Re: fjordhorse-digest V98 #51
This message is from: Pedfjords [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello List! Is this getting through? I have had a terrible time getting through to you! Well see if this works... Lisa ( PEDFJORDS )
Misc.
This message is from: barry [EMAIL PROTECTED] These message forums are a great way to connect with the horse community and to learn from each other. My name is Barry, and my wife Margaret and I have Village Farm in California. Since I don't post often, I wanted to just touch on a few recent issues. First, even Fjords need training and a series of books by Tom Roberts have been quite useful for me. He predates but is along the lines of Pat Parelli and really demonstrates how a horse learns. These training methods may take some time, but in the long run develop a far more effective relationship. Also, there was an excerpt from a book in Equus magazine a while back that researched horse communication. It gave a bit of insight to the interpretations of horse body language and their whinnys, snorts, etc. Concerning Fjord Evaluations, maybe they could be held in conjunction with local and regional shows (such as Libby or Skandifest out west) where there are a ready group of participants. This is done back east already, but a broader program is needed to promote and evaluate the breed. Recently there was mention of the Gladstone, NJ facility (Hamilton Farm) being developed. One of the few organizations dealing with this area is the AFT (American Farmland Trust). They seem to have a comprehensive and viable agenda for these issues. I usually give them $15 a year for their quarterly magazine. This month's Equus also had some helpful information for recreational horse enthusiasts, such as forming associations to address local concerns. Barry Village Farm Nuevo, CA
Re: gestation time
This message is from: SSlotness [EMAIL PROTECTED] Our mare was bred in July 1996, July 2 was the final time she accepted the stallion (the others occurring the previous few days). The baby was born June 2, 1997. We live in Duluth in Northern Minnesota. Is this enough info?
Saskia's time-warp
This message is from: Steve McIlree [EMAIL PROTECTED] Saskia-- Those messages from you that popped up on the list this morning have been held by a mail server in Belgium since as long ago as March 31! Pretty weird. For some reason it decided to turn them all loose this morning. For everyone else who might have been shocked by the statistics in Saskia's message; as of today we have 105 subscribers on the list. They are from all parts of the U.S., Canada, Belgium, Netherlands, Sweden, Norway, Denmark, Australia, and the U.K. -- Steve McIlree Cynthia Madden -- Pferd, Keyah, Skipper, Tank -- Omaha, Nebraska, USA Men are better when riding, more just and more understanding, and more alert and more at ease... --Edward Plantagenet(1373-1413)
Re: fjordhorse-digest V98 #51
This message is from: Arthur Rivoire [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is for Brian Jacobsen from Carol Rivoire at Beaver Dam Farm, Nova Scotia. Regarding gestation lengths - My breeding charts go back many years, and I have records of all the birth dates of the 50 + foals born on our farm. In addition, all our breeding has been done in hand, so I know exactly the gestation periods. . . . . So, if I can find the time, I will compile these records for you. You may have to wait until winter which is my time to work in the office. Off the top of my head, I've always been under the impression that our mares foaled early, rather than late. Two years ago, all of them foaled between three weeks and two weeks early. This year, however, the two that have foaled so far, were four days late, and ten days late. Regards, Carol
Love those VETS!!! :o)
This message is from: Ingrid Ivic [EMAIL PROTECTED] And to everyone else, if you have a good veterinarian that you appreciate, please let them know often! The thing that keeps most veterinarians doing what they do is knowing that you appreciate them. They risk being kicked, bitten and trampled every day, they could be making better money and have better hours by being people doctors, and (as with all professions I guess) people are more demanding and less appreciative all the time. So if you love 'em, let 'em know! Sincerely, Brian Jacobsen AMEN!!! Our vets are the bestwe love them and they know it! Nothing makes your client feel better than explaining the situation as best you can in laymen's terms, being sympathetic and by being available during a crisis. Let's hear it for the veterinarians in our lives! A big THANKYOU from Ingrid :o)
Re: Dressage awards
This message is from: Mike May [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 08:40 AM 5/11/98 -0700, you wrote: This message is from: the Sessoms' [EMAIL PROTECTED] I received the US Dressage Federation '97 Yearbook in the mail yesterday. Congratulations to: Taffy Plaisted (rider) and Martha Lange (owner) from Colorado who brought RT SOLVEIG (Grand X Krista II) to the first place Training Level Award. And a second Training Level Award went to ROLLO (Knut X Rachael) owned and ridden by Elaine Olsen of California. Since this is my first year with Fjords and as a member of the USDF, I must admit my disappointment that there were only two Fjords mentioned for awards. (the Curlies even beat us!) I know from riding my old broodmare that they have good minds and are quite capable of steady work, great gaits and excellent collection and extension. Does anyone know ... have Fjords in previous years gone to a higher level? How high have they gone in other countries? Ann Applebee has had awards from the USDF at the Prix St George level with Wez. She was in the process of moving last year and didn't compete like she usually does. Maybe she will be back again this year.
