sarcoid
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sorry for the repetitious messages, thought I was sending the one to Steve privately. Jean Jean Gayle Aberdeen, WA [Authoress of The Colonel's Daughter Occupied Germany 1946 TO 1949 ] http://www.techline.com/~jgayle Barnes Noble Book Stores
Re: sarcoid
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Karen and Jean Now I am stuck as to whether to try the herbal route as these are big and we want to be sure to get them. When the inflammation subsides we can see if these shots worked. Then make the next decision. Thanks Jean Gayle Aberdeen, WA [Authoress of The Colonel's Daughter Occupied Germany 1946 TO 1949 ] http://www.techline.com/~jgayle Barnes Noble Book Stores
Re: sarcoid
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Gail thanks for responding. Yes we talked about the various ways but because of the location and size the Vet thought this was the way to go. Jean Jean Gayle Aberdeen, WA [Authoress of The Colonel's Daughter Occupied Germany 1946 TO 1949 ] http://www.techline.com/~jgayle Barnes Noble Book Stores
Re: Sarcoid
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Steve, thanks for your interest. This horse of mine is very sensitive and has been through quite a bit recently. Aged 19 and Thoroughbred/trakehner at 17 2+ hands I discovered a sticky bunch of stuff in his groin when my Vet was here. He said he thought it was a sarcoid and in a bad place. He broke off a piece that looked, backside like a small peeled onion. He said there were several and one was quite large. The biopsy confirmed sarcoid. He felt the most successful treatment to date was the regressin, plus it is in such a tender spot. It is in a place you do not check normally. He gave multiple shots directly into the growths last Thurs and Charlie has been in a great deal of pain since with also swollen sheath and edema along the belly. I asked him to come out this afternoon and he said the area was inflamed but no infection. He gave him a shot of bute and one of cortisone and right now he seems much more relaxed. Charley has been eating alright just drags the hind leg where the sarcoids are and moves at a snails pace. The Vet feels he should be better by the end of the second week and I am to continue giving him a bolus, yellow, to help reduce the swelling and about 1 1/2 grams of bute orally twice a day. He intended to give the second series of shots in one month but now says we will wait until six weeks. Charlie, also the name of the Vet has always done a good job so hope we are on the right track. Jean Gayle Aberdeen, WA [Authoress of The Colonel's Daughter Occupied Germany 1946 TO 1949 ] http://www.techline.com/~jgayle Barnes Noble Book Stores
Re: Sarcoid
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks Mary I had Stillion out today and he gave Charley a shot of bute and of cortisone. Hope this helps as the old boy is rally dragging. He had that founder from the trim, then the splint, then all shots and float, now this. Pretty hard on the old boy. Jean Jean Gayle Aberdeen, WA [Authoress of The Colonel's Daughter Occupied Germany 1946 TO 1949 ] http://www.techline.com/~jgayle Barnes Noble Book Stores
Re: Sarcoid
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pam I understand this regressin sp! has been the most successful in getting rid of these ugly things. There seems to always be a reaction and Charley is just a very sensitive creature! There are several sarcoids and big as who bothers to check the groin of a horse? I certainly never and could not get down far enough to look up there. Right where the hind inner leg joins the belly. Jean Jean Gayle Aberdeen, WA [Authoress of The Colonel's Daughter Occupied Germany 1946 TO 1949 ] http://www.techline.com/~jgayle Barnes Noble Book Stores
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This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jean, What's the deal with this sarcoid? I think I was out of town when you first had talked about it. Why the big production? Several? One large one? Bad location? Why did your veterinarian choose regressin to treat it? Just curious. Steve Steve and Amy White Prairieholm Farm Waterloo, Nebraska
Maine Fjord Horse Club
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, We have had a good response from people interested in our Maine Fjord Horse Club. People from Rhode Island to Prince Edward Island want to join. Just a note to say that the club is not just for Maine Fjord enthusiasts, everyone is welcome to join. Events suggested so far have been a ride/drive in Acadia State Park. They have beautiful carriage trails there, and some clinics. Will keep you posted. Visit our website at http://MaineFjordClub.homestead.com/page1html Loved the plush Fjord :-) have to put him on my Christmas List Sue and Aimee
Fiskars
This message is from: Dave McWethy [EMAIL PROTECTED] I should have added that about Fiskars. Now that's a brilliant connection! They need us!
