Re: [Fish-users] Copying and pasting long commands
It seems that fish also puts hard new-line in the output, so the terminal do not reformat the buffer when resizing. I've created a ticket for things discussed here: https://github.com/fish-shell/fish-shell/issues/300 regards, Maxim On Fri, 24 Aug 2012 11:39:07 +0400, Jan Kanis jan.c...@jankanis.nl wrote: I personally wouldn't find it a problem if both the ellipsis and the newline are removed from fish's output. On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 6:36 AM, Kevin Ballard ke...@sb.org wrote: I'm pretty certain the shell can't prevent the ellipsis from getting into the clipboard, since Terminal is copying the actual emitted text. In any case, I'm guessing bash doesn't bother to emit a hard newline and lets the terminal's wrapping take care of it, which allows the copy to work just fine, and I assume fish emits the hard newline after the ellipsis. Fixing the newline isn't worthwhile in fish though because you'd still have an ellipsis in your command. -Kevin On Aug 23, 2012, at 12:24 AM, Jon Clayden jon.clay...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the responses, and for the suggestions. Surely it would be possible, however, for the shell to ignore the ellipsis/newline sequence, at the very least? Rewriting the command to remove it would be better still, but perhaps that's more tricky. All the best, Jon On 23 Aug 2012, at 07:14, Maxim Gonchar gma...@gmail.com wrote: You can also bind some key to save the current commandline: bind \ey 'commandline | pbcopy' Maxim On Thu, 23 Aug 2012 08:12:41 +0400, Kevin Ballard ke...@sb.org wrote: Copying Pasting is a terminal-level thing. You can only copy the actual text that's rendered on the terminal. So yes, you're going to get the ellipsis/newline as well. Sadly, there's no avoiding that. However, you could work around this by piping text to `pbcopy`. If you have a command in your command line that you want to copy, just hit ^Aecho '^E' | pbcopy Unless you have single-quotes in the command, this will send the whole command-line to `pbcopy`. Alternatively, if this is a command you've already executed and now you want to save it, you could use the `history` command, e.g. history | head -1 | pbcopy -Kevin On Aug 22, 2012, at 7:42 AM, Jon Clayden jon.clay...@gmail.com wrote: Dear all, Before raising an issue for this I wanted to check if this behaviour is intended or unavoidable. It seems that when long commands are copied and pasted between fish instances, the inserted ellipsis characters and line breaks are pasted too, and interpreted. The practical upshot of this is that only part of the command line is pasted, with an ellipsis character, and then executed. This is quite annoying. It seems to happen in both the beta release and current master within Terminal.app on OS X 10.8. Can anyone shed any further light on this, please? Thanks, and all the best, Jon -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Fish-users mailing list Fish-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fish-users -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Fish-users mailing list Fish-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fish-users -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Fish-users mailing list Fish-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fish-users -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats.
Re: [Fish-users] Copying and pasting long commands
I personally wouldn't find it a problem if both the ellipsis and the newline are removed from fish's output. On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 6:36 AM, Kevin Ballard ke...@sb.org wrote: I'm pretty certain the shell can't prevent the ellipsis from getting into the clipboard, since Terminal is copying the actual emitted text. In any case, I'm guessing bash doesn't bother to emit a hard newline and lets the terminal's wrapping take care of it, which allows the copy to work just fine, and I assume fish emits the hard newline after the ellipsis. Fixing the newline isn't worthwhile in fish though because you'd still have an ellipsis in your command. -Kevin On Aug 23, 2012, at 12:24 AM, Jon Clayden jon.clay...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the responses, and for the suggestions. Surely it would be possible, however, for the shell to ignore the ellipsis/newline sequence, at the very least? Rewriting the command to remove it would be better still, but perhaps that's more tricky. All the best, Jon On 23 Aug 2012, at 07:14, Maxim Gonchar gma...@gmail.com wrote: You can also bind some key to save the current commandline: bind \ey 'commandline | pbcopy' Maxim On Thu, 23 Aug 2012 08:12:41 +0400, Kevin Ballard ke...@sb.org wrote: Copying Pasting is a terminal-level thing. You can only copy the actual text that's rendered on the terminal. So yes, you're going to get the ellipsis/newline as well. Sadly, there's no avoiding that. However, you could work around this by piping text to `pbcopy`. If you have a command in your command line that you want to copy, just hit ^Aecho '^E' | pbcopy Unless you have single-quotes in the command, this will send the whole command-line to `pbcopy`. Alternatively, if this is a command you've already executed and now you want to save it, you could use the `history` command, e.g. history | head -1 | pbcopy -Kevin On Aug 22, 2012, at 7:42 AM, Jon Clayden jon.clay...