Re: [Fish-users] moving forward, what needs to be done (was: Axel (Was: Fish Shell adoption)
I'd be happy to add it to my hosting account. Costs me almost nothing (like $.82/month, for new shared domains) -Dave On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 12:56 AM, Terin Stock wrote: > I paid anynomously last year, which is why it hasn't gone to squatters yet. > > Gandi also allows putting another person in charge of the administration, > without transferring the domain, which is what I'm trying to get Mike to do, > if I could get ahold of him. (Been unsuccessful so far) > > -- > #Terin Stock > Undergraduate, Computer Science (CISE), University of Florida > > On Monday, July 11, 2011 at 12:53 AM, Martin Bähr wrote: > > On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 02:30:53PM -0600, Terin Stock wrote: > > I can almost guarentee we won't get it. > > After the domain expires, there's a month holding period, then it's > released to the general public. > > Who do you think will get it first? Mere humans, or squatter network > machine? > > > fishshell.org lists axel as ADMIN-C, and since we now know that axel is > still around and communicating, i think we should try to talk to him and > either ask him if he can update the DNS to point it to fishshell.com or > ask him to try to transfer the domain (i am not sure if he can do that > without talking to mike). > > either option is better than letting it fall into squatters hands. > gandi.net allows anonymous payments so as long as the DNS entry points > into the right direction, the domain can be used. > > greetings, martin. > -- > cooperative communication with sTeam - caudium, pike, roxen and unix > services: debugging, programming, training, linux sysadmin, web development > -- > pike programmer working in china community.gotpike.org > foresight developer (open-steam|caudium).org foresightlinux.org > unix sysadmin iaeste.at realss.com > Martin Bähr http://www.iaeste.at/~mbaehr/ is.schon.org > > > > > -- > All of the data generated in your IT infrastructure is seriously valuable. > Why? It contains a definitive record of application performance, security > threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes > sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-c2 > ___ > Fish-users mailing list > Fish-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fish-users > > -- All of the data generated in your IT infrastructure is seriously valuable. Why? It contains a definitive record of application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-c2___ Fish-users mailing list Fish-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fish-users
Re: [Fish-users] moving forward, what needs to be done (was: Axel (Was: Fish Shell adoption)
I paid anynomously last year, which is why it hasn't gone to squatters yet. Gandi also allows putting another person in charge of the administration, without transferring the domain, which is what I'm trying to get Mike to do, if I could get ahold of him. (Been unsuccessful so far) -- #Terin Stock Undergraduate, Computer Science (CISE), University of Florida On Monday, July 11, 2011 at 12:53 AM, Martin Bähr wrote: > On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 02:30:53PM -0600, Terin Stock wrote: > > I can almost guarentee we won't get it. > > > > After the domain expires, there's a month holding period, then it's > > released to the general public. > > > > Who do you think will get it first? Mere humans, or squatter network > > machine? > > fishshell.org (http://fishshell.org) lists axel as ADMIN-C, and since we now > know that axel is > still around and communicating, i think we should try to talk to him and > either ask him if he can update the DNS to point it to fishshell.com > (http://fishshell.com) or > ask him to try to transfer the domain (i am not sure if he can do that > without talking to mike). > > either option is better than letting it fall into squatters hands. > gandi.net (http://gandi.net) allows anonymous payments so as long as the DNS > entry points > into the right direction, the domain can be used. > > greetings, martin. > -- > cooperative communication with sTeam - caudium, pike, roxen and unix > services: debugging, programming, training, linux sysadmin, web development > -- > pike programmer working in china community.gotpike.org > (http://community.gotpike.org) > foresight developer (open-steam|caudium).org foresightlinux.org > (http://foresightlinux.org) > unix sysadmin iaeste.at (http://iaeste.at) realss.com (http://realss.com) > Martin Bähr http://www.iaeste.at/~mbaehr/ is.schon.org (http://is.schon.org) -- All of the data generated in your IT infrastructure is seriously valuable. Why? It contains a definitive record of application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-c2___ Fish-users mailing list Fish-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fish-users
Re: [Fish-users] moving forward, what needs to be done (was: Axel (Was: Fish Shell adoption)