Meadowbrooks
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 00-11-02 11:31:43 EST, you write: I might have the opportunity to buy a used Meadowbrook cart. [...] What do people think of them Hate them.I waited for years to buy a beautiful natural wood Meadowbrook cart, with all the trims. Sold it back at auction 3 rides later. The reasons stated before ( sorry dont know who ) for not liking the Meadowbrooks are not the same. I do not have problems getting in one, actually its their best feature, the step in back. There should be no problem with horses taking off because the horse should be trained and used to NOT moving while you get in a cart. Starting on the run is an accident waiting to happen. Just like the horse who moves off while mounting, its just a bad habit. Train to get into and back out of carts of all kinds and GO NOWHERE. Dont hang on their mouth. Sit and read a book. Climb in, loose line, unassisted. Get back out. Get back in. Unhitch and put away for day, as reward for NOT moving off. Anyway, Meadowbrooks are not the best ride, once you have ridden in a few road type carts. They are sprung differantly, and it can be miserable. Also, they sit low and I had a hard time leaning over to see whats comming up in front of me. I also do not enjoy the rear end of my Fjords as view. ( ; ) ---back end. Alot of people like Meadowbrooks, but I can say that many have not had the pleasure of riding in other types of vehicles that have a higher center of balence and are sprung better. I have a Buckeye road cart, and love the ride it gives me. Can also have unobstructed view of the countryside, not a horse bum. Its hell to get in and out of, have to climb over the top from behind ( try that in stockings, skirt and lap robe ! ) but once in, all worth it. The WORST thing one can generally do when something happens is to bail out of a cart, so no problems dismounting. ; ) Train well and long before *%$^ happens and you should be able to fix from the box seat. Just read of someone sending a Fjord for a month of driving training. This is a good START, not finish...now go put another 90 to 120 days of miles and miles and miles before calling them broke ! Just MHO as usual. Too many monsters and not enough time hitched makes for rough going. so anyway...hate Meadowbrooks here. Lisa Pedersen
National Show
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello everyone, We at Bailey's think the idea behind a National Show is wonderful. It is a much needed avenue and yes, tribute, to the Norwegian Fjord here in Northern America. We would be happy to supply the prizes-ribbons, plaques, trophies-for the first show. Pat, let us know if things get under way so we can work out the details! Lynda and Daniel Bailey's Norwegian Fjord Horse Farm White Cloud, MI http://hometown.aol.com/heithingi/BaileysNorwegianFjords.html
WHY DID THE CHICKEN CROSS THE ROAD ?
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the interest of good jokes and the upcomming election, I'll forward this along to the list. No flames please, just all in good fun. Lisa Pedersen WHY DID THE CHICKEN CROSS THE ROAD? VICE PRESIDENT ALBERT GORE: I fight for the chickens and I am fighting for the chickens right now. I will not give up on the chickens crossing the road! I will fight for the chickens and I will not disappoint them. GOVERNOR GEORGE W. BUSH I don't believe we need to get the chickens across the road. I say give the road to the chickens and let them decide. The government needs to let go of strangling the chickens so they can get across the road. SENATOR JOSEPH LIEBERMAN I believe that every chicken has the right to worship their God in their own way. Crossing the road is a spiritual journey and no chicken should be denied the right to cross the road in their own way. SECY DEF CHENEY Chickens are big-time because they have wings. They could fly if they wanted to. Chickens don't want to cross the road. They don't need help crossing the road. In fact, I'm not interested in crossing the road myself. RALPH NADER Chickens are misled by the evil tire makers into believing there is a road. Chickens aren't ignorant, but our society pays to create the need for these roads and then lures chickens into believing there is an advantage to crossing them. Down with the roads, up with chickens. PAT BUCHANAN To steal a job from a decent, hardworking American. JERRY FALWELL Because the chicken was gay! Isn't it obvious? Can't you people see the plain truth in front of your face? The chicken was going to the other side. That's what they call it-the other side. Yes, my friends, that chicken is gay. And, if you eat that chicken, you will become gay too. I say we boycott all chickens until we sort out this abomination that the liberal media whitewashes with seemingly harmless phrases like the other side. That chicken should not be free to cross the road. It's as plain and simple as that. DR. SEUSS Did the chicken cross the road? Did he cross it with a toad? Yes, The chicken crossed the road, but why it crossed, I've not been told! ERNEST HEMINGWAY To die. In the rain. MARTIN LUTHER KING, JR. I envision a world where all chickens will be free to cross without having their motives called into question. GRANDPA In my day, we didn't ask why the chicken crossed the road. Someone told us that the chicken crossed the road, and that was good enough for us. ARISTOTLE It is the nature of chickens to cross the road. KARL MARX It was a historical inevitability. SADDAM HUSSEIN This was an unprovoked act of rebellion and we were quite justified in dropping 50 tons of nerve gas on it. RONALD REAGAN What chicken? CAPTAIN JAMES T. KIRK To boldly go where no chicken has gone before. FOX MULDER You saw it cross the road with your own eyes. How many more chickens have to cross before you believe it? FREUD The fact that you are at all concerned that the chicken crossed the road reveals your underlying sexual insecurity. BILL GATES I have just released eChicken 2000, which will not only cross roads, but will lay eggs, file your important documents, and balance your checkbook ---and Internet Explorer is an inextricable part of eChicken. EINSTEIN Did the chicken really cross the road or did the road move beneath the chicken? BILL CLINTON I did not cross the road with THAT chicken. What do you mean by chicken? Could you define chicken please? GEORGE WALKER HERBERT BUSH I don't think I should have to answer that question. THE BIBLE And God came down from the heavens, and He said unto the chicken, Thou shalt cross the road. And the chicken crossed the road, and there was much rejoicing. COLONEL SANDERS Did I miss one?
