Re: Olympic coverage

2000-08-31 Thread MNoonan931
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Dont forget in the Disney version, the horse and Jimmy are missing either one 
or both parents 

Michele Noonan
Busy getting ready for Libby



Re: Olympic coverage

2000-08-31 Thread Bushnell's
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   (---AND I'm not talking about the Walt Disney approach to horses...you
know...where little Jimmy's 50 year old horse carries him 1000 miles, over
the mountains, on 3 legs, to save his life...etc.)  

   Ingrid, in Ohio   ;o)


SOUNDS LIKE A WINNER TO ME INGRID!!!   (o;
Ruthie, nw mt




Re:olympic cruelty ?

2000-08-31 Thread Karen McCarthy

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...  I adore watching dressage and
also team penning and cutting.  I want to see the reining competition..


Just had to jump into the fray...having evented up to Prelim level ages ago, 
and knowing what amount of training these horses and riders go though, to 
malign the whole sport because of overwrought reporting of a few 
unfortuinate accidents is really unfair.I really think the sport of eventing 
has been tightened up in the past 10 years.
Yes, there are a few bad actors in every equestrian sport, at every level, 
and always will be. Keeping your nose clean and not placing unrealistic 
demands on you and your horse is half the equation in training for any 
competitive sport, along with a quality horse and good skills.
Need to mention that TB racing on the whole is really pretty unsavory - in 
college I worked a couple of summers on the Calif Fair circuit, and geez! 
that was a real eye opening experience, to say the least. I worked for one 
trainer who was as rotten as they come (quit at day 3), then I was very 
lucky to work for a hispanic trainer who limited his barn to 6 horses only, 
and really spent quality time not just conditioning these young horses, (he 
specialised in maiden horses), but training them, basiclly giving them a 
whole education, not just a quick trip to the gate. His horses were a joy to 
work with,good ground manners, he recognised their indiviuality, etc.
Don't forget that there is a reason that there is a huge market for all the 
joint and soft tissue related products...take the very popular sport of 
reining and working cowhorse events. How many aged events do you see that 
are highly promoted? Not many horses left to enter these events! Used to be 
a horse was in his prime as a using ranch horse, say from age 7+  Nowadays a 
horse of this age is a rarity - as they just don't last that long, due to 
starting them as 2 year olds in order to make the futurities, which is so 
ironiclly named, as what kind of a future is it, as a 4 year old horse with 
blown hocks???
I am not saying that if a horse is carefully brought along it will always be 
100% sound. No, there will always be physical side effects, but not on such 
a huge scale as is seen in todays competitive world.
As I see it, the crime being comitted here folks, is that these horses are 
being asked to do high level tasks, in a minimum of time, due primarily to 
our crowded lives, and our desire to have it all, right NOW.
When you see someone competing sucessfully year after year, at the upper 
levels with their own horses, the same horses, for themselves and not some 
barn or sponsor, you just know that their horses are really living up to 
their full competitive potential - happily, soundly.


OK, end of sermon on the soapbox..

Karen
Carson City,NV
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Re: Olympic coverage

2000-08-31 Thread Ingrid Ivic
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 have you ever seen the uncut or unedited version of
 the  three day eventing competion?  I had someone record the dressage finals 
 for me
 and some of the eventing was on it too.  It made me sick to see what happened 
 to
 those horses on some of the jumps.  I heard that some of them even may have 
 died or
 had to be put down from their injuries.  It was at that time, that I decided 
 to never
 support the US team again, and I told them so  every time they asked for 
 support from
 me.  If you want to talk about cruelty to horses when they put their complete 
 trust
 in the rider, this is a perfect example. Well time to get off the soap box.  
 I also
 do not condone any racetracks and will not attend Thoroughbred or Trotter 
 racing
 because of the young age they start these horses at.
 Carol M.


Hi Carolyes, unfortunately there is cruelty out there. And 
yes...horrible
treatment should not be condoned. I agree.
 
I have a very good girlfriend who has evented, showjumped and even 
jockied at
well known Kentucky and Ohio racetracks. I've heard first hand about some of
the so-called training techniques she had witnessed. The things that were done
to these horses! (...like hot-water...where water jumps are electrified...so
the horse doesn't dare set foot in it a SECOND time...)

You can find cruelty everywhere...to horses with fine pedigrees, 
supported by
groups of investors with enormous amounts of money ---and--- cruelty to those
horses that are just grade quality, working for a living...either on a farm or
as a carriage horse in the big city. They all put their trust in us, don't
they? 
 
I would STILL like to see more horse related programming on TV. Not
necessarily only competitions, but educational and informative as well. It
would be nice to further educate and promote the horse to the general public
with good segments.

(---AND I'm not talking about the Walt Disney approach to horses...you
know...where little Jimmy's 50 year old horse carries him 1000 miles, over
the mountains, on 3 legs, to save his life...etc.)  

Ingrid, in Ohio   ;o)



Re: fjordhorse-digest V2000 #228

2000-08-31 Thread Mark and Lisa McGinley
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Unfortunately it was Minnesota.