Re: Dressage awards
This message is from: Northhorse [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 98-05-11 11:25:49 EDT, you write: Ann Applebee has had awards from the USDF at the Prix St George level with Wez. Juniper is up at Creekside right now being bred to Misha. Watching Anne put Misha through his paces, and seeing how sweet, kind, and what a breathtaking mover he is was part of what led me to picking Misha as the dad of my next foal. Ride him one day, breed him the next, and the disposition is still wonderful. Pamela
Re: reply to the Trupiano's intro
This message is from: Mike May [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 07:24 AM 5/11/98 -0600, you wrote: This message is from: Amy K. White [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well I already knew that actually ;-) You told me about that before. I really didn't realize there were so many husband/wife vets around. I suppose it makes sense though, I am sure most of you met in college or something like that. Mike, you're right. I think many vet couples pair off in school because in vet school you don't have time for many outside interests and you both have at least one big common goal, which is to make it through school! For example, in our graduating class of 80, six couples ended up getting married (though 2 couples are now divorced). Probably the same thing happens in other professions, such as human medicine and law. You know how adversity sometimes brings people together, like when they think they are not going to survive a terrible ordeal (a la Christie Brinkley and the ski lift incident in which she met one of her former husbands)? There's probably an element of that at work, too! :) Hello Trupianos and Jacobsens! Makes a lot of sense I guess. === Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry http://www.nfhr.com Mike May, Registrar mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Webster, NY, USA (Suburb of Rochester) Voice 716-872-4114 FAX 716-787-0497 ===
Re: fjord grazing
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Regarding putting out horses on too rich pasture, the answer is just to have more fjords! I say that only partly in jest, since our 12 fjords can make short work of the relatively small pastures we divide our land into without apparent ill effect. Perhaps you could try the intensive rotational grazing method that dairy farmers use. I think the answer to overly fit animals, is to use them, use them, use them (admittedly, not always easy to do). Also, we maintain about 30 head of Nubian and French/American alpine dairy goats who go onto the same pastures. Believe me, with their 4 stomachs, they are always hungry, plus they will eat things in the pasture that horses won't touch (e.g., milkweed, bull thistle, multiflora rose, trees, etc.). They will also eat where the horses leave manure, with no apparent ill effect. As I understand it, this is not a probelm since the two species do not share parasites. Vets on the list, care to comment? On this subject (vets on the list), think it's great that you appear to be willing to share your professional knowledge and opinions with the other participants. Sort of a virtual house call. Bill
Re: reply to the Trupiano's intro
This message is from: Amy K. White [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 07:13 AM 5/11/98 -0400, you wrote: This message is from: Mike May [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 11:09 PM 5/10/98 -0400, you wrote: This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (BRIAN C JACOBSEN) P.S. We work for a husband and wife veterinary team. What do you think about that Mike?! ;-) Well I already knew that actually ;-) You told me about that before. I really didn't realize there were so many husband/wife vets around. I suppose it makes sense though, I am sure most of you met in college or something like that. Mike, you're right. I think many vet couples pair off in school because in vet school you don't have time for many outside interests and you both have at least one big common goal, which is to make it through school! For example, in our graduating class of 80, six couples ended up getting married (though 2 couples are now divorced). Probably the same thing happens in other professions, such as human medicine and law. You know how adversity sometimes brings people together, like when they think they are not going to survive a terrible ordeal (a la Christie Brinkley and the ski lift incident in which she met one of her former husbands)? There's probably an element of that at work, too! :) Hello Trupianos and Jacobsens! Amy White
husband wife veterinarians
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (BRIAN C JACOBSEN) Mike May asked: What is this? Is there a rule about Vets having to marry other Vets or what? Or are they the only people that would understand the sort of hours you people usually work? ;-) Mike, you hit it right on the head. Plus, there are the other things: -coming home smelling like every part of a cow you can imagine (and some you can't!), -dinners getting cold, missed birthday parties and anniversaries -phone calls at all times of the night -working 80+ hours per week -spending time together means performing a C-section on a pot-bellied pig on your anniversary (really!) -helping feed orphaned newborn puppies and kittens through the night -caring for all the unwanted animals that are brought home just until we can find someone to adopt him -the list goes on So yes, I think it takes one to understand/put up with one. So to the Whites and the Trupianos - a big double thumbs up!! To any others married to or affiliated with veterinarians - thanks and keep it up! And to everyone else, if you have a good veterinarian that you appreciate, please let them know often! The thing that keeps most veterinarians doing what they do is knowing that you appreciate them. They risk being kicked, bitten and trampled every day, they could be making better money and have better hours by being people doctors, and (as with all professions I guess) people are more demanding and less appreciative all the time. So if you love 'em, let 'em know! Sincerely, Brian Jacobsen _ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]
