[Fis] new book on symmetry

2007-01-26 Thread Symmetrion
Dear FISers,

Birkhaeuser publishes a new monograph on Symmetry with several
relevant aspects to information science in February.
http://www.symmetry.hu/new_books.html

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Enjoy,
Gyuri




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[Fis] information/complexity limits

2007-01-26 Thread Pedro Marijuan

Dear FIS colleagues,

In Nature 444, 9 Nov. 2006, there is an experimental paper on quantum 
limits to heat flow and also to electronic current. It is quite 
interesting that the editorial comments by the Journal relate to maximum 
information content and foundations of information physics (p. 161). 
Seemingly, the expression of  this informational limit would be quite 
similar for electrons, phonons, photons, gravitons...


Am sure that incorrectly, but it has given me room to further speculate 
that information as distinction on the adjacent should be always caught 
under topological/dimensional limits of adjacency, irrespective that time 
extension (in a non non-Markovian subject) and space extension through 
specialized channels  may increase the distinctional capability. As Karl 
as put very often in this list (irrespective of my procedural 
disagreements), distinctions also run into an inherent logical limit, 
measured by multidimensional partitions. Does the above, empirical 
limitation pay tribute, somehow, to the previous logical one?


Maybe the topic also relates to the current discussion on social 
complexity. Couldn't we argue that the effort to overcome the complexity 
limits of the individual regarding the connection with the whole group is 
also at the roots of most of institutional/technical communicational 
evolution, in any society?  The research on social networks today pays a 
lot of attention to this type of limitation phenomena, e.g., how many bonds 
and of which types can be created, maintained, etc. by the individual --or 
by enterprises.


best greetings,

Pedro

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Re: [Fis] Continuing Discussion of Social and Cultural Complexity

2007-01-26 Thread Steven Ericsson-Zenith

Dear Joseph,

I think it is a mistake to consider the brain in isolation as a  
structural complexity. Especially, if your goal is to lead to  
questions of social and cultural complexity.


It seems to me that aspects of form independent of the structural  
complexity of the human brain are likely to introduce dominant  
complexities that are transparent to such an analysis. For example,  
height and weight, gender, ethnicity and social status are eliminated  
in such an analysis and each of these are contributors to social and  
cultural complexity that is unrelated to the superficial complexity  
in the form of the brain.


I also think it is an error to consider the brain in isolation to the  
rest of the physiological form in general, but that seems to be quite  
a different objection.


With respect,
Steven



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Dr. Steven Ericsson-Zenith
Institute for Advanced Science  Engineering
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On Jan 26, 2007, at 1:31 PM, Joseph Tainter wrote:

... The immediate example is not social/cultural complexity  
(although the example certainly generates social and cultural  
complexity), but something more fundamental: the complexity of the  
human brain. As I hope to show, some questions about brain  
complexity lead into general questions about social and cultural  
complexity, and indeed about complexity in general.

...
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