termites vs. beavers
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (BRIAN C JACOBSEN) Q: What's the difference between termites and beavers? A: Termites eat the wood. Q: What's the difference between horses and beavers? A: Horses eat the wood. Q: What's the difference between termites and horses? A: Termites live on wood, horses die on it! Actually, that's putting it too strongly, and I apologize for being so blunt. You all do realize though that wood chewing by horses is more than just annoying? I know the messages lately about wood chewing have been light-hearted, and I don't mean to take away from that, but I did just briefly want to point out that wood chewing is not just a harmless bad habit for a horse. Plywood contains glues that a horse should not have, treated/preserved lumber contains chemicals a horse should not have, and all wood contains the wrong kind of "fiber" for a horse. Wood has too much "lignin" for the microorganisms in the horse's intestines to digest, so the chewed wood either passes out undigested, or it sits in the intestines for a while before it gets passed. The latter is the thing that might cause a wood-eating horse to colic, possibly from a blockage due to the wood that can't be passed. So give 'em more hay or more time out in the pasture, but don't let them eat wood. Sometimes a mineral deficiency is blamed for the wood chewing. In reality, though, it is almost always due to boredom or frustration as Pamela mentioned. If more hay or more turnout are not options, paint the boards with hot chilis. By that I mean either pick them fresh from the garden or buy them at the farmer's market, put them in the blender (with a little water if necessary), and then paint the boards. I don't know that storebought hot chilis wouldn't work, but fresh is better. You may think you've tried everything and nothing works, but let me tell you, you haven't tried this! Stand back because the flames can travel up to six feet! And you don't have to be a horse whisperer to understand them when they belch "GOODNESS GRACIOUS GREAT BALLS OF FIRE!!!" Some of you are thinking, "What is this guy, some kind of sadist?" But I see others of you already heading out the back door for the garden gleefully but semi-coherently, with a slightly glazed look to your eye and spittle coming out the corners of your mouth, snickering over and over "so, you want to chew on wood do you?!" Brian Jacobsen, DVM : ^ ) Norwegian Fjordhest Ranch Salisbury, North Carolina ___ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]
professional consultant for NFHR
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (BRIAN C JACOBSEN) Mr. Hipsley, If you are in favor of being considered for a position as a paid consultant to the NFHR Board, would you mind telling what services in particular you would be offering? The posts so far in favor of hiring a paid consultant have been enthusiastic, but have not given much detail. For example, are you offering to advise the NFHR on where best to spend advertising dollars? Are you able to tell the Board from your experience with other breed associations what is the most effective, efficient, and economic way to promote the breed, i.e. getting articles placed in national magazines vs. paid advertising in same magazines vs. just getting the Fjords out in front of the public? Are you able to warn us about pitfalls other breeds have stumbled into? Or would it be more of a situation where just if the Registry runs into a problem, you are available with your experience to help us out? Are you able to tell us "now that you have a breed standard in place, your next step is to..."? You can see from my questions the general perception I have of a consultant for a breed association. Is this the type of thing you do, or am I on the wrong track? Perhaps detailing what you have done for the other breed associations you have worked with would help us know what is being proposed here. The more specific you would be, the more it would help in our understanding. Thanks, Brian Jacobsen ___ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]
Vacation
This message is from: Steve McIlree <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cynthia and I are going on vacation tomorrow, so the list is going to have to look after itself for the next week. We're going to just head east from here, with a possible final destination of Lexington, Kentucky. We're going to take our NFHR member roster, and maybe say howdy to some folk along the way. If we don't make it as far as Kentucky, that's OK; if we do, we love the Horse Park. If you're somewhere along an indirect route from Omaha to Lexington, don't be surprised if you get a call from us sometime next week. If you have time for a cup of coffee around your kitchen table, we would love to visit with you. If you don't, we understand. -- Steve McIlree & Cynthia Madden -- Pferd, Keyah, Skipper, Tank -- Omaha, Nebraska, USA Then we began to ride. My soul smoothed itself out, a long-cramped scroll freshening and fluttering in the wind. --Robert Browning(1812-1889)