On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 02:30:53PM -0600, Terin Stock wrote: > I can almost guarentee we won't get it. > > After the domain expires, there's a month holding period, then it's released > to the general public. > > Who do you think will get it first? Mere humans, or squatter network machine? fishshell.org lists axel as ADMIN-C, and since we now know that axel is still around and communicating, i think we should try to talk to him and either ask him if he can update the DNS to point it to fishshell.com or ask him to try to transfer the domain (i am not sure if he can do that without talking to mike). either option is better than letting it fall into squatters hands. gandi.net allows anonymous payments so as long as the DNS entry points into the right direction, the domain can be used. greetings, martin. -- cooperative communication with sTeam - caudium, pike, roxen and unix services: debugging, programming, training, linux sysadmin, web development -- pike programmer working in china community.gotpike.org foresight developer (open-steam|caudium).org foresightlinux.org unix sysadminiaeste.at realss.com Martin Bähr http://www.iaeste.at/~mbaehr/ is.schon.org -- All of the data generated in your IT infrastructure is seriously valuable. Why? It contains a definitive record of application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-c2 ___ Fish-users mailing list Fish-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fish-users
Re: [Fish-users] moving forward, what needs to be done (was: Axel (Was: Fish Shell adoption)
On 10 July 2011 11:36, Robert Shinka wrote: > https://gitorious.org/fish-shell indicates that the website for fish is > fishshell.org, which should be changed to fishshell.com for the time > being. > > Done. I updated the gitorious page to point to fishshell.com. > If development for fish is going to remain on gitorious, I'll update the > freshmeat project page to include that as well. > > -- All of the data generated in your IT infrastructure is seriously valuable. Why? It contains a definitive record of application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-c2___ Fish-users mailing list Fish-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fish-users
Re: [Fish-users] moving forward, what needs to be done (was: Axel (Was: Fish Shell adoption)
I can almost guarentee we won't get it. After the domain expires, there's a month holding period, then it's released to the general public. Who do you think will get it first? Mere humans, or squatter network machine? -- #Terin Stock Undergraduate, Computer Science (CISE), University of Florida On Sunday, July 10, 2011 at 2:22 PM, Philip Ganchev wrote: > Agreed. And I would suggest that we register fishshell.org > (http://fishshell.org) when its > old registration expires on September 18 (see > http://whois.domaintools.com/fishshell.org). We are not a .com, after > all. > > On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 9:36 PM, Robert Shinka (mailto:k...@unknownlayer.net)> wrote: > > https://gitorious.org/fish-shell indicates that the website for fish is > > fishshell.org (http://fishshell.org), which should be changed to > > fishshell.com (http://fishshell.com) for the time being. > > > > If development for fish is going to remain on gitorious, I'll update the > > freshmeat project page to include that as well. > > > > -- > > All of the data generated in your IT infrastructure is seriously valuable. > > Why? It contains a definitive record of application performance, security > > threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes > > sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. > > http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-c2 > > ___ > > Fish-users mailing list > > Fish-users@lists.sourceforge.net (mailto:Fish-users@lists.sourceforge.net) > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fish-users > > -- > All of the data generated in your IT infrastructure is seriously valuable. > Why? It contains a definitive record of application performance, security > threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes > sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-c2 > ___ > Fish-users mailing list > Fish-users@lists.sourceforge.net (mailto:Fish-users@lists.sourceforge.net) > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fish-users -- All of the data generated in your IT infrastructure is seriously valuable. Why? It contains a definitive record of application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-c2___ Fish-users mailing list Fish-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fish-users
Re: [Fish-users] moving forward, what needs to be done (was: Axel (Was: Fish Shell adoption)
