any of the compiler packages installed creates this error. -- Alexander K. Hansen Fink Documenter [Day Job] Levitated Dipole Experiment http://psfcwww2.psfc.mit.edu/ldx/ --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid3432&bid#0486&dat1642 ___ Fink-users mailing list Fink-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
Re: [Fink-users] Request for binary distribution of unstable packages
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Feb 9, 2006, at 9:28 AM, Martin Glaser wrote: My point was not to bring Gimp2 into Fink, Gimp2 is already part of Fink, but as it is unstable it is available only for Developers. I installed Gimp2 from the official web site about a year ago and deinstalled Fink's gimp1, but what now? Every time a new version is out, I have to update it manually! What a work. For whom is an unstable Gimp2 in Fink useful? My point is: Please make unstable packages generally available for testers and users in binary form. This is all explained on the FAQ, and I believe the wiki. Fink is a build from source project. Pre-compiled binaries are a nice bonus we try to provide, but that is not how the project was designed. gimp2 is not available to only 'developers', but to everyone. It just needs to be compiled. Right now binary updates must be done by hand, and as there are often bugs in the packages that need fixing, it takes a very long time to do it right. We are slowly working on a way to have everything automatic, but, we are volunteers, and it is low on our radar. If you want gimp2 (or any package) to one day make it to the stable tree, we need feedback. I maintain almost 100 packages, and have gotten no feedback on *any* of them (except 2 bug reports) for at least a year. In summary: 1) install the devtools, 2) build the packages you want to use, and 3) send emails to the maintainers telling them how it works so it can be moved to the stable tree. - -chris zubrzycki - - -- PGP public key: http://homepage.mac.com/beren/publickey.txt ID: 0xA2ABC070 Fingerprint: 26B0 BA6B A409 FA83 42B3 1688 FBF9 8232 A2AB C070 "Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former." - -- Albert Einstein -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (Darwin) Comment: Please sign reply-http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAkPrVpwACgkQ+/mCMqKrwHBBIgCeJa6QjP7hr3tWMR0SBQ8yztJg AtkAoNOVoFDlrv8DWO6mLe/UNADGnlL2 =aY5v -END PGP SIGNATURE- --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=103432&bid=230486&dat=121642 ___ Fink-users mailing list Fink-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
Re: [Fink-users] Request for binary distribution of unstable packages
Hello Lorenz, for me the advantages of fink are: - easy installation and update of packages - easy deinstallation of packages - proper handling of dependencies - availability of many (command line) Unix tools (I love to use them) The reasons for using Fink above apply also for Gimp. My point was not to bring Gimp2 into Fink, Gimp2 is already part of Fink, but as it is unstable it is available only for Developers. I installed Gimp2 from the official web site about a year ago and deinstalled Fink's gimp1, but what now? Every time a new version is out, I have to update it manually! What a work. For whom is an unstable Gimp2 in Fink useful? My point is: Please make unstable packages generally available for testers and users in binary form. Maybe another better example which really hurts me: XXDiff. When I bought my iBook in 2003 I installed OS X 10.2 and I also installed the Developer Tools and I compiled and used XXDiff. Compiling it was no problem at all. I used XXDiff because it is much faster than FileMerge when it comes to long files (hard disc listings in my case). When I installed 10.3 I decided not to install Developer tools anymore, because it just takes up a lot of space on the hard disc and I am not doing any active Development nowadays (no time, my life is already too hectic nowadays). Since this time I am waiting for **somebody** to provide a compiled binary version of XXDiff suitable for 10.3! There is one problem why I can not use my old compilation: XXDiff depends on Qt, the Qt available within 10.3-Fink is not compatible with my old binary of XXDiff that used the Qt within 10.2-Fink. I made some efforts to get XXDiff within Fink and it is there since 2 years. I am sure it works fine, I just can not try it, because it is still unstable!! It really hurts. Martin --- LHerm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > Hello Martin > > Sorry to be so late to this. Life is fairly hectic > here right now. > > Could you explain why the Fink project needs to do > its' own Gimp2 > binary? How would a Fink binary be different from > the one already > available from the Gimp site? What would be the > advantage to having > this duplication? > > Lorenz > > > > On 05 Feb, 2006, at 10:55 AM, Martin Glaser wrote: > > > FINK supplies very seldom a binary distribution > for packages that are > > only > > available in the unstable tree. I think that this > is the wrong > > approach, because > > people like me who do not install the Developer > Tools have no chance > > to test new > > packages. Having not enough test results new > packages never get from > > the > > unstable to the stable tree. > > > > An Example: Gimp2 is now out for a long time. > Within FINK it still is > > in the > > unstable tree. Why? I bet that not enough testers > have given a > > positive test > > result to the FINK system. But who uses/tests a > program like Gimp? > > Mostly not > > developers I would say. > > > > So please: reconsider regular supply of unstable > packages in the binary > > distribution. > > > > Martin Glaser > > ___ Telefonate ohne weitere Kosten vom PC zum PC: http://messenger.yahoo.de --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=103432&bid=230486&dat=121642 ___ Fink-users mailing list Fink-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
