Re: [firebird-support] Re: Rename database command

2013-06-05 Thread Marcus Bajohr
 From my little knowlegde i would guess Robert is talking about the 
delta between the oldest active transaction and next transaction.
But as long as i do not know anything about the application (event 
listeners, long time transactions and that) and the environment (Number 
of active connections and that) Robert writes about (may be he has in an 
earlier post) , it is just peeking around.

just my EUR 0,02, Marcus
Alexandre Benson Smith wrote:
 Em 5/6/2013 13:33, Leyne, Sean escreveu:
 Alexandre,

 While I completely agree with your points. I read the OP as meaning
 that they are running out of transactions ID (given the current 2GB
 limit) -- they have an 800GB database, so a large number of
 transactions would/could be expected, so transactions ID could get
 exhausted. In that case, a backup/restore would be required, but a
 weekly cycle is excessive (it means that the db is handling more than
 3550 transactions per second!!! Very unlikely). Sean

 Hi Sean !

 I read that, but the point I was talking about is related to this phrase:
 It became clear to us that to keep the system going we have to run a
 backup/restore every weekend because of slow downs when transaction
 counts got too high

 But I don't think that the transaction count getting too high would lead
 to a server slowdown.


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Re: [firebird-support] Re: Rename database command

2013-06-05 Thread Alexandre Benson Smith
Em 5/6/2013 17:34, Marcus Bajohr escreveu:
   From my little knowlegde i would guess Robert is talking about the
 delta between the oldest active transaction and next transaction.
 But as long as i do not know anything about the application (event
 listeners, long time transactions and that) and the environment (Number
 of active connections and that) Robert writes about (may be he has in an
 earlier post) , it is just peeking around.

 just my EUR 0,02, Marcus


yep...

that *would* cause slowndown... but back-up/restore is not needed to fix it.

In fact.. the fix is in the application (transaction control), and if 
the application could not be fixed a simple SWEEP (gfix -sweep) would 
fix that if run when no one is connected (I assume that it is possible 
since he could back-up/restore)

see you !


[firebird-support] Re: Rename database command

2013-06-05 Thread sir_wally_lewis
Hi Sean,

While I don't pretend to understand Firebird at the atomic level. I am just 
trying to cope with database slowdowns. We find the only bullet proof 
methodology to solve database slowdowns is a backup restore. So we are 
searching for a method to be able to resolve database slowdowns, while keeping 
the database online.

I am not concerned with whether theoretically firebird should or should not 
require a backup/restore. It seems that in practice under large database 
conditions to be a requirement.

Our networks guy is going to spend some time seeing if he can give evidence of 
this requirement. Of course we will try any method to attempt to resolve this.

In the past we have not found sweeping the database to help, but we will 
continue to do everything we can to resolve this for our customers sake.

Kind Regards,

Robert