Agreed. And I would suggest that we register fishshell.org when its old registration expires on September 18 (see http://whois.domaintools.com/fishshell.org). We are not a .com, after all. On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 9:36 PM, Robert Shinka wrote: > https://gitorious.org/fish-shell indicates that the website for fish is > fishshell.org, which should be changed to fishshell.com for the time being. > > If development for fish is going to remain on gitorious, I'll update the > freshmeat project page to include that as well. > > -- > All of the data generated in your IT infrastructure is seriously valuable. > Why? It contains a definitive record of application performance, security > threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes > sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-c2 > ___ > Fish-users mailing list > Fish-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fish-users > -- All of the data generated in your IT infrastructure is seriously valuable. Why? It contains a definitive record of application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-c2 ___ Fish-users mailing list Fish-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fish-users
Re: [Fish-users] moving forward, what needs to be done (was: Axel (Was: Fish Shell adoption)
https://gitorious.org/fish-shell indicates that the website for fish is fishshell.org, which should be changed to fishshell.com for the time being. If development for fish is going to remain on gitorious, I'll update the freshmeat project page to include that as well. -- All of the data generated in your IT infrastructure is seriously valuable. Why? It contains a definitive record of application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-c2 ___ Fish-users mailing list Fish-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fish-users
Re: [Fish-users] moving forward, what needs to be done (was: Axel (Was: Fish Shell adoption)
It's a standard Linux stack. Right now the main site is static content. I'm currently working on migrating to Redmine -- #Terin Stock Undergraduate, Computer Science (CISE), University of Florida On Friday, July 8, 2011 at 7:43 AM, Patrick Mc(avery wrote: > So I don't actually know who is in control of the mailing list? Is it > Terin? He is in control of fishshell.com (http://fishshell.com) right? What > is fishshell.com (http://fishshell.com) > running on in terms of a framework or is it all static content? Is there > anyway to help Terin with the site? once we have a wiki again I would > like to contribute but setting up the wiki may or may not be that simple. -- All of the data generated in your IT infrastructure is seriously valuable. Why? It contains a definitive record of application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-c2___ Fish-users mailing list Fish-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fish-users
Re: [Fish-users] moving forward, what needs to be done (was: Axel (Was: Fish Shell adoption)
Heya Patrick, Nice to see the jolt of energy. :) I keep wanting to help with this project as well (fish is cool), but time seems to fight me. As well as the work on github, there's also the codebase over at gitorious ( https://gitorious.org/fish-shell). It has seen a bit of bugfix and feature action from several people, so it'd be a shame to lose that work. An "official" shift to github may be beneficial, if it hasn't already happened, since in my mind gitorious' lack of an issue tracker is a problem. There's the bug tracker on the sourceforge account, that also hosts this mailing list. But we don't have the keys to that. People can -- and did -- lodge new bugs, but no-one (I think) is able to update/assign/close those bugs. It would probably help focus feature requests as well... For the mailing list, we do have the keys to that at least. Over the history of expiring domains, spontaneously imploding websites, and vanishing people, the mailing list has been the constant. Kudos to sourceforge and mailman for keeping that ticking over... Doesn't add to this discussion, but I thought I'd put that out there on the archive. :) tl;dr: * several folk on this list have the keys to gitorious.org/fish-shell, and this mailing list, so access can be arranged for those. * need a bug/issue tracker that we can actually use. - Chris. On 8 July 2011 23:43, Patrick Mc(avery wrote: > "" lets hack!" > > Indeed! > > So again I am the newbie and might not have things straight > > 1)fishshell.org is expiring in September and presumably Axel won't renew > but Terin Stock has volunteered to shoulder this > > 2)fishshell.com is the interim site and has code mirrored from > fishshell.org before it reverted to "it works" > > 3)The wiki was partly lost in the transfer but Martin Bähr has a copy > from August 2010 > > 4)There is some development being done on github but the site does not > currently point there > Please correct false statements... > > > > So I don't actually know who is in control of the mailing list? Is it > Terin? He is in control of fishshell.com right? What is fishshell.com > running on in terms of a framework or is it all static content? Is there > anyway to help Terin with the site? once we have a wiki again I would > like to contribute but setting up the wiki may or may not be that simple. > > Attachments are usually frowned upon on mailing lists but this is a > small one. What if I started a block