Re: Some driving humor?
This message is from: "Alison Barr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> john bolinski wrote: > Thought to try to inject a little humor from a few friends who have > helped me put together some of our thoughts on 'driving definitions'. > Remember, we are new drivers, still in training and confused with new > terminology so decided to put together our own definitions, gleaned at > horseshows and talking to driving persons: Very funny. gotta add to it, as you missed riding. martingale: related to nightingale bit: small amount in and out: signs on drive-thru windows horseshoe: describing the shoe your horse is standing on which, coincidentaly, contains your foot hunter: a type of horse that is hard to find piebald: served at horseshows with ice cream pony: a word most commonly used in frases containing swear words, and can usually be found wherever they are not supposed to be Fjord: a labrador puppy/elephant/genius cross invented to be really cute, really usefull, and really hard to argue with
Some driving humor?
This message is from: john bolinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Thought to try to inject a little humor from a few friends who have helped me put together some of our thoughts on 'driving definitions'. Remember, we are new drivers, still in training and confused with new terminology so decided to put together our own definitions, gleaned at horseshows and talking to driving persons: Harness parts: Breeching spider - an elusive or invisible arachnid responsable for the spider webs on your harness if you forget to cover it overnight. Blinkers, also known as blinders - named as a reminder to be sure to adjust properly to allow enough space so they do not crush your horses eyelashes or make him blind. Saddle turret (sp?) - where you mount the machine guns? Lines - what riders call reins only longer and easier to tangle and get wrapped up in. Overhead check or bearing rein - the part that prevents your horse from trimming the arena when you forget to mow. The part bearing the most of his weight. Hames - used as an aiming device to be sure your horse is straight. Breast collar - equine sports bra; can be used with padding for extra uplift. Meadowbrook - a type of cart suitable for driving through meadows and brooks but seldom seen on the road. Other driving and showing terms that are confusing: Forward - where your horse should be relative to the cart; or the direction you should be going most of the time unless backing up. Presence - very important for both driving and riding horses; if they are not present, you cannot present them. I am pleased that Kilar has excellent presence. All I need to do is go to the gate and call 'Kilar, want to go for a drive?' and he comes romping up like a golden retriever on steroids, panting and drooling and wagging his tail. Actually, he doesn't pant, just breaths heavy and makes snuffly nose-noises. Bold - willing to go where no horse has gone before; for instance, into the mud puddle/pond during a hot lesson, or through an opening in the hedgerow guarded by evil attack trained guinea hens. Hitchy - a term I recent heard at a draft horse driving show, apparently means 'Looks nice hitched'. So why doesn't tacky mean 'Looks nice tacked'? Rein change - honestly, I thought for a long time that the announcer was saying 'lane change'. Really, how can you change your reins in the middle of a competition! Green horse - been rolling in grass and manure Pleasure class - where the drivers enter the ring with frozen smiles so the judge knows that no matter how badly the horse behaves, it is a pleasure to drive him. Reinsmanship class - where the driver and horse prove that the know that the LINES are for. Cones course - obstacle course designed to see which horse can knock down the most cones in the shortest time while driving the spotters farthest from their stations. Relaxed - My instructor says that it is good that Kilar is very relaxed when I drive, but perhaps being relaxed enough to take a leak when stopped to salute the dressage judge is pushing things. Surely this is better than stopping in the middle of a pattern? Good hands - Kilar is 14 good hands and a couple good fingers tall. Collecting at the trot - What Kilar does when the grass is too high or the overhead check is too loose. Nice turnout - a horse that looks good in the field. Good collection - a group of horsey things you have collected over the years, like my collection of bent horseshoe nails. On the bit - look out Mama, we're going for a spin! Behind the bit - watch out for bucks!
Re: fjordhorse-digest V98 #163
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Response RE: Judgement Decisions on Animal Behaviour We continue to make comparisons to the evaluation systems in the US and Europe, presuming one is more perfect than the other. Let's look at the facts. In Norway today two systems are in place. The original multi-day stallion evaluation where the judges were given the opportunity to see the horses under a variety of conditions and uses[in-hand, trotting time trial and hitching- draft]. The horses examined by the veterinarians and handled accordingly. During this process alot is going on, with input from many individuals, not the same two evaluators in the span of 20 minutes. So, from the beginning the evaluations are not the same. They were setup by an Evaluation Committee which included individual committee members and board members the NFHR had sent to Norway to attend the evaluations. Their input on the US evaluation helped mold the format of today's US evaluation. The most recent venture into stallion evaluation is the 60 day test. Modeled after the warmblood system. The horses are handled, ridden and driven for the 60 period and evaluated daily by the same staff. Behaviour patterns can be noted and recorded accordingly. 60 days does allow one to establish a pattern of behaviours for a horse. The 100 day test is held in the US for warmbloods. It is modeled after the European system. In fact, the Hanoverians, Holsteiners, etc. insist on the conduct of these 100 day tests for the licensing of breeding stallions. Just like in Europe. An yes, someone else does handle and train the horses for the 100 day period. Some of the horses are started from the ground up while others have had early saddle training prior to being submitted for the test. Some do start at a higher level than others, perhaps and advantage. Be careful in making the comparisons without all the background and facts. What may seem to be the same name is not always the same in practice.