Mark @
Mariposa

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  with the men orig. winning 20.00 for
  their pleasure classand the ladies a mere 12.00  ???  
 Sounds like another one of the joys of Utah to me.  Gail






Re:olympic coverage

2000-08-31 Thread GailDorine
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I agree totally about some of the fixed jumps jumping and thorougbred 
racing.  Why can't they wait until they grow up, so they can stay sound and 
unbroken?  After being the court reporter in a few racetrack cases, I will 
never go near a racetrack again.  It is such a cruel sport.  I do want to see 
the dressage and they never televise dressage.  I adore watching dressage and 
also team penning and cutting.  I want to see the reining competition, too 
(It's just Western dressage, more or less).  New Mexico State U has an 
olympic reining team.
 Gail in Las Cruces



Re: fjordhorse-digest V2000 #228

2000-08-31 Thread GailDorine
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In a message dated 8/31/00 1:45:32 AM Mountain Daylight Time, 
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 with the men orig. winning 20.00 for 
 their pleasure classand the ladies a mere 12.00  ???  
Sounds like another one of the joys of Utah to me.  Gail



Re: making snakes

2000-08-31 Thread GailDorine
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In a message dated 8/31/00 1:45:32 AM Mountain Daylight Time, 
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 Duh! I am
 embarrassed and distressed that I blamed the magazine. 
You can be perfect next year.  I'm so glad I never make mistakes or go of 
half-cocked (LOL).My nephew just loved it whenever I would admit I made a 
snake.  (Mistake in 4-year-old English).   Gail



Fwd: Dressage Today query

2000-08-31 Thread Mike May, Registrar NFHR

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Forwarded message.
Please reply to  Patricia  Lasko [EMAIL PROTECTED]  directly and not 
back to the list.  She is NOT a member of the list.


Mike


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Subject: Dressage Today query

I am writing a story about meaningful horse-related gifts dressage
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Re: Olympic coverage

2000-08-31 Thread Mary Thurman
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--- Ingrid Ivic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi everyone! 
 
   I have something of interest here...seems NBC is
 keeping track of the
 interest in equestrian sports...counting the number
 of hits, etc. I read
 this post on another List I belong to...if
 interested, go to their site and
 let NBC know we'd like to have extra coverage on TV,

Ingrid,

Consider it done! Thanks for letting us know about
this.

Mary
 

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Raintree Farms
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Updating website

2000-08-31 Thread FofDFJORDS
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In a message dated 8/31/00 12:46:37 AM Pacific Daylight Time, 
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 Come on Gayle! Quit teasing! We all want to see eye candy too! When are you
 going to post a photo of your Grey beauty!
 
 Misha
  
Hi Misha,

As soon as I can learn how to update my website!  I am really retarded when 
it comes to this computer.  The guy who designed my website was supposed to 
spend an afternoon with me to show me how to do that.  Unfortunately, he ran 
into some 'muddy water' and left the country. 

Finding time and someone to teach me is on the top of my list of things to 
do.  Unfortunately, there are a number of other things at the top of that 
list, screaming at me!!  

HEY, MISHA, grab your hubby  come over for a weekend!!  We can trade 
lessons
Sounds good to me!!

Gayle Ware
Field of Dreams
Eugene, OR
www.fjordhorse.com



Laurie-Libby-Video

2000-08-31 Thread Bushnell's
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I just had a thought that felt good :)

In thinking of Laurie Pittman not being able to attend Libby (and others) I
wondered if someone couldn't make videos of the parade and highlights of
the Fjord show?!? and have copies made to sell?!?

I recall this sort of thing has been done in the past.. maybe someone in
Fjorddom does this?

We'd sure like a copy I know. 

There's a forecast for rain this weekend and sounds heartening as regards
the fire situation here in northwest Montana.

Ruthie, http://www.libby.org/~bushnell 





re: VT SHOW

2000-08-31 Thread HapDayBMF
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Hello Catherine,

First let me say you did great to stand/walk around in that ring all 3 days 
at the showIT WAS HOT :-)
I didn't get to OFFICIALLY meet you.  You did speak to us on the porch...my 
husband was the one with the strong MAINE accent :)  I believe you asked him 
to keep talking :):):)   
So, now I have a face to go with your name :)  You did a great job...thanks!
Andwhile I'm here, I might as well brag a little.  My 6 yr. old gelding, 
H.D. Sebastian, won First Place in the Cross Country classand a 4th in 
the trotting race.   Not bad for an out of shape, trail horse :) andhis 
first fjord show!

Aimee Day
Garland, Me.



cat bath joke

2000-08-31 Thread carol j makosky
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Hi
Did someone send the joke about how to give a cat a bath in the toilet.
I wanted to send it on to some of my friends and some how it is lost in
the bowels of my PC.  Whoever sent, could you please put it here again?
Thank you

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Carol M.
On Golden Pond






Aussie saddles

2000-08-31 Thread carol j makosky
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Hi List from hot and humid again in WI,

I know it was discussed a while back on the list, but I've decided to
try a couple of Aussie saddles that a tack shop sort of near me has for
sale.  They are used ones in very good shape.  On weighs about 40 lbs
and I am concerned with that aspect of it and the other appears to be
lighter.  I think they are both from some outfit in Indiana.  I like the
contact of the English saddle, but want the security of the western for
trail ridding.  Thus my interest in the Aussie.  And I did ride one
about 5 yr ago and liked it very much.  So you out there with the Aussie
give me some advice.  My main concern is that they fit Heidi well.  I
won't be picking these up till the11th of Sept.  I will thank you in
advance for any input to my dilemma.
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Carol M.
On Golden Pond