Re: sarcoid

2000-10-23 Thread whitedvm
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> Sleeping sickness is transmitted by birds.

Actually, it is transmitted by mosquitoes.  Birds, horses, people, etc.
are the ones who get infected by the mosquito that carries the virus.

Steve

Steve and Amy White
Prairieholm Farm
Waterloo, Nebraska



Re: fjordhorse-digest V2000 #272

2000-10-23 Thread Alison Bakken
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Hi Mary Ann,

Welcome to the list.  It is good to hear from another Albertan.  I am
happy to hear that you have discovered the freindly Fjord.

I have 10 Fjords, 10 Angora Goats, I Maremma dog, several cats and a
meduim sized mutt.

Hope you are enjoying this great fall weather.

Alison Bakken  Sundre, Alberta



Re: sarcoid

2000-10-23 Thread Alison Bakken
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Hi Jean,

You were asking if anyone knew about a disease transmitted by birds. 
Sleeping sickness is transmitted by birds.

Alison Bakken in Alberta



Nile sickness

2000-10-23 Thread Jean Gayle
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I was talking to a friend in Conn. who said a horse had died one block from
him.  They are taking the illness very seriously there and fear it is
spreading.  The authorities have sprayed three times for mosquitoes and have
been slaughtering large numbers of crows who are the unfortunate spreaders
of the disease as are the mosquitoes.  The weather has been warm again there
and they are thinking of once again spraying for mosquitoes.  I do not have
the reason but being sure your horses have their shots for Western and
Eastern EE.




Jean Gayle
Aberdeen, WA
[Authoress of "The Colonel's Daughter"
Occupied Germany 1946 TO 1949 ]
http://www.techline.com/~jgayle
Barnes & Noble Book Stores





Fjord wanted Calif

2000-10-23 Thread Bushnell's
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A gal has written twice from Perry, California, asking about mares and
fillies (over two) for sale and asked me to post her contact address. if
anyone near that region knows of any she would appreciate your contacting
her; Trish mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Ruthie, nw mt




Re: last note on pellets

2000-10-23 Thread Lynn Mohr
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White wood could be pine but depending where it is made probably has aspen,
red maple etc in the mix.  At least that's the way pulp wood goes in
Michigan.  I would think pine is a minor component.




Re: last note on pellets

2000-10-23 Thread Jean Gayle
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To you who use dumpsters, why aren't you doing compost piles or spreading on
the flowers etc.  Jean





Jean Gayle
Aberdeen, WA
[Authoress of "The Colonel's Daughter"
Occupied Germany 1946 TO 1949 ]
http://www.techline.com/~jgayle
Barnes & Noble Book Stores





Re: last note on pellets

2000-10-23 Thread MyNorseHorse
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I went to HomeDepot today and found the wood stove pellets for $3.29 per 40# 
bag.  I "peaked" inside to see what they look and smell like.  How many bags 
will it take to fill an average stall?  Also, I checked the 
"ingredients"...what is "white wood"?  Would that be pine?  One brand said 
they used only white wood.  There is no real odor to the pellets themselves, 
so I can't tell.
Thanks


Kate in CT
Owned by Baldur
Grad B pony clubber from Mystic
ARIA certified instructor
Mystic Pony Club egroups moderator



Re: cannon bone measurement

2000-10-23 Thread sini seppala
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Mary Thurman wrote: 
> Line, has a cannon bone
> measurement of 9.5 inches(24cm). 
> I
> remember him coming back to her pen to take the
> measurement himself, since he though maybe there was
> some mistake
:-)

Mary says Line is considered draft style. Glitne in Finland I mentioned
is not heavy, though, and competes in both dressage, show jumping and
carriage driving. So a modern conformation doesn't always have to mean
the legs must be light. Glitne is not quite as modern in conformation,
though, as some other stallions over here (whose cannon bones are also thinner).

Will try and get some pictures of both Glitne and at least
Säthersblakken, the stallion who is for sale, for those of you who are
interested to see them. Will email you privately.
Best wishes
Sini in Finland. home page at http://www.saunalahti.fi/~partoy/Juhola6.html



Re: Fjords For sale Sleigh too

2000-10-23 Thread Heithingi
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Hi Janet,

Just thought I would drop you a note so you had our email.  I talked over our 
conversation with my husband and he agrees, your boys are almost at the age 
where they really calm down!  It is awfully hard to find an older Fjord with 
good training AND no vices

If you would like, we can refer any potential buyers to you.  We get lots of 
inquiries for trained geldings about the age of your boys.

