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This message is from: duane trupiano [EMAIL PROTECTED] I've been reading this awhile now and find it very interesting. On the subject of evaluations, I've raised dairy goats for 20 years and the association has an eval. process every summer. About 5 different people who are judges and have been trained in eval. go to farms locations thru their area . Each year you have a different person. Your whole herd must be done and an individual goat is only excluded after 3 eval. have been done on her, or she is seven years old. These results are posted in a book . Bucks are done also, and also his progeny 's eval. factor in on his genetic potential. While there may be some favortism, there are always many different farms at each stop watching each other get done. The judging is based a lot on numerical scores and exact measurements. While it didn't seem to help me in selling animals for a better price, I felt I was contributing to the betterment of the breed, helping people find out if an animal was in fact improving over the sire and dam. I can tell you for fact, as a veterinarian, that people will breed their animals if they want. All I have done is to make my clients angry when I suggest their lovely pet is genetically unworthy of reproducing. I think the Fjords will need guidance as to what traits we need to maintain so we don't get off into beauty pagents and nonfunctional animals. We have a fairly limited gene pool compared with other breeds. Stallions should definately be the cream of the crop...if he can't reproduce to his quality or better, he shouldn't be used. He can undo the quality of the breed much faster than a backyard mare who has one foal here or there. I'd love to get my mare and geldings evaluated for the above reasons, but as of now can't take a week off of work to trailer to Minnesota todo it.
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This message is from: duane trupiano [EMAIL PROTECTED] After my lengthy thoughts on evaluations, I have some fun thoughts.. I have 2 geldings that I can take pictures of for the cyber-eval, but I'm not good at computers, and would need detailed step by step how to do its... Mike, was it you who was in the Coast Guard? My brother was in Nome at the Loran station probably in 1969-70, I'd have to ask him. Susanne Gronqvist... My mother's parents both immigrated from Sweden. Except for a cousin of hers, all her relatives live there still, around Stockholm and Gavle. I've been over there once as a teenager. Nancy L. , I have a gelding named Luster that was your breeding mare was Frida and sire ws Hei. He was born in 87 and sold to Dr. Larry Eckman. I think Bernie Karns talked to you before we bought horses from Texas Oct. 1996. He's a nice boy..pretty calm and steady and ridden by my 11 yr. old son. he matured to about 14.2 Jean..thanks for the info on the glory bits. I think I'll give one a try. Pictures still int he works..be patient. Night all
Re: Foals
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Amy K White) Susan, I don't know an exact percentage but most foalings go perfectly well. Usually the first month is the most critical. If you can make it past that, your chances improve with each month. May I ask what happened to your last foal? If you have enough foals you are bound to lose some. That just seems to be the way it goes. Maybe since you lost your first one the rest will all go well. I hope so. There are some things you can do with pre- and post-natal care to help things along. Let me know if I might help. Good Luck! -Steve On Thu, 7 May 1998 18:44:21 EDT SSlotness [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This message is from: SSlotness [EMAIL PROTECTED] I was wondering what percentage of foalings go perfectly well? Can any of the breeders out there enlighten me? Our foaling went well, but she didn't live to be a yearling. Is it generally problem free to get them to the yearling stage? Next year we will be expecting another young one, and I would like some hope that it will go well. Thanks, Suzan _ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]
Sample size of three or more... :o)
This message is from: Ingrid Ivic [EMAIL PROTECTED] I suspect it's an individual thing. But, I know that a sample size of 3 doesn't give me very reliable statistics Hi Allison...I'd like to add my sample size of three too! I find all three of my fjords (1 gelding and 2 mares) to be much more talkative and sweet than my Quarterhorse. He's the silent type, even though I've owned him years longer than the fjords. I agree, it's kind of the luck of the draw, so to speak, but with the fjords, I find them to be naturally more inquisitive and friendly. Love 'em! Ingrid :o)
Foals
This message is from: SSlotness [EMAIL PROTECTED] I was wondering what percentage of foalings go perfectly well? Can any of the breeders out there enlighten me? Our foaling went well, but she didn't live to be a yearling. Is it generally problem free to get them to the yearling stage? Next year we will be expecting another young one, and I would like some hope that it will go well. Thanks, Suzan