Re: fjordhorse-digest V2000 #286
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 11/3/00 12:50:18 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 15:39:31 -0600 From: Steve McIlree [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: List Archives Broken? I have also been having trouble accessing this site for the last couple of weeks. Hope it's fixed soon. I miss it! Carol 'n Patrick
Re: sarcoid
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 11/3/00 10:50:18 AM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Did you ask the vet if next time he might want to consider freezing them off instead? Hope he's doing better today! As I recall, they were described as much too big and involved for that. Gail D. Vinson Las Cruces, NM
Re: Sarcoid
This message is from: Jean Ernest [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well, considering all the pain and discomfort your horse is going through, I think I would first try the Herbal route for sarcoids if possible, then consider the other options if I had to treat another Sarcoid. Jean, Maybe instead of more shots of the Regressin, you should try the Ditton Herbs and Thuja Ointment. Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, 10F degrees at my home, zero at the Airport. Winter is here! I thought I would bring you up to date on Charley's sarcoid procedure. Last Thurs the Vet gave him approximately thirty shots in the large sarcoids in his groin. Jean Ernest Fairbanks, Alaska mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Nuclear Weapons
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 00-11-03 12:51:35 EST, you write: Horses don't develop nuclear weapons. Not sure.come see my manure pile ! Lisa Pedersen * Cedar City, Utah, who needs a tractor and working spreader to remove all the manure, not like Ca. where they came weekly and picked up my dumpster ! W !
Re: Sarcoid
This message is from: Mary Thurman [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] I thought I would bring you up to date on Charley's sarcoid procedure. Sad boy. Vet is saying we may have to put off the next shots for two months instead of one. Really do not like this sarcoid business. Jean Jean, Sounds like the old boy's immune system is really working overtime!! But then thirty shots is a lot of 'immune stimulant'. Glendar only got about 4 shots at a time, as what he had was much smaller. Made him pretty unhappy(sore eye) for about 3 to 5 days, then he seemed to shake it off and never looked back. Of course, Glendar is a Fjord and I suspect maybe a bit more stoic about things. Also he is much younger than Charley. He was only three when his sarcoid was treated. Probably still 'too young to know he was hurting'. Hang in there - the results will be worth it if the treatment works. I've seen three horses that it did work on and they are all still just fine - no recurrence. Mary = Mary Thurman Raintree Farms [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? From homework help to love advice, Yahoo! Experts has your answer. http://experts.yahoo.com/
Re: website update
This message is from: Bushnell's [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 06:49 AM 11/03/2000 -0800, you wrote: This message is from: Ursula Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi all...for those of you interested, I (read Aaren) have updated our website for your perusal. Ursula Jensen Trinity Fjords Box 1032 Lumby BC Canada V0E-2G0 http://okjunc.junction.net/~ujensen/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (250) 547-6303 YOUR WEBSITE is gorgeous Ursula! a credit to your family, farm, and the entire Fjord world in general. Thanks for sharing. Ruthie, NW MT
website update
This message is from: Ursula Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi all...for those of you interested, I (read Aaren) have updated our website for your perusal. Some of our driving guests are featured on our Driving Weekend page , Brian's Suicide Hitch on the Shows 2000 page and of course the driving debut with the 'Porsche' a.k.a Penfrydd's Raynor. Enjoy and let me know of any glaring spelling errors. Ursula Jensen Trinity Fjords Box 1032 Lumby BC Canada V0E-2G0 http://okjunc.junction.net/~ujensen/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (250) 547-6303
Re: Sarcoid
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Oh, poor Charley and poor Jean! Did you ask the vet if next time he might want to consider freezing them off instead? Hope he's doing better today! Pamela