@gmail.com wrote: Dear all, Before raising an issue for this I wanted to check if this behaviour is intended or unavoidable. It seems that when long commands are copied and pasted between fish instances, the inserted ellipsis characters and line breaks are pasted too, and interpreted. The practical upshot of this is that only part of the command line is pasted, with an ellipsis character, and then executed. This is quite annoying. It seems to happen in both the beta release and current master within Terminal.app on OS X 10.8. Can anyone shed any further light on this, please? Thanks, and all the best, Jon -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Fish-users mailing list Fish-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fish-users -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Fish-users mailing list Fish-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fish-users -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Fish-users mailing list Fish-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fish-users -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Fish-users mailing list Fish-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fish-users
Re: [Fish-users] Copying and pasting long commands
You can also bind some key to save the current commandline: bind \ey 'commandline | pbcopy' Maxim On Thu, 23 Aug 2012 08:12:41 +0400, Kevin Ballard ke...@sb.org wrote: Copying Pasting is a terminal-level thing. You can only copy the actual text that's rendered on the terminal. So yes, you're going to get the ellipsis/newline as well. Sadly, there's no avoiding that. However, you could work around this by piping text to `pbcopy`. If you have a command in your command line that you want to copy, just hit ^Aecho '^E' | pbcopy Unless you have single-quotes in the command, this will send the whole command-line to `pbcopy`. Alternatively, if this is a command you've already executed and now you want to save it, you could use the `history` command, e.g. history | head -1 | pbcopy -Kevin On Aug 22, 2012, at 7:42 AM, Jon Clayden jon.clay...@gmail.com wrote: Dear all, Before raising an issue for this I wanted to check if this behaviour is intended or unavoidable. It seems that when long commands are copied and pasted between fish instances, the inserted ellipsis characters and line breaks are pasted too, and interpreted. The practical upshot of this is that only part of the command line is pasted, with an ellipsis character, and then executed. This is quite annoying. It seems to happen in both the beta release and current master within Terminal.app on OS X 10.8. Can anyone shed any further light on this, please? Thanks, and all the best, Jon -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Fish-users mailing list Fish-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fish-users -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Fish-users mailing list Fish-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fish-users -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Fish-users mailing list Fish-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fish-users
Re: [Fish-users] Copying and pasting long commands
Thanks for the responses, and for the suggestions. Surely it would be possible, however, for the shell to ignore the ellipsis/newline sequence, at the very least? Rewriting the command to remove it would be better still, but perhaps that's more tricky. All the best, Jon On 23 Aug 2012, at 07:14, Maxim Gonchar gma...@gmail.com wrote: You can also bind some key to save the current commandline: bind \ey 'commandline | pbcopy' Maxim On Thu, 23 Aug 2012 08:12:41 +0400, Kevin Ballard ke...@sb.org wrote: Copying Pasting is a terminal-level thing. You can only copy the actual text that's rendered on the terminal. So yes, you're going to get the ellipsis/newline as well. Sadly, there's no avoiding that. However, you could work around this by piping text to `pbcopy`. If you have a command in your command line that you want to copy, just hit ^Aecho '^E' | pbcopy Unless you have single-quotes in the command, this will send the whole command-line to `pbcopy`. Alternatively, if this is a command you've already executed and now you want to save it, you could use the `history` command, e.g. history | head -1 | pbcopy -Kevin On Aug 22, 2012, at 7:42 AM, Jon Clayden jon.clay...@gmail.com wrote: Dear all, Before raising an issue for this I wanted to check if this behaviour is intended or unavoidable. It seems that when long commands are copied and pasted between fish instances, the inserted ellipsis characters and line breaks are pasted too, and interpreted. The practical upshot of this is that only part of the command line is pasted, with an ellipsis character, and then executed. This is quite annoying. It seems to happen in both the beta release and current master within Terminal.app on OS X 10.8. Can anyone shed any further light on this, please? Thanks, and all the best, Jon -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Fish-users mailing list Fish-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fish-users -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Fish-users mailing list Fish-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fish-users -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Fish-users mailing list Fish-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fish-users