Re: Tillie's comments
This message is from: Mary Thurman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > We need a booklet of the rules and regulations of the organization Guess I will add my two cents worth here. Steve, I agree wholeheartedly with your above statement and its accompanying comments. When we joined the NFHR many years ago we received basically nothing except a small pamphlet translated from the original Norwegian, which told us nothing about the Fjord horse in America. Basically we were on our own to find other Fjordhorse people, find out the rules, learn about our horses,etc. It has changed some since, but not enough. Information is still sadly lacking, even with the info in the Herald. The Herald is a great magazine. But it is just that - a magazine - not a substitute for the timely printing and updating of a booklet of rules for breeding and registration of the horses, etc., and of the bylaws of the organization. This handbook would be valuable to all of us and is long overdue. Mary == Mary Thurman Raintree Farms [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Tillie's comments
This message is from: Steve McIlree <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Ursula-- Friday, 23 October 1998, you wrote: > ...the NFHR does have it's rules and regulations on paper. They > have also been published occasionally in the Herald...Often people > don't read things like that unless the matter applies or interests > them at that moment. I'm sure Mike gets frustrated because he sends > material out and some of it probably ends up in file 13 and then > people plead ignorance later. The only thing that I remember receiving from the NFHR when we first joined was a business card that we could write our names on as a membership card. There was no packet containing rules and descriptions of incentive programs. The idea that occasionally publishing things in the Herald is not good enough. If someone can tell me that the information I want was in Issue #37, that's better. But what if I didn't join until Issue #42? Or what if Issue #37 was the one the dog ate? Or what if someone in the house doesn't think that Fjord Heralds are a lifetime reference resource and threw Issue #37 in file 13? See the problem? We need a booklet of the rules and regulations of the organization that is part of every "New Member" package. Probably the same booklet could contain the charter and bylaws of the organization as well as the Breed Standard. Updates to the rules could be published in the Herald, with update sheets included with the copies to new members between printings. Print enough for all present members and to fulfill new members for four years. If current members lost their rule book they could buy a replacement at a cost that would cover printing and postage. At the end of four years everyone gets a new rule book. That's how the ADS works as far as its rule book which is much larger than the NFHR's ever need be. The "New Member" package could also contain brochures on the various incentive programs, and maybe one outlining the Evaluation process. -- Steve McIlree & Cynthia Madden -- Pferd, Keyah, Skipper, Tank -- Omaha, Nebraska, USA The air of heaven is that which blows between a horse's ears. --Arabian proverb
Re:Comments on Consulting
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >From Wayne Hipsley Over the past few weeks my name has been suggested on several occasions as a source for professional assistance to the NFHR. I am very appreciative of this support and confidence. But, I would like for the readers of the Digest to understand my position and philosophy. First, you should know, consulting to breed associations is one of the services we provide. Currently, we have contractual arrangements with three different breed associations providing a wide variety of support. This type of activity is all funded by and through contractual arrangements. We are very pleased to have this type of relationship with these organizations.The one important aspect of these relationships is they were initiated by the breed organization's leadership, not by my solicitation. So, in the case of the NFHR I have worked to support the organization on a pro bono basis.Thinking perhaps some day a "need or project" might arise to which I may be asked to bid for services. Some ask why do you provide pro bono support. The answer is simple, I like the Fjord horse, it's history and it's future. I am going to hang around in the shadows, offering some food for thought from time to time. Go and Grow.
