Re: [Fish-users] moving forward, what needs to be done (was: Axel (Was: Fish Shell adoption)

2011-07-11 Thread Martin Bähr
On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 02:30:53PM -0600, Terin Stock wrote:
 I can almost guarentee we won't get it.
 
 After the domain expires, there's a month holding period, then it's released 
 to the general public.
 
 Who do you think will get it first? Mere humans, or squatter network machine?

fishshell.org lists axel as ADMIN-C, and since we now know that axel is
still around and communicating, i think we should try to talk to him and
either ask him if he can update the DNS to point it to fishshell.com or
ask him to try to transfer the domain (i am not sure if he can do that
without talking to mike). 

either option is better than letting it fall into squatters hands.
gandi.net allows anonymous payments so as long as the DNS entry points
into the right direction, the domain can be used.

greetings, martin.
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Re: [Fish-users] moving forward, what needs to be done (was: Axel (Was: Fish Shell adoption)

2011-07-11 Thread Terin Stock
I paid anynomously last year, which is why it hasn't gone to squatters yet.

Gandi also allows putting another person in charge of the administration, 
without transferring the domain, which is what I'm trying to get Mike to do, if 
I could get ahold of him. (Been unsuccessful so far)

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On Monday, July 11, 2011 at 12:53 AM, Martin Bähr wrote:

 On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 02:30:53PM -0600, Terin Stock wrote:
  I can almost guarentee we won't get it.
  
  After the domain expires, there's a month holding period, then it's 
  released to the general public.
  
  Who do you think will get it first? Mere humans, or squatter network 
  machine?
 
 fishshell.org (http://fishshell.org) lists axel as ADMIN-C, and since we now 
 know that axel is
 still around and communicating, i think we should try to talk to him and
 either ask him if he can update the DNS to point it to fishshell.com 
 (http://fishshell.com) or
 ask him to try to transfer the domain (i am not sure if he can do that
 without talking to mike). 
 
 either option is better than letting it fall into squatters hands.
 gandi.net (http://gandi.net) allows anonymous payments so as long as the DNS 
 entry points
 into the right direction, the domain can be used.
 
 greetings, martin.
 -- 
 cooperative communication with sTeam - caudium, pike, roxen and unix
 services: debugging, programming, training, linux sysadmin, web development
 --
 pike programmer working in china community.gotpike.org 
 (http://community.gotpike.org)
 foresight developer (open-steam|caudium).org foresightlinux.org 
 (http://foresightlinux.org)
 unix sysadmin iaeste.at (http://iaeste.at) realss.com (http://realss.com)
 Martin Bähr http://www.iaeste.at/~mbaehr/ is.schon.org (http://is.schon.org)

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Re: [Fish-users] moving forward, what needs to be done (was: Axel (Was: Fish Shell adoption)

2011-07-11 Thread David Frascone
I'd be happy to add it to my hosting account.  Costs me almost nothing (like
$.82/month, for new shared domains)

-Dave


On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 12:56 AM, Terin Stock terinjo...@gmail.com wrote:

 I paid anynomously last year, which is why it hasn't gone to squatters yet.

 Gandi also allows putting another person in charge of the administration,
 without transferring the domain, which is what I'm trying to get Mike to do,
 if I could get ahold of him. (Been unsuccessful so far)

 --
 #Terin Stock
 Undergraduate, Computer Science (CISE), University of Florida

 On Monday, July 11, 2011 at 12:53 AM, Martin Bähr wrote:

 On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 02:30:53PM -0600, Terin Stock wrote:

 I can almost guarentee we won't get it.

 After the domain expires, there's a month holding period, then it's
 released to the general public.

 Who do you think will get it first? Mere humans, or squatter network
 machine?


 fishshell.org lists axel as ADMIN-C, and since we now know that axel is
 still around and communicating, i think we should try to talk to him and
 either ask him if he can update the DNS to point it to fishshell.com or
 ask him to try to transfer the domain (i am not sure if he can do that
 without talking to mike).

 either option is better than letting it fall into squatters hands.
 gandi.net allows anonymous payments so as long as the DNS entry points
 into the right direction, the domain can be used.

 greetings, martin.
 --
 cooperative communication with sTeam - caudium, pike, roxen and unix
 services: debugging, programming, training, linux sysadmin, web development
 --
 pike programmer working in china community.gotpike.org
 foresight developer (open-steam|caudium).org foresightlinux.org
 unix sysadmin iaeste.at realss.com
 Martin Bähr http://www.iaeste.at/~mbaehr/ is.schon.org




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Re: [Fish-users] moving forward, what needs to be done (was: Axel (Was: Fish Shell adoption)

2011-07-10 Thread Philip Ganchev
Agreed. And I would suggest that we register fishshell.org when its
old registration expires on September 18 (see
http://whois.domaintools.com/fishshell.org). We are not a .com, after
all.

On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 9:36 PM, Robert Shinka k...@unknownlayer.net wrote:
 https://gitorious.org/fish-shell indicates that the website for fish is
 fishshell.org, which should be changed to fishshell.com for the time being.

 If development for fish is going to remain on gitorious, I'll update the
 freshmeat project page to include that as well.

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Re: [Fish-users] moving forward, what needs to be done (was: Axel (Was: Fish Shell adoption)

2011-07-10 Thread Terin Stock
I can almost guarentee we won't get it.