Bits and Whips
This message is from: Ursula Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] SueI will check with Ann and Gayle about the questions you raised re: whips and bits. Ann normally rides with a dressage whip but I can't remember if she did at the last evaluation. Since she will be doing the English part of the Pre-Evaluation clinic (Oregon) in a couple weeks, it will be an oportunity for clarification and questioning. Also, I know for a fact that Karen McCarthy uses a Dr Bristol for Sven and she participated in the last evaluation in Libby. I will let the list know. Dave could Pam answer any of these questions? Also, a quick birth anouncement. Our mare Perle gave birth to a wonderful leggy (39) colt Monday night. A son for Samstein who also entered the world on long pins. It is hilarious to watch this little fella try to figure out where they go and what they do when he's exploring. A great angle on the shoulder, too. He will be a good mover. Since we have also sold out our sales list this spring, he will be the only one available from Trinity Fjords for now. Another mare is due in July so he will at least have a friend to grow and play with. Hi Nancy, glad to hear you finally spoke up. How are the girls? We're having glorious weather here in B.C. and Brian and I are looking forward to going down to Oregon to do the Driving and Draft portion of the Pre-evaluation Clinic. I sure hope we get enough interested Fjord owners/breeders for the clinic and the evaluation. Right now it's not certain if it's a 'go' , although everyone is working very hard to make it happen. |---| | Ursula Brian Jensen from Trinity Fjords | | E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Pedigrees/Tribes
This message is from: Susanne Grönqvist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi ! Here´s a new mail from Sweden. I wonder if there´s anyone out there who maybe want to exchange pedigrees ( tribes ) with me. I´ve almost all Swedish tribes on our mares and stallions, and a lot of others too. And I also wonder if there´s only me who is from Sweden on this list. Or are there others ?? To Nancy Lehnert: I´m so very sorry I havn´t written back to you, I have had a lot to do in school this term, but I´ll send a letter to you as soon as I can. Promise !!! Bye for now, Susanne __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
New member.
This message is from: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?H=E5kan_och_Ylva_Larsson?= [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello! This is my first messige, and I hope that you will understand my english. I am an 40 years old women with 5 Fjordhorses in my family. I have just finished an education in doing homepages. I have done one for The Swedish Fjordhorse Soc. Most of you cant understand it because of the language, but maybee you would like to look at the ¨Fotoalbum¨. My intentions is that we have new pictures every month. You may send me a picture to my e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Then tell me about the horse parents, when the picture has been taken and things like that. The URL to the page is http://home7.swipnet.se/~w-71776. I am the chairman in a local division of The Sweden Fjordhorse Soc. in North Skane in the south of Sweden. We arrange training for yung horses and some competitions only for fjordhorses. My family and I partake in many driving competitions, with one of our horses. We also have a small stud. Today we have a ten day old foal. Greetings from Ylva
happy birthday Tank
This message is from: saskia [EMAIL PROTECTED] Two days late, so I'd rather wish a very happy birthweek to Tank!!! hugs from Saskia, Sybren, Kitty and Janosch.
Dressage
This message is from: Dave McWethy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Question for our European writers: How have the Fjords done in dressage in Europe? Have there been some that have really excelled?
Re: Web Conformation Site
This message is from: saskia [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, I'm very sorry... every time I wanted to begin putting Gunthars and Fj's pictures on the site, something else had to be done urgently... :-( Saskia, are you there? Would you welcome someone else taking over hosting the conformation pictures. yes, of course. And please tell me if I can help. I could add a link on the introduction-website. And of course I will put smaller versions of Gunthars and Fj's pictures on Gails and Alisons page... As I am very in love with a Fjord on a manege nearby (Flor he's called), maybe it could be funny if I went to take some pictures of him and put them also for consideration for you to tell me if you would buy a Fjord like that or not... It would be a big relief for my husband Tom if you all wrote that Flor looks ugly and very agressive!!! (While I'm convinced that Flor is just the one who can win Tom for horsemanship!). greetings, Saskia (still ice-cold and drizzly in Belgium, though they promised SPRING for today!!! (and I believed it!))
