[Fis] dark matter
Gordana has said: Information and Energy/Matter What can we hope for from studies of information related to energy/matter (as it appears for us in space/time)? Information is a concept known for its ambiguity in both common, everyday use and in its specific technical applications throughout different fields of research and technology. However, most people are unaware that matter/energy today is also a concept surrounded by a disquieting uncertainty. What for Democritus were building blocks of the whole universe appear today to constitute only 4% of its observed content. (NASA 2012) [1] The rest is labeled “dark matter” (conjectured to explain gravitational effects otherwise unaccounted for) and “dark energy” (introduced to account for the expansion of the universe). We do not know what “dark matter” and “dark energy” actually are. This indicates that our present understanding of the structure of the physical world needs re-examination. [...] Information and Energy/Matter Gordana Dodig Crnkovic Information 2012, 3(4), 751-755; http://unam.us4.list-manage2.com/track/click?u=0eb0ac9b4e8565f2967a8304bid=ae24f18d1ee=d38efa683e Special Issue Information and Energy/Matter http://unam.us4.list-manage.com/track/click?u=0eb0ac9b4e8565f2967a8304bid=ea193b9747e=d38efa683e See it on Scoop.it ( http://unam.us4.list-manage.com/track/click?u=0eb0ac9b4e8565f2967a8304bid=cdfa764e97e=d38efa683e) , via Papers ( http://unam.us4.list-manage.com/track/click?u=0eb0ac9b4e8565f2967a8304bid=e23b9e2cd9e=d38efa683e ) I would like to inquire whether any fis'rs might react to the following notion: Dark matter is postulated because the amount of matter detectable in galaxies would be insufficient alone to explain how they hold together given the value of the gravitational constant. However, the information we glean from galaxies represents their condition as it was a very long time ago, in an earlier universe. Is it not possible to resolve this puzzle less radically than by inventing dark matter by supposing that the gravitational constant has not been constant but has instead been changing, and was much stronger in the past, which is when we detect these distant clusters of matter? Perhaps G as been scaled to the rate of expansion of space? Perhaps the rate of expansion was greater then than now, even with current acceleration? STAN ___ fis mailing list fis@listas.unizar.es https://webmail.unizar.es/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fis
Re: [Fis] Dark Matter (R.Ulanowicz)
- Mensaje original - De: Robert Ulanowicz u...@umces.edu Fecha: Sábado, 29 de Diciembre de 2012, 4:26 pm ** Stan, We know that the Fine-Structure Constant, alpha, has changed over the course of the universe http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fine-structure_constant. I wrote in my last book how I suspect others have evolved as well. What is needed is a good dimensional analysis. Unfortunately, dimensional analysis seems foreign to physicists. Otherwise, they wouldn't be making some of the incredible claims that are abroad! :) Cheers, Bob Quoting Stanley N Salthe ssal...@binghamton.edu: Gordana has said: Information and Energy/Matter What can we hope for from studies of information related to energy/matter (as it appears for us in space/time)? Information is a concept known for its ambiguity in both common, everyday use and in its specific technical applications throughout different fields of research and technology. However, most people are unaware that matter/energy today is also a concept surrounded by a disquieting uncertainty. What for Democritus were building blocks of the whole universe appear today to constitute only 4% of its observed content. (NASA 2012) [1] The rest is labeled dark matter (conjectured to explain gravitational effects otherwise unaccounted for) and dark energy (introduced to account for the expansion of the universe). We do not know what dark matter and dark energy actually are. This indicates that our present understanding of the structure of the physical world needs re-examination. [...] Information and Energy/Matter Gordana Dodig Crnkovic Information 2012, 3(4), 751-755; http://unam.us4.list- manage2.com/track/click?u=0eb0ac9b4e8565f2967a8304bid=ae24f18d1ee=d38efa683e Special Issue Information and Energy/Matter http://unam.us4.list- manage.com/track/click?u=0eb0ac9b4e8565f2967a8304bid=ea193b9747e=d38efa683e See it on Scoop.it ( http://unam.us4.list- manage.com/track/click?u=0eb0ac9b4e8565f2967a8304bid=cdfa764e97e=d38efa683e) , via Papers ( http://unam.us4.list- manage.com/track/click?u=0eb0ac9b4e8565f2967a8304bid=e23b9e2cd9e=d38efa683e ) I would like to inquire whether any fis'rs might react to the following notion: Dark matter is postulated because the amount of matter detectable in galaxies would be insufficient alone to explain how they hold together given the value of the gravitational constant. However, the information we glean from galaxies represents their condition as it was a very long time ago, in an earlier universe. Is it not possible to resolve this puzzle less radically than by inventing dark matter by supposing that the gravitational constant has not been constant but has instead been changing, and was much stronger in the past, which is when we detect these distant clusters of matter? Perhaps G as been scaled to the rate of expansion of space? Perhaps the rate of expansion was greater then than now, even with current acceleration? STAN ___ fis mailing list fis@listas.unizar.es https://webmail.unizar.es/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fis