Good luck at the auction and let us know what develops!  We are not in 
"desperate need" for more Fjords, but we also understand how difficult it is 
to find good homes through auctions, although there is no doubt you found a 
good one to sell your boys at.  Sounds like you really love your boys, it is 
hard not to, eh?  Take care!

Regards,

Lynda and Daniel
Bailey's Norwegian Fjord Horse Farm
White Cloud, MI
http://hometown.aol.com/heithingi/BaileysNorwegianFjords.html



Re: cannon bone measurement

2000-10-23 Thread Mary Thurman
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Hi List,

Someone asked last week what was a 'normal' cannon
bone measurement for a Fjord.  Some numbers were sent
in, some numbers were quoted from the Dutch stallions,
etc.  OK, guys, here's a number for you:  Our old
Norwegian imported mare, Line, has a cannon bone
measurement of 9.5 inches(24cm).  I measured her this
morning with a 'universal' tapemeasure(inches on the
top, cm.on the bottom).  I checked the measurement I
got with her "official" measurement taken by David
Klove at Libby 1991 Evaluation.  It matches.  I
remember him coming back to her pen to take the
measurement himself, since he though maybe there was
some mistake in the measurements he'd been given. 
After measuring her himself he declared the
measurement to be correct.

Now, understand here, Line is certainly considered to
be 'draft style' by American standards.  But, at the
time of her birth 30 years ago, this was the 'usual
type' for Fjord horses in Norway.  No wonder most
'modern' Fjords look a bit 'light in the leg' to me!

Mary

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Cool dressage experience!

2000-10-23 Thread Anneli Sundkvist
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Hi List!

I must vent my latest experience with your fjord-fans:

This weekend Cider and I had the coolest dressage experience of our lives! On 
wendnesday I got an e-mail from the woman that arranges the clinics with the 
Danish trainer Bent Branderup here in Sweden. I've written earlier posts about 
this superb trainer who lives in Germany and trains horses of all types and 
their riders all over Europe. He practices the kind of dressage that is seen in 
Spain or in the Spanish riding school in Vienna, including the airs above the 
ground. 

Anyhow, I got an offer I couldn't refuse: one of the horses that was to take 
part in the clinic was withdrawn and the administrator asked me if I wanted to 
attend! I was going anyway, but there are only room eight riders and c. 50+ 
people have to follow the clinic without horses. I've always been a part of 
this group before. But of course I took the chance, managed to borrow a trailer 
and off Cider and I went! Fortunately, these clinics are held only 50 km/3-4 
miles from where I live. 

I was very pleased with Cider's behaviour. He has only been away overnight 
twice before, and the last time was over a year ago. Still, he kept 100% calm 
and did his absolutely best, allthough I could feel he was tired on the sunday 
lesson. He worked just great on the saturday lessons. The clinic started with 
theory, followed by an individual lesson for each horse and rider. All riders 
expect myself had taken part in earlier clinics, why this first lesson was a 
'check of the homework'. For us, it was a check of our basic work: the bending 
to left/right and shoulder-in and quarter-in at the walk + some work at the 
trot. When all horses had been ridden, there were another theory lesson 
followed by more riding when we tried to push the borders to find the limits in 
the individual work for each horse. Cider did very well and was relaxed in 
neck, shoulder and body. The shoulder-in was great and the quarter-in his best 
ever! Since he had problems with his front legs about a year ag!
o, I was told to work somewhat differently with his trot: instead of working 
him forward-down, I collected him pretty high for very short periods of time, 
then work at the walk again and after that another short trot. It worked pretty 
well, alltough I have to work with myself and my aids to FEEL his hindlegs. 

The second day was theory again and then we all rode in the way we wanted to 
continue the work at home with mr Branderup helping us when there was need for 
it and talking to us all individual after the riding. 

