Re: [Fink-users] Sourceforge project of the month
My understanding was that JKH (Jordan Hubbard, the BSD guru that Apple hired) had said in the past the darwinports project is not meant to compete but complement stuff like fink and gnu-darwin. But sure would be nice if Apple supported things like fink. At the very least they could add a copy of the fink binary to future Developer Tools CD. I agree with Blake if it comes down to competition, I don't mind :) The user should benefit either way. I would venture to guess that one reason Apple might be supporting a project such a darwinports is as an effort to push better portability of software packages on OS X. Thought I'm probably wrong about fink, it seems like some of the fink packages require patches that are not part of the standard distributions. Somethings probably just compile fine out of the box in fink. Though you can download the precompiled binaries (I'm waiting for Jaguar binaries). -Esteban On Saturday, November 2, 2002, at 04:11 PM, Blake Meike wrote: On Saturday, November 2, 2002, at 06:20 PM, Ben Hines wrote: Actually, Apple is doing the opposite. They are paying engineers to work on (during work time) darwinports, a fink competitor. http://www.opendarwin.org/projects/darwinports/ It may even be included with the OS. They only have around 100 packages now, so its not really worth using at this time, but fink's days may be numbered if darwinports is included with Mac OS X. Why? I'd hardly call support for darwinports "the opposite" of support for fink: As long as the apps do become available, I don't think much care which project gets them that way. A little competition may even be a good thing. Still, personally, I've been using fink since I started using OS X. Does anyone have any insight into why Apple is supporting darwinports instead of fink? With all its warts, it seems that fink has more experience and more momentum that darwinports, at this point. So why the snub? Blake Meike --- This sf.net email is sponsored by: See the NEW Palm Tungsten T handheld. Power & Color in a compact size! http://ads.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/redirect.pl?palm0001en ___ Fink-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users --- This sf.net email is sponsored by: See the NEW Palm Tungsten T handheld. Power & Color in a compact size! http://ads.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/redirect.pl?palm0001en ___ Fink-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
Re: [Fink-users] Sourceforge project of the month
On Saturday, November 2, 2002, at 06:20 PM, Ben Hines wrote: Actually, Apple is doing the opposite. They are paying engineers to work on (during work time) darwinports, a fink competitor. http://www.opendarwin.org/projects/darwinports/ It may even be included with the OS. They only have around 100 packages now, so its not really worth using at this time, but fink's days may be numbered if darwinports is included with Mac OS X. Why? I'd hardly call support for darwinports "the opposite" of support for fink: As long as the apps do become available, I don't think much care which project gets them that way. A little competition may even be a good thing. Still, personally, I've been using fink since I started using OS X. Does anyone have any insight into why Apple is supporting darwinports instead of fink? With all its warts, it seems that fink has more experience and more momentum that darwinports, at this point. So why the snub? Blake Meike --- This sf.net email is sponsored by: See the NEW Palm Tungsten T handheld. Power & Color in a compact size! http://ads.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/redirect.pl?palm0001en ___ Fink-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
[Fink-users] Sourceforge project of the month
Dear Max: Congratulations to you and to all of the fink developers. As someone who has greatly benefitted from fink but has yet to find a way to contribute anything, I wanted to take a minute to mention that fink has been the single most important thing that makes Mac OS X much more useful to me than OS 9 and before. Fink quite literally has made it possible for me to use my Apple computer as a real unix computer rather than as a glorified typewriter. I read on the SourceForge page that "Apple has at one point supported us by giving Christoph a beta release of Mac OS X 10.1." Would it be worth having us write to Apple and tell them how important fink has been, and how nice it would have been to have supplied a beta release, for example, of 10.2, and encourage Apple to do everything they can to support fink in the future? I actually had an apple rep track me down last week to ask about why I was grumbling about 10.2. So on some level they must be interested... Again, thanks for doing this. I think it is safe to say that fink is greatly appreciated by all of us. William G. Scott Associate Professor Department of Chemistry and Biochemistry and The Center for the Molecular Biology of RNA Sinsheimer Laboratories University of California at Santa Cruz Santa Cruz, California 95064 USA phone: +1-831-459-5367 (office) +1-831-459-5292 (lab) fax: +1-831-4593139 (fax)