Re: Response to Comments Regarding Breed Standard Consultant
This message is from: Mike May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> At 10:04 AM 10/23/98 -0400, you wrote: >This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Message from Wayne Hipsley > >After I withdrew from the project, the NFHR BOD generously offered additional >funds to which I was very greatful, but undeserving. At no time did I have a >professional contractual arrangement with the BOD on this project. > >My pro bono support and assistance was consistent with which I had offered and >provided in the past to the Evaluation Committee. > >To say I was hired as a consultant on this project, is not accurate. I was >another volunteer working to support the NFHR as I had many times in the past. Sorry Wayne. I just remembered the discussion on the BOD meeting when they decided to compensate you for your time. I do now remember that you returned the check that was sent to you or something like that. Mike
Response to Comments Regarding Breed Standard Consultant
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message from Wayne Hipsley I would like to offer a clarification on the information Mike conveyed regarding the hiring of myself as consultant to assist with the Breed Standard project. I did receive compensation for the out-of-pocket expenses while working on the initial phases of the breed standard project. These expenses included Federal Express charges and long distance telephone calls which amounted to approximately $120.00. After I withdrew from the project, the NFHR BOD generously offered additional funds to which I was very greatful, but undeserving. At no time did I have a professional contractual arrangement with the BOD on this project. My pro bono support and assistance was consistent with which I had offered and provided in the past to the Evaluation Committee. To say I was hired as a consultant on this project, is not accurate. I was another volunteer working to support the NFHR as I had many times in the past.
Tillie's comments
This message is from: Ursula Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> At 03:58 AM 10/23/98 -0600, >I did & I hope others will help in pushing the BOD to put the rules on >paper so we will all know & CONTINUE TO KEEP THIS A "PURE BREED" > By the way I believe someone is breeding outside the breed (They can.t >all come from Canada ) As we have come across many that are not Reg. > Friend ? Tillie -- TillieA couple of points.the NFHR does have it's rules and regulations on paper.They have also been published occasionally in the Herald...Often people don't read things like that unless the matter applies or interests them at that moment.I'm sure Mike gets frustrated because he sends material out and some of it probably ends up in file 13 and then people plead ignorance later. Also, I take offense to your comment "they can't all come from Canada" What are you implying? Remember this list is circulated all over the world so a comment like that has far-reaching effects...Are you implying that cross-breeding in Canada is rampant? I bet if all the info were in you'd find that less desirable breeding practices are widespread on both sides of the border. Shame on YOUSome of us Canadians work real hard and have a passionate concern to maintain the integrity of this Breed. Your insensitive comment hurts me but also makes me very angry. Ursula Jensen, Tinity Fjords, Lumby B.C. Canada. |---| | Ursula & Brian Jensen from Trinity Fjords | | E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: fjordhorse-digest V98 #219
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Joel a harman) This is in response to thinking the NFHR should put more money in promotion. I am not a member. I quit paying dues when I found that papers pertaining to registration of horses were not handled in a timely manner. I also found that BOD members were lax in returning correspondence. I realize that BOD members are volunteers & have a life of their own. However it is my humble opinion that if you are going to take the time to volunteer then do the task you volunteered for. I register what I can with the Canadian Fjord Horse Association. They are much more business like in their dealings. Unfortunately I have a mare with unknowns on her pedigree (some of that Purdy stock) so I have a nice stud prospect (at 5 mo., time will tell) that is not registered. I could register him NFHR but choose not to. Carol, I think you are expecting too much from a group of volunteers. I don't know if paying them is the way to go because then it is their job. Not that anyone cares but there are QH breeders that advertise line bred horses. They do this because they have found a line that they really like & so do the people that buy them. When you get a knucklehead you geld it or you don't breed the mare. One seems to get the worst of the worst & the cream of the breed when line breeding. Carol, since you are a professional you know the value of advertising. Ever think of just promoting your farm by yourself instead of relying on volunteers that have their own agendas? Of course you have! Another subject. Cribbing. Seems to come from boredom. Diesel fuel painted on boards seems to slow down the cribbers. It's organic, you know. Give them a ball to play with or run a few horses together. As we all know horses are herd animals. How would you like to be stuck in a 12x12 stall all day? Put them in a dry lot if they get too fat on pasture. They will chase each other around then you won't have to put them on a walker for exercise. Happy Trails Joel Harman ___ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]