Re: [Fish-users] Copying and pasting long commands
And, for those not running osx: codemonkey@monkeytree ~/W/MonkeyTools alias pbcopy 'xsel --clipboard --input' codemonkey@monkeytree ~/W/MonkeyTools alias pbpaste 'xsel --clipboard --output' -Dave On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 3:56 AM, Jon Clayden jon.clay...@gmail.com wrote: Fair enough, but then why have the shell insert the ellipsis characters in the first place? Personally I would rather not have the visual continuation cue and be able to copy/paste simply. Long commands can be copy/pasted perfectly successfully under bash, so unless Terminal.app does something special in that case(?), it seems like it is something that the shell can influence. Admittedly I don't know the details of what goes on under the surface here, but I'm slightly surprised that this is so controversial. Jon On 23 August 2012 08:33, pants pa...@cs.hmc.edu wrote: On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 08:24:55AM +0100, Jon Clayden wrote: Surely it would be possible, however, for the shell to ignore the ellipsis/newline sequence, at the very least? Rewriting the command to remove it would be better still, but perhaps that's more tricky. Possible, but hardly desirable. In general, programming a shell to second-guess user input is not a good practice. Suppose I wanted to enter an ellipsis character followed by a newline in some script I was writing on the command line; with a change as you describe, this is no longer possible. pants. -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Fish-users mailing list Fish-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fish-users -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Fish-users mailing list Fish-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fish-users -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/___ Fish-users mailing list Fish-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fish-users
Re: [Fish-users] Copying and pasting long commands
I'm pretty certain the shell can't prevent the ellipsis from getting into the clipboard, since Terminal is copying the actual emitted text. In any case, I'm guessing bash doesn't bother to emit a hard newline and lets the terminal's wrapping take care of it, which allows the copy to work just fine, and I assume fish emits the hard newline after the ellipsis. Fixing the newline isn't worthwhile in fish though because you'd still have an ellipsis in your command. -Kevin On Aug 23, 2012, at 12:24 AM, Jon Clayden jon.clay...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the responses, and for the suggestions. Surely it would be possible, however, for the shell to ignore the ellipsis/newline sequence, at the very least? Rewriting the command to remove it would be better still, but perhaps that's more tricky. All the best, Jon On 23 Aug 2012, at 07:14, Maxim Gonchar gma...@gmail.com wrote: You can also bind some key to save the current commandline: bind \ey 'commandline | pbcopy' Maxim On Thu, 23 Aug 2012 08:12:41 +0400, Kevin Ballard ke...@sb.org wrote: Copying Pasting is a terminal-level thing. You can only copy the actual text that's rendered on the terminal. So yes, you're going to get the ellipsis/newline as well. Sadly, there's no avoiding that. However, you could work around this by piping text to `pbcopy`. If you have a command in your command line that you want to copy, just hit ^Aecho '^E' | pbcopy Unless you have single-quotes in the command, this will send the whole command-line to `pbcopy`. Alternatively, if this is a command you've already executed and now you want to save it, you could use the `history` command, e.g. history | head -1 | pbcopy -Kevin On Aug 22, 2012, at 7:42 AM, Jon Clayden jon.clay...@gmail.com wrote: Dear all, Before raising an issue for this I wanted to check if this behaviour is intended or unavoidable. It seems that when long commands are copied and pasted between fish instances, the inserted ellipsis characters and line breaks are pasted too, and interpreted. The practical upshot of this is that only part of the command line is pasted, with an ellipsis character, and then executed. This is quite annoying. It seems to happen in both the beta release and current master within Terminal.app on OS X 10.8. Can anyone shed any further light on this, please? Thanks, and all the best, Jon -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Fish-users mailing list Fish-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fish-users -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Fish-users mailing list Fish-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fish-users -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Fish-users mailing list Fish-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fish-users