Re: [Fis] Step Six
Sorry for the delay, Karl. Here it is. ---Pedro - Mensaje original - De: Karl Javorszky karl.javors...@gmail.com Fecha: Martes, 18 de Diciembre de 2012, 3:55 pm Asunto: spam filter A: Pedro C. Marijuan pcmarijuan.i...@aragon.es Hi Pedro, happy Xmas and New Year! The spam filter has rejected Step Six. Maybe you could ask it to publish it? Best: Karl - Step Six of Learn to Count in Twelve Easy StepsWhat happened previously: Step 1.:We have introduced additional describing aspects of the logical sentence a+b=c. Next to a,b,c, we also make use of u=b-a, k=b-2a, t=2b-3a, q=a-2b, s=17-(a+b|c), w=2a-3b.Step 2.:We have introduced the collection of additions we shall use. We have generated the aspects {a,b,c,k,u,t,q,s,w} of the 136 smallest pairs of a,b. Step 3.:We have shown that a sort on the data set – with any of the aspects as first, a different aspect as the second sorting argument – assigns a place to an addition; different sorts may assign different places.Step 4.:Ordering the data set on all pairs of aspects brings forth 72 variants of realisations of the order principle based on {|=|}. Some of the sorting orders are identical, some contradictory. The contradictions are visible on {place|amount|frequency|order}. The task is to consolidate the contradictions.Step 5.:Those sorting orders which to each addition assign identical sequential numbers build a common “clan” together. In the version of the Table presented here, 20 clans are visible. Members of a clan can differ on their number of teeth; the place of an element within a tie is not quite indeterminable but is rather dependent of how finely has the preceding sorting order had sorted previously.Step 6.:Reordering:After having eliminated the easy cases, where no reordering is needed, we now confront the mechanics of transforming the sequence alphabeta into the sequence gammadelta. (V[alfabeta, gammadelta]=.f.) This procedure is called “reordering” and as its effect, an element j that previously had the sequential place p1 has now the sequential place p2. (p1 {=|#} p2)Of specific interest is the case, wherein during a reorder, several elements have to move together in the course of a reordering. This is the main concept of the Twelve Steps.Explaining the main concept: The central concept can be pointed out exactly, by deictic methods. Before doing so, let us try to explicate the idea in colloquial speech. One knows from everyday life that a change of places may be an intricate business, as oftentimes someone has to vacate first the place in which a different person will come to sit, while the person expelled has to ask a 3rd one to liberate his place in turn, etc. This can get quite complicated, but normally people don’t talk much about it, as it normally has a solution that is evident to all. Rubik’s cube shows a specific instance of the central concept at work. (Please see 6.graph.Rubik). The concept presented here is similar to that made visible in the cube, but for the following points: there, 6 planes are given and 24 elements move while 6 are fixed; the task is deducting from the known results of the planes the collection and the sequence of the repetitive procedures (“operations”) that will result in the goal being achieved. Here, we have 136 elements, none of them fixed and the number of planes can be a subject of a spirited debate. The task here is to deduct the appearance of the planes after having gone thru all repetitive procedures (“operations”). In the case of the cube, the pleasure of having solved the puzzle encounters one as soon as one understands the procedures of which the resulting planes are an implication; here, success comes from having understood the planes that result from the applications of the procedures.In logistics one would speak of “merchandise in transit”, where one will use effective and expected matches between material and spatial references.Names for the main concept:Wittgenstein calls the idea discussed here a Sachverhalt (pls see around 2.01 in http://people.umass.edu/phil335-klement-2/tlp/tlp.html#bodytext). It appears ok to interpret, that the Sachverhalt is that “amount j is on place p”, while the Zusammenhang is that “j moves together within {j,j’,j’’,...etc} during a reorder from alphabeta into gammadelta”. Heraclit has predicted the dynamic interdependence among realisations of the order without giving a specific name to it. He points out the “upward-downward path” (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heraclitus#Panta_rhei.2C_.22everything_flows.22). Here, we may make use of the ideas – and the names – of the connotations of a convoy, chain, string or rhythm for the Zusammenhang and step or tact for the Sachverhalt.Data:The deictic definition is done by presenting a fragment of Table T (please see 6.num). Each line in Table T is one step in the process of reordering. We