Re: Norway Stallion Show
This message is from: Lori Albrough [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'll help out and supply some of the info that Carol requested. The numerical scores are in this order: breed type/character, conformation and muscling, bone legs, movement, overall impression. I've added (sire x dam/dam's sire) after each horse's name... Class 1 - 8 year old stallions 1st Quality - Hildmann N-93-2695 f.1993 (Lunbrigg x Benta/Fjellfaun) Points: 8,8,8,7,8PR. 2 2nd Quality - Nyvolls Trigger N-93-2705 f. 1993 (Drago x Sylvi/Sollvard) Points: 9,8,6,7,7 PR. 3 Class 2 - 5 year old stallions 1st Quality - HERMAN N- 96-2707 f. 1996 (Saethersblakken x Evelyn/Haugull) Points: 9,8,8,9,8PR. ? 2nd Quality - Rann N-96-2659 f. 1996 (Enar x Ranja/Radar) Points: 9,8,6,8,8PR. 2 3rd Quality - Smedsmo Graen N- 96-2695 f. 1996 (Lisjegraen x Jossefine/Sylvstein) Points: 8,7,8,9,8PR. 2 4th Quality - Kim Hero N-96-2731 f. 1996 (Myklestaden x Soldugga/Karius) Points: 8,8,8,8,8PR. 2 No Liscense Niklas N-96-2609 Points: 7,8,6,6,6 (Klippen x Nikoline Vidvei/Nestar) Siggen N-96-2605 Points: 7,8,5,6,6 (Lisjegraen x Tona/Kvernbu) Veslekar N-96-2817 Points: 8,7,6,5,6 (Saethersblakken x Edna/Ernarson) Heierstads Benjamin N-97-2525 Points: 7,6,7,7,6 (Dalar x Eina/Ene) Volla Birk N-97-2759 Points: 8,7,6,6,6 (Felix x Luna/Ljosen) Class 3 - 3 year olds 1st Quality - HAUKMANN N-98-2765 f.1998 (Gisle x Lurunn/Luringen) Points: 8,8,8,8,8 PR, K 2nd Quality - Flogstad Bruse N-98-2671 f. 1998 (Myklargut x Flogstad Turid/Eldar) Points: 8,9,8,7,8 PR, K 3rd Quality - Wilhem Solberg N-98-2761 f. 1998 (Fjolestaen x Wilma Solberg/Radar) Points: 8,8,7,8,8PR. K Licensed Awarded to... Halse Vildar N-98-2643 Points: 8,8,6,7,7 (Felix x Huldra/Ljos Ninn) Dragestaen N-98-2735 Points: 9,8,6,7,7 (Fjolestaen x Drage Sandy/Hertug) Kollistaen N-98-2667 Points: 9,8,6,8,7 (Fjolestaen x Daysy/Keisar) Ramsblakken N-98-2767 Points: 8,8,6,8,7 (Gisle x Luna/Ola Gik) Prydarson N-98-2625 Points: 8,7,6,8,7 (Prydar x Seira/Klipper 87) NO Liscensed Awarded to... Smaen N-98-2685 Points: 7,6,6,6,6 (Favoritt x Veslegraa Vidvei/Breim Viking Vidvei) Ikaros N-98-2557 Points: 6,7,6,7,6 (Felix x Lenda/Heiden) Letuns Linnar N-98-2621 Points: 7,7,5,7,6 (Fjelldar x Sylvia/Myrstein) Hauge Jarl N-98-2785 Points: 6,7,6,6,6 (Grimset Jarl x Ninne/Toffen) Steinsetts Fenomen N-98-2543 Points: 6,7,6,5,6 (Gardens Tico (DK) x Rodina/Rodin) Grossar N-98-2507 Points: 8,8,6,6,6 (Haukland x Kariulla Vidvei/Karibu) Grabben N-98-2529 Points: 5,6,7,6,6 (Heia Gutt x Fronil/Fronar) Emilblakken N-98-2631 Points: 6,5,6,6,5 (Lisjegraen x Trine Fra Okland/Tonar) Ulltangs Ludvik N-98-2763 Points: 7,6,5,7,6 (Lunnar x Loise/Hildar) Rinaldo N-98-2751 Points: 7,6,6,6,6 (Sylvstein x Raia/Pedro) Sylvar Nordskog N-98-2675 Points: 7,7,6,6,6 (Sylvstein x Gyda Nordskog/Sylv Vidvei) Hog Solvar N-98-2607 Points: 8,7,6,7,7 (Viljar Brim x Solvi/Greiing) Vitjar N-98-2807 Points: 7,7,5,8,6 (Viljar Brim x Luna/Arin)
Re: SIRE, DAM, DAM'S SIRE, PLEASE
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Arthur Rivoire) Hello from Carol Rivoire at Beaver Dam Farm in Nova Scotia, Catherine, thanks for listing this information, but how much more helpful it would be if you told us who these horses are by listing their sires, dams, and dam's sires. They certainly must have been listed that way in the Keuring programs. I don't mean to pick on you, Catherine, as I do appreciate your posting this information, but not listing Sire, Dam, Dam's Sire info is one of my most long-standing peeves. It absolutely drives me up the wall! Looking at these names and registration numbers tells me nothing. If I had some pedigree