Re: [firebird-support] Is windows better than Linux for Firebird 2.5 64 bit?
Hello, > I am considering moving from windows to linux, but not sure if it is a good > idea. > > Any one can give me a hints about this matter? > > Is it Linux better than windows on the same hardware, regarding > performance/security/etc? A lot has been said, I would suggest, simply use what you know best from an operational POV. -- With regards, Thomas Steinmaurer http://www.upscene.com/
Re: [firebird-support] Is windows better than Linux for Firebird 2.5 64 bit?
That's a welcome thread and I would like to jump it, because I have the sameinterest/question. I don't want to spam the support list, so please, what's the best place to ask for available (paid) services around Firebird/Linux combinations? We are talking about a middle-sized company here. 50 seats. > Hello, trskopo! > Tuesday, November 6, 2012, 10:05:00 AM, you wrote: t>> Hi all, t>> I am considering moving from windows to linux, but not sure if it is a good idea. t>> Any one can give me a hints about this matter? t>> Is it Linux better than windows on the same hardware, regarding performance/security/etc? t>> And if it's better, what distro should I choose and what file system for database file? > 1. Windows can be better or slower than Linux on same hardware, > depends on hardware and existing drivers for hardware for Linux and > Windows. Difference can be up to 30% of performance. > 2. You can choose linux distro by your preferrence. If you don't know > any Linux well, then, you will have troubles. > 3. file system performance on linux, and performance of linux itsef > depends on lot of factors - journaling, barrier, kernel, and hardware > drivers. > Thus, the only choice for you is to test it by yourself. mit freundlichen Grüßen, André Knappstein EDV und Controlling ~~ beta Eigenheim- und Grundstücksverwertungsgesellschaft mbH Hafenweg 4 59192 Bergkamen-Rünthe Telefon: +49 2389 9240 140 Telefax: +49 2389 9240 150 e-mail: knappst...@beta-eigenheim.de Amtsgericht Hamm Nr. B 420 Geschäftsführer: Achim Krähling, Dirk Salewski und Matthias Steinhaus USt-IDNr.: DE 125215402 ++ Visit http://www.firebirdsql.org and click the Resources item on the main (top) menu. Try Knowledgebase and FAQ links ! Also search the knowledgebases at http://www.ibphoenix.com ++ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/firebird-support/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/firebird-support/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: firebird-support-dig...@yahoogroups.com firebird-support-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: firebird-support-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [firebird-support] Is windows better than Linux for Firebird 2.5 64 bit?
Hello, trskopo! Tuesday, November 6, 2012, 10:05:00 AM, you wrote: t> Hi all, t> I am considering moving from windows to linux, but not sure if it is a good idea. t> Any one can give me a hints about this matter? t> Is it Linux better than windows on the same hardware, regarding performance/security/etc? t> And if it's better, what distro should I choose and what file system for database file? 1. Windows can be better or slower than Linux on same hardware, depends on hardware and existing drivers for hardware for Linux and Windows. Difference can be up to 30% of performance. 2. You can choose linux distro by your preferrence. If you don't know any Linux well, then, you will have troubles. 3. file system performance on linux, and performance of linux itsef depends on lot of factors - journaling, barrier, kernel, and hardware drivers. Thus, the only choice for you is to test it by yourself. -- Dmitry Kuzmenko, www.ib-aid.com
Re: [firebird-support] Is windows better than Linux for Firebird 2.5 64 bit?
trskopo wrote: > I am considering moving from windows to linux, but not sure if it is a good > idea. > > Any one can give me a hints about this matter? Most of my previously windows only customer sites have now allowed us to switch the servers to linux. These are using currently Apache/PHP/Firebird and that is all that runs on the servers. > Is it Linux better than windows on the same hardware, regarding > performance/security/etc? With the FLAP stack, things are around 2.5 times faster on Linux when moving from XP on the same machine. With windows 7 the advantage is even greater but I've never used 'server' versions of windows so can't comment if they are any faster than a stock windows install. The improvements in performance on Firebird on it's own are not quite as advantageous since Firebird does a good job on most platforms. It's the talking between packages that seems to let Windows down? And certainly Apache/PHP works a lot better on Linux. > And if it's better, what distro should I choose and what file system for > database file? That is where Alexey's comment perhaps comes in, but nowadays stock Linux installs are a HECK of a lot easier to manage than windows ones and I actually charge customers more for maintaining windows. I can configure a new linux machine completely up to date in an hour or so, while a windows machine can be a days work - just waiting for updates to install. I've run SUSE for many years, had a couple of spin-offs to Madriva and Debian but am currently back on SUSE. However new installs will be Fedora as it has the current Apache and PHP available. One of the 'pitfalls' is getting suitable support in the distro. File system is another pitfall ... Rule one in my book is to disable 'LVM' which seems to be the default on all distros nowadays? Can't see the point since there is simply no way to recover material if there is a hard disk problem. I run a pair of disks one with the OS and programs and a second currently running EXT3 with the databases and material such as images and files rather than storing them in blobs in the database. The original system used the database for everything, but simply maintaining files and thumbnails as files is a lot faster in a web setup. So the question should perhaps be ... what are you using with Firebird? -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk Rainbow Digital Media - http://rainbowdigitalmedia.co.uk
Re: [firebird-support] Is windows better than Linux for Firebird 2.5 64 bit?
Hello, In essence, if you don't know answers for the questions you asked, you should not move to Linux. There are more pitfalls, which cannot be explained by short hints. Regards, Alexey Kovyazin IBSurgeon > Hi all, > > I am considering moving from windows to linux, but not sure if it is a good > idea. > > Any one can give me a hints about this matter? > > Is it Linux better than windows on the same hardware, regarding > performance/security/etc? > > And if it's better, what distro should I choose and what file system for > database file? > > Thanks and regards, > Sugi. > > > >