After the domain expires, there's a month holding period, then it's released to 
the general public.

Who do you think will get it first? Mere humans, or squatter network machine?

-- 
#Terin Stock
Undergraduate, Computer Science (CISE), University of Florida

On Sunday, July 10, 2011 at 2:22 PM, Philip Ganchev wrote:

 Agreed. And I would suggest that we register fishshell.org 
 (http://fishshell.org) when its
 old registration expires on September 18 (see
 http://whois.domaintools.com/fishshell.org). We are not a .com, after
 all.
 
 On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 9:36 PM, Robert Shinka k...@unknownlayer.net 
 (mailto:k...@unknownlayer.net) wrote:
  https://gitorious.org/fish-shell indicates that the website for fish is
  fishshell.org (http://fishshell.org), which should be changed to 
  fishshell.com (http://fishshell.com) for the time being.
  
  If development for fish is going to remain on gitorious, I'll update the
  freshmeat project page to include that as well.
  
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  Why? It contains a definitive record of application performance, security
  threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes
  sense of it. IT sense. And common sense.
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Re: [Fish-users] moving forward, what needs to be done (was: Axel (Was: Fish Shell adoption)

2011-07-10 Thread Christopher Nilsson
On 10 July 2011 11:36, Robert Shinka k...@unknownlayer.net wrote:

 https://gitorious.org/fish-shell indicates that the website for fish is
 fishshell.org, which should be changed to fishshell.com for the time
 being.



Done. I updated the gitorious page to point to fishshell.com.




 If development for fish is going to remain on gitorious, I'll update the
 freshmeat project page to include that as well.


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Re: [Fish-users] moving forward, what needs to be done (was: Axel (Was: Fish Shell adoption)

2011-07-09 Thread Robert Shinka
https://gitorious.org/fish-shell indicates that the website for fish is
fishshell.org, which should be changed to fishshell.com for the time being.

If development for fish is going to remain on gitorious, I'll update the
freshmeat project page to include that as well. 

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Re: [Fish-users] moving forward, what needs to be done (was: Axel (Was: Fish Shell adoption)

2011-07-08 Thread Patrick Mc(avery
 lets hack!

Indeed!

So again I am the newbie and might not have things straight

1)fishshell.org is expiring in September and presumably Axel won't renew 
but Terin Stock has volunteered to shoulder this

2)fishshell.com is the interim site and has code mirrored from 
fishshell.org before it reverted to it works

3)The wiki was partly lost in the transfer but Martin Bähr has a copy 
from August 2010

4)There is some development being done on github but the site does not 
currently point there
Please correct false statements...



So I don't actually know who is in control of the mailing list? Is it 
Terin? He is in control of fishshell.com right? What is fishshell.com 
running on in terms of a framework or is it all static content? Is there 
anyway to help Terin with the site? once we have a wiki again I would 
like to contribute but setting up the wiki may or may not be that simple.

Attachments are usually frowned upon on mailing lists but this is a 
small one. What if I started a block level SVG diagram of code base and 
mailed it to the list? If people can install Inkscape then they could 
mail corrections back to the list. Eventually we could form a working 
diagram of the code base, would this not make it easier to get new 
developers?

If the wiki is going to take sometime, could I start a Google doc and 
invite everyone to edit it and we could build up the knowledge base 
again? If I could get the old wiki from Aug/2010 then that would be good.

Any other suggestions?


P.S
and list want needs to be done
I meant list what needs to be done in my last post. As a native 
English speaker I have no defence for my poor spelling. It is the 
motivation behind my domain SpellingBeeWinnars.org, sorry about that

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Re: [Fish-users] moving forward, what needs to be done (was: Axel (Was: Fish Shell adoption)

2011-07-08 Thread David Frascone
On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 7:43 AM, Patrick Mc(avery 
patr...@spellingbeewinnars.org wrote:

 4)There is some development being done on github but the site does not
 currently point there
 Please correct false statements...


I believe the current repositories are on gitorious.

-Dave
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Re: [Fish-users] moving forward, what needs to be done (was: Axel (Was: Fish Shell adoption)

2011-07-08 Thread SanskritFritz
On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 5:27 PM, David Frascone d...@frascone.com wrote:


 On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 7:43 AM, Patrick Mc(avery 
 patr...@spellingbeewinnars.org wrote:

 4)There is some development being done on github but the site does not
 currently point there
 Please correct false statements...


 I believe the current repositories are on gitorious.


True, my mistake.
http://gitorious.org/fish-shell
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Re: [Fish-users] moving forward, what needs to be done (was: Axel (Was: Fish Shell adoption)

2011-07-08 Thread Terin Stock
It's a standard Linux stack. Right now the main site is static content. I'm 
currently working on migrating to Redmine

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On Friday, July 8, 2011 at 7:43 AM, Patrick Mc(avery wrote:

 So I don't actually know who is in control of the mailing list? Is it 
 Terin? He is in control of fishshell.com (http://fishshell.com) right? What 
 is fishshell.com (http://fishshell.com) 
 running on in terms of a framework or is it all static content? Is there 
 anyway to help Terin with the site? once we have a wiki again I would 
 like to contribute but setting up the wiki may or may not be that simple. 

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