Re: who is who
This message is from: saskia [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello Paul, Nice to meet you! My name is Paul Milton and I have a pair - Tomas and Raffiel. They like to walk through fences and eat and when I can find time seem to enjoy pulling my wagon. I am a carriage builder in Carson City, Nevada,USA. that sounds interesting! carriage builders are very rare here. Is it a rare profession in the USA too? Fjords are catching on around here. There are 4 Fjord owners in town with a total of about 10 horses. I think the who is who is a good idea, but please keep it private. If it is accessed pubicly, we will end up on mailing lists and get too much unwanted email. right. I propose to keep it absolutely private. It's just that it can be useful to new members (or to ourselves). We can add that we will be very angry if someone abuses the adresses... I'll add you to the site (http://www.virtualbears.com/fjord/index.htm) immediately. Maybe we can change the URL from time to time, so that people who unsubscribe can't get hold of our e-mail-adresses unlimitedly? Saskia
Re: who is who
This message is from: saskia [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello Steve, I think the who is who is a great idea! Thanks for your efforts. You are very welcome! I'm very happy with the list. It's so nice to hear about all of you, I do nothing but skip and sing since I heard of it! So I'd rather say thank you to you and Cynthia. Do you think that I should put the URL in the Welcome message? Maybe that's a good idea. I'm going to alter it this morning anyway to urge new folks to at least send an introduction before they start to lurk. is it still morning now? here it is the late afternoon and I've just returned from grooming and playing with the ponies. They are loosing their winter-hairs in a quick temp now! And to all you who I know are lurking, please introduce yourselves to the rest of us. As of this morning there are 36 people on the list from 6 countries. Hurray!!! Saskia
Re: reply to the Trupiano's intro
This message is from: Mike May [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 11:09 PM 5/10/98 -0400, you wrote: This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (BRIAN C JACOBSEN) P.S. We work for a husband and wife veterinary team. What do you think about that Mike?! ;-) Well I already knew that actually ;-) You told me about that before. I really didn't realize there were so many husband/wife vets around. I suppose it makes sense though, I am sure most of you met in college or something like that. === Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry http://www.nfhr.com Mike May, Registrar mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Webster, NY, USA (Suburb of Rochester) Voice 716-872-4114 FAX 716-787-0497 ===
Re: who is who
This message is from: saskia [EMAIL PROTECTED] welcome Pamela!!! I will add your introduction (and some others, I'm tardive again!) as soon as I can. I wish you, your son (and your husband) a lot of happiness with Juniper, Nikki and the foal! I was surprised to see messages appear that I posted more than a month ago and I would like to mention that I don't know how that happened either (before you all think that I live in the past! :-)). Sunburned Saskia from Belgium.
Dressage awards
This message is from: the Sessoms' [EMAIL PROTECTED] I received the US Dressage Federation '97 Yearbook in the mail yesterday. Congratulations to: Taffy Plaisted (rider) and Martha Lange (owner) from Colorado who brought RT SOLVEIG (Grand X Krista II) to the first place Training Level Award. And a second Training Level Award went to ROLLO (Knut X Rachael) owned and ridden by Elaine Olsen of California. Since this is my first year with Fjords and as a member of the USDF, I must admit my disappointment that there were only two Fjords mentioned for awards. (the Curlies even beat us!) I know from riding my old broodmare that they have good minds and are quite capable of steady work, great gaits and excellent collection and extension. Does anyone know ... have Fjords in previous years gone to a higher level? How high have they gone in other countries? And Saskia ... I also think our FjordHorse-L pages are great. Good job! I can't wait until Steve gets back from Iowa so I can send photos via e-mail to put on my page. (he's better than me at going into dos and fooling with machines like the scanner; I'm better than him at day-to-day usage - where to find things, how to get things done with the keyboard) (and I never had my own page before! How neat!) Meredith Sessoms Soddy-Daisy, Tennessee USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Dorina - NFR Aagot - - - Fjords - Caper - Carly - Crickett - - - Labradors
