*From:* Loet Leydesdorff [mailto:l...@leydesdorff.net]
*Sent:* Saturday, September 26, 2015 12:42 PM
*To:* 'Pedro C. Marijuan'; 'Günther Witzany'; 'fis'
*Cc:* 'fa...@howardbloom.net'; 'Emanuel Diamant'
*Subject:* RE: [Fis] Information is a linguistic description of structures
Dear Pedro,
Info sources, channels for info flows, and info receptors are not mere
Shannonian overtones, they symbolically refer to the very info skeleton
of our societies; or looking dynamically it is the engine of social
history and of social complexity.
It seems to me that you move too fast from the biological level to the
sociological one. At the biological level, one can observe "languaging"
as a semantic domain (Maturana), but not understand the language itself.
Languaging is a necessary, but not sufficient condition; indeed, it
provides the skeleton of our societies.
Once a cultural dynamics is generated on top of the biological one (by
exchanging and sharing meaning using languages and symbols), this
next-order level can be expected to take over control and reshape the
underlying ones. For example, we can intervene in nature
technologically; in my country (Holland), for example, nature is
artificial and controlled by water management.
The cultural dynamics can no longer be reduced to an epi-phenomenon or
mere consequence of the biological one. The dynamics of variation and
selection are changed, since we are able to proliferate ideas as
variation (possible meanings) much faster than we as carrying agents can
turn into action and behavior (among which "languaging").
Best,
Loet
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Loet Leydesdorff
/Professor Emeritus,/ University of Amsterdam
Amsterdam School of Communication Research (ASCoR)
l...@leydesdorff.net <mailto:l...@leydesdorff.net>;
http://www.leydesdorff.net/
Honorary Professor, SPRU, <http://www.sussex.ac.uk/spru/>University of
Sussex;
Guest Professor Zhejiang Univ. <http://www.zju.edu.cn/english/>,
Hangzhou; Visiting Professor, ISTIC,
<http://www.istic.ac.cn/Eng/brief_en.html>Beijing;
Visiting Professor, Birkbeck <http://www.bbk.ac.uk/>, University of London;
http://scholar.google.com/citations?user=ych9gNYAAAAJ&hl=en
<http://scholar.google.com/citations?user=ych9gNYAAAAJ&hl=en>
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Pedro C. Marijuán
Grupo de Bioinformación / Bioinformation Group
Instituto Aragonés de Ciencias de la Salud
Centro de Investigación Biomédica de Aragón (CIBA)
Avda. San Juan Bosco, 13, planta X
50009 Zaragoza, Spain
Tfno. +34 976 71 3526 (& 6818)
pcmarijuan.i...@aragon.es
http://sites.google.com/site/pedrocmarijuan/
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