level SVG diagram of code base and > mailed it to the list? If people can install Inkscape then they could > mail corrections back to the list. Eventually we could form a working > diagram of the code base, would this not make it easier to get new > developers? > > If the wiki is going to take sometime, could I start a Google doc and > invite everyone to edit it and we could build up the knowledge base > again? If I could get the old wiki from Aug/2010 then that would be good. > > Any other suggestions? > > > P.S > "and list want needs to be done" > I meant "list what needs to be done" in my last post. As a native > English speaker I have no defence for my poor spelling. It is the > motivation behind my domain SpellingBeeWinnars.org, sorry about that > > > -- > All of the data generated in your IT infrastructure is seriously valuable. > Why? It contains a definitive record of application performance, security > threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes > sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-c2 > ___ > Fish-users mailing list > Fish-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fish-users > -- All of the data generated in your IT infrastructure is seriously valuable. Why? It contains a definitive record of application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-c2___ Fish-users mailing list Fish-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fish-users
Re: [Fish-users] moving forward, what needs to be done (was: Axel (Was: Fish Shell adoption)
On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 5:27 PM, David Frascone wrote: > > On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 7:43 AM, Patrick Mc(avery < > patr...@spellingbeewinnars.org> wrote: >> >> 4)There is some development being done on github but the site does not >> currently point there >> Please correct false statements... >> >> > I believe the current repositories are on gitorious. > True, my mistake. http://gitorious.org/fish-shell -- All of the data generated in your IT infrastructure is seriously valuable. Why? It contains a definitive record of application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-c2___ Fish-users mailing list Fish-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fish-users
Re: [Fish-users] moving forward, what needs to be done (was: Axel (Was: Fish Shell adoption)
On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 7:43 AM, Patrick Mc(avery < patr...@spellingbeewinnars.org> wrote: > > 4)There is some development being done on github but the site does not > currently point there > Please correct false statements... > > I believe the current repositories are on gitorious. -Dave -- All of the data generated in your IT infrastructure is seriously valuable. Why? It contains a definitive record of application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-c2___ Fish-users mailing list Fish-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fish-users
Re: [Fish-users] moving forward, what needs to be done (was: Axel (Was: Fish Shell adoption)
"" lets hack!" Indeed! So again I am the newbie and might not have things straight 1)fishshell.org is expiring in September and presumably Axel won't renew but Terin Stock has volunteered to shoulder this 2)fishshell.com is the interim site and has code mirrored from fishshell.org before it reverted to "it works" 3)The wiki was partly lost in the transfer but Martin Bähr has a copy from August 2010 4)There is some development being done on github but the site does not currently point there Please correct false statements... So I don't actually know who is in control of the mailing list? Is it Terin? He is in control of fishshell.com right? What is fishshell.com running on in terms of a framework or is it all static content? Is there anyway to help Terin with the site? once we have a wiki again I would like to contribute but setting up the wiki may or may not be that simple. Attachments are usually frowned upon on mailing lists but this is a small one. What if I started a block level SVG diagram of code base and mailed it to the list? If people can install Inkscape then they could mail corrections back to the list. Eventually we could form a working diagram of the code base, would this not make it easier to get new developers? If the wiki is going to take sometime, could I start a Google doc and invite everyone to edit it and we could build up the knowledge base again? If I could get the old wiki from Aug/2010 then that would be good. Any other suggestions? P.S "and list want needs to be done" I meant "list what needs to be done" in my last post. As a native English speaker I have no defence for my poor spelling. It is the motivation behind my domain SpellingBeeWinnars.org, sorry about that -- All of the data generated in your IT infrastructure is seriously valuable. Why? It contains a definitive record of application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-c2 ___ Fish-users mailing list Fish-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fish-users