Re: fjordhorse-digest V98 #163
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Response to Info on Advance Clinic - Mike May Mike I am well aware of the advance clinic for the evaluation in Oregon. Gayle and I discussed the need at great length early this year. In fact, I corresponded with Brian on the format and content of the clinic. The instructors at the clinic did an outstanding job in preparing the participants. But, this is only one step. What about the owners/breeders who could not attend the clinic? What about the other first time owners/breeders attending their first evaluations? What about the owners/breeders who still have a few questions prior to the actual evaluation even after they attended the advance clinic? We have excluded them from the process by not conducting an introductory session immediately prior to the evaluation. It must change.
Re: Ortho flex site
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 98-09-05 09:12:22 EDT, you write: << This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I could not view any actual pictures of saddles on the ortho flex site. What am I doing wrong? Every location I went to there only had verbal descriptions. My web browser is set up to view graphics, by the wa >> I don't think you're doing anything wrong on viewing the site. AOL has had some major problem with internet viewing..so it's not you ,just a typical bad hair day for AOL. Reboot your computer completely( not just AOL but entire computer),. then try going back to the location...usually helps :D Lisa Pets And Vets
Ortho flex site
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I could not view any actual pictures of saddles on the ortho flex site. What am I doing wrong? Every location I went to there only had verbal descriptions. My web browser is set up to view graphics, by the way.
The Norwegian System of Horse Judging
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (BRIAN C JACOBSEN) First, allow me to reiterate the question that began all this discussion on stallion behavior and evaluations; Basically, it was "Should a stallion (or any Fjord) presented for conformation evaluation also be judged on his temperament/behavior?" Second, Mr. Hipsley has made the good point that we in this country need more information to make the best choices regarding conducting the Evaluation process in the U.S. To that end, I would like to present a brief summary of how the Norwegians judge Fjords. This information is current as of 1997 and is taken from information sent to me by Tor Nestaas in Norway. I have "cut and pasted" what I feel are the pertinent points. "The official system in Norway is based on the evaluation of individuals for breeding purposes, i.e. against a breed standard, not necessarily against the other individuals in a class. Animals are first officially judged at the age of two, but are only given a "grade" [prize] from the age of three years [and older]. Yearlings.have traditionally been judged as well, but all young stock (unless they have a very grave defect) will be given a [mark of approval]. All animals are performance tested. The criteria for being accepted as a stallion or graded as a mare is breed character and type, conformation, movement, breeding, temperament and in older animals progeny and durability. All stallions are [examined by a veterinarian]." This ends the quoting. Now I'll summarize the Judging Card they use. Horses are given points in three main categories, and if they are old enough and have offspring, in two more. The categories are: Conformation (includes movement) Performance (includes trotting, driving, and optional riding test) Temperament (a score is given by each of three people: performance judge, conformation judge, examining veterinarian) and for older horses: Soundness - Durability (longevity) Progeny (quality of offspring) I believe I am interpreting correctly when I say there are 50 points available in the conformation section, 40 in the performance, and 30 for temperament. Note that the Norwegians also do a six week stallion testing, but that is different from what has been presented above. The above is for a Norwegian "show" which is the equivalent of our Evaluation. So the Norwegians do include points for temperament as assessed by the conformational judges. From what Carol Rivoire said regarding Bob Van Bon's comments to her, the Dutch do not. From what Wayne Hipsley said, we in the U.S. are not. All three countries, however, allow the Evaluator (Judge) to assess the temperament if the horse's performance is being tested. The last paragraph was not meant to be an endorsement or criticism of any country's methods; It is simply for the purpose of presenting what is, to the best of my knowledge, objective information. Thanks, Brian Jacobsen Norwegian Fjordhest Ranch Salisbury, North Carolina _ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]
