Re: [firebird-support] Preparing for upgrade from 1.56 to 3 or 4

2018-12-20 Thread Mark Rotteveel m...@lawinegevaar.nl [firebird-support]
On 19-12-2018 17:33, Mark Rotteveel m...@lawinegevaar.nl 
[firebird-support] wrote:
> Although I haven't read it myself, consider buying "Migration Guide to
> Firebird 3" by Carlos Cantu, see
> https://www.firebirdnews.org/migration-guide-to-firebird-3/

And now I have read it, I can say that I stand by my earlier 
endorsement: consider by it.

Mark
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Re: [firebird-support] Preparing for upgrade from 1.56 to 3 or 4

2018-12-19 Thread my...@techsol.org [firebird-support]
Thank you so much for this information.  Priceless!

Re: [firebird-support] Preparing for upgrade from 1.56 to 3 or 4

2018-12-19 Thread Tomasz Tyrakowski t.tyrakow...@sol-system.pl [firebird-support]
On 19.12.2018 at 17:33, Mark Rotteveel m...@lawinegevaar.nl 
[firebird-support] wrote:
> Although I haven't read it myself, consider buying "Migration Guide to
> Firebird 3" by Carlos Cantu, see
> https://www.firebirdnews.org/migration-guide-to-firebird-3/

Just taking the occasion of this topic being discussed, I'd like to 
mention one thing that might get overlooked but may as well become a 
real issue in some cases.
There's a short note on the firebirdnews.org site
https://www.firebirdnews.org/how-to-migrate-existing-users-from-firebird-2-x-to-firebird-3/
saying, that upgrading existing users from 2.x to 3.x will generate a 
new random password for each user.
Is that really the only option? With a few dozens of systems deployed, a 
few dozens to a few hundreds users each (real FB users), notifying a 
couple of thousand employees of our customers about new passwords might 
be a real no-go.
That's one of the main reasons we're delaying the upgrade from 2.5 to 3 
at our customers' sites.

Any suggestions much appreciated.

thanks
Tomasz

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Re: [firebird-support] Preparing for upgrade from 1.56 to 3 or 4

2018-12-19 Thread Mark Rotteveel m...@lawinegevaar.nl [firebird-support]
On 19-12-2018 17:01, my...@techsol.org [firebird-support] wrote:
> I have a few older FB databases that will need upgrading to later 
> versions.  They are pretty large, and most have between 500-1,000 stored 
> procedures.  Some contain many tables with millions of rows of data.  
> This is not likely to be a small undertaking.  Although I realize there 
> are services out there that I can pay to do this, I'd like to do it 
> myself simply because I have to manage these databases going forward.
> 
> Is there any documentation regarding doing upgrades like this available 
> for review?  This is all on Linux and I realize that this process will 
> take some time, so I may need interim support for DBs on upgraded Linux 
> OS versions as I progress through this, but I'd like to be able to plan 
> out the migration.
> 
> If anyone can point me to any slides, papers, presentations, etc. that 
> might help with this, it would be greatly appreciated.

I suggest to read all release notes since 1.5 on 
https://www.firebirdsql.org/en/release-notes/

Also read the "Firebird 2 Migration & Installation".

Although I haven't read it myself, consider buying "Migration Guide to 
Firebird 3" by Carlos Cantu, see 
https://www.firebirdnews.org/migration-guide-to-firebird-3/

Mark
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RE: [firebird-support] Preparing for upgrade from 1.56 to 3 or 4

2018-12-19 Thread 'Paul Beach' pbe...@mail.ibphoenix.com [firebird-support]

<>

http://www.ibphoenix.com/files/conf2016/upgrading-Cisar-2016.pdf

Regards
Paul



[firebird-support] Preparing for upgrade from 1.56 to 3 or 4

2018-12-19 Thread my...@techsol.org [firebird-support]
I have a few older FB databases that will need upgrading to later versions.  
They are pretty large, and most have between 500-1,000 stored procedures.  Some 
contain many tables with millions of rows of data.  This is not likely to be a 
small undertaking.  Although I realize there are services out there that I can 
pay to do this, I'd like to do it myself simply because I have to manage these 
databases going forward.
 

 Is there any documentation regarding doing upgrades like this available for 
review?  This is all on Linux and I realize that this process will take some 
time, so I may need interim support for DBs on upgraded Linux OS versions as I 
progress through this, but I'd like to be able to plan out the migration.
 

 If anyone can point me to any slides, papers, presentations, etc. that might 
help with this, it would be greatly appreciated.
 

 Thanks
 Myles