It was a great experience and I really hope that I will get more chances to 
bring my horse to such a clinic. Mr Branderup trains several fjords in other 
countries. He told us that one of these fjords is doing the best piaff he has 
ever seen. He talked a lot about the pros and cons of the breed when it comes 
to classical dressage aka the art of academic riding. The good thing is a 
strong, well-built hind-quarters and the not-so-good thing is a too 'deep' and 
short neck. Anyway, it's great to meet a trainer that has a concept of how to 
work a fjord, even though there are different individuals of course. I was very 
proud when he said that Cider was 'a very nice boy' and that he thought he had 
good abilities!

Cider was also much admired by many of the paricipans of the clinic. There 
seemed to be a general agreement that it was fun to see different breeds next 
to the 'common' warmbloods. Apart from Cider, there was an Icelandic stallion, 
an Andalusian stallion, a Holsteiner mare that shared her place with a 
standardbred gelding, a Hannoveranian gelding, a SWB gelding, a Lipizzan 
gelding and a North-Swedish trotter-stallion (this is a native breed looks like 
the Dole horse of Norway). Cider was one of the youngest and greenest horses, 
but I also think that if there had been an award for the CUTEST horse, he'd won 
that one. He certainly managed to be a good ambassador for his breed this 
weekend, acting very calm and was willing to work and to lear all the time. The 
fact that he is very 'cute' (red dun with very dark eyes) and has a light, 
pretty well-muscled body and LOVES to get attention from people didn't make it 
worse. Most people had never seen a red dun before, so I got many q!
uestions about the colour. 

I don't know if Bent Branderup has ever been to America, but if you'll have the 
chance to attend one of his clinics - go for it!

Regards

Anneli




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Anneli Sundkvist
Department of Archaeology & Ancient History
Uppsala University
St. Eriks Torg 5
S-753 10 Uppsala
Sweden
Phone: +46-18-4712082 




Re: last note on pellets

2000-10-23 Thread Patty Bronson
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Bear Mountain makes a woodstove pellet that is fir and pine only.  They also
have a pet bedding (Dry Den) - same product just has zeolite (same thing
coffee whitener is made of) in for odor control.  After using the "bedding"
product at a slightly higher cost I went back to the "good ol" woodstove
pellets (139.00 per ton).  The odor is non existent even without the
zeolite.

There website: http://www.bmfp.com/

Patty Bronson
Paradise Acres
Junction City, OR




last note on pellets

2000-10-23 Thread Gerry_Anderson
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Cornerstone wrote:
 First of all, the bags themselves, most made in Canada, all state
that they are not to be consumed by human or animal.  Since they are
"pellet" in shape I find it hard to believe that a horse wouldn't try to
eat them at some point; epecially a fjord, who as we all know are led by
their stomachs most of the time!

This is why we are buying WoodyPet pellets @ 5.25 per 30# bag and not
HomeDepot wood stove pellets @ $4.00 per 40# bag.

 Secondly, I did my own absorbing tests using amounts of pellets in
containers, over time with water in the house to see how they absorb,
they do.  They still feel damp to the touch.  My feeling was that if a
horse urinated in the stall and the pellets absorbed the urine, you
still have damp urinated bedding in your stall.  Sure it would break the
pellet down but I for one want the soiled, damp bedding out of the
stall.  Just my opinion.

The wet pellets break down and are then mixed with the remaining bedding,
while not in the habit of running my hands through bedding, I was curious
and checked, yes it was damp immediatly following mucking, however when I
checked later it was dry.  Since switching to pellets, I haven't gone out
to find one or both of the boys sporting a huge wet spot from laying in
their urine during the night.  Which I attribute to the absorbancy of the
pellets over shavings.

 Lastly, when I spill some on the loor at home as I am apt to do
when I pour them from a fourty pound bag, it hurts to step on them.  I
just cannot see them being soft and comfortable like shavings or sawdust
is.

Our boys seem to supply their own padding.


We in our 6th week of pellets, the dumpster isn't full yet, I stripped the
stalls on Friday, so cost to date
- 22 bags @5.25 =$115.50, dumpster rental  $30.00  total $145.50

Cost over the same period with shavings  16 bags @ $3.00 = $48.00, dumpster
emptied 2x @100 = $200.00   Total = $248.00