informatiion (sire, dam, dam's sire), it would tell me quite a bit. Perhaps I wouldn't know all the lines, but I'd certainly recognize some of them, and thereby improve my knowledge of Fjord breeding. It would also help if you'd tell us what the numerical scores stand for. Numbers 1 - 5. Which one is movement? Which one type? Which one legs? As far as furthering our Fjord education, it's as necessary to know the parentage of the ones that got no premium as it is the First and Second place horsees. If you have all that information, there must be many people on the List that would appreciate it. It's tedious, I know, but hopefully you will be able to post the results. Thanks so much, Best Regards, Carol Rivoire Subject: Norway Stallion Show This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello All, Here are some results from the Norway Nordfjordeid Stallion Show. Class 1 - 8 year old stallions 1st Quality - Hildmann N-93-2695 f.1993 Points: 8,8,8,7,8PR. 2 2nd Quality - Nyvolls Trigger N-93-2705 f. 1993 Points: 9,8,6,7,7 PR. 3 Class 2 - 5 year old stallions 1st Quality - HERMANN N- 96-2707 f. 1996 Points: 9,8,8,9,8PR. ? 2nd Quality - Rann N-96-2659 f. 1996 Points: 9,8,6,8,8PR. 2 3rd Quality - Smedsmo Graen N- 96-2695 f. 1996 Points: 8,7,8,9,8PR. 2 4th Quality - Kim Hero N-96-2731 f. 1996 Points: 8,8,8,8,8PR. 2 Carol and Arthur Rivoire Beaver Dam Farm Fjords II R.R. 7 Pomquet Antigonish County Nova Scotia B2G 2L4 902 386 2304 http://www.beaverdamfarm.com
The Mane--again
This message is from: Reena [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you roach it down to nothing (a good way to start over if you let it get long and flopping every which way) it really doesn't look that great on most Fjords I took I believe it was Lisa's advice and roached Gus's maneand I have to say he looked GREAT with it..so great that I am keeping it that waymade his neck look better and his crest doesn't fall over now. Everyone who has seen his new 'do' really likes itI know, you all are probably cringing, but he really does look like a cool dude reena
Re: strange year
This message is from: John Bosomworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi! This message is from: Sanders [EMAIL PROTECTED] Does anyone else think this year was strange for foaling? ALL of our mares (counting the ones Rustin also breed to ) went way over in their gestation. Gestation?Both colts born in Mar. and Apr. took exactly 11 mon. and 3 days. We had a filly born May 7... she took an extra day. These are first time mommies and they are all doing fine. Fjordally yours, Eunice[EMAIL PROTECTED] John Eunice Bosomworth Deere Country Fjords Ayton, Ontario, CANADA `
Re: holes in mane/foals
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 5/11/01 3:31:32 PM Mountain Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: no grass..no holes! i hope it works I don't think it would work for me, because they do it for more than just food but to visit with all and sundry. It's not like anything really grows here. But maybe now that they're in a different environ, they'll do something different. My tenant in Albuquerque had a horse pregnant with her first this year and she was ok at dinner and dead in the morning. I have heard of more losses this year. And then with Sue's loss, I'm afraid my girls may be joining the cloister. I guess if you don't want to lead with your heart, you just shouldn't have horses, but ouch. Gail in Tucson
Norway Stallion Show
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello All, Here are some results from the Norway Nordfjordeid Stallion Show. Class 1 - 8 year old stallions 1st Quality - Hildmann N-93-2695 f.1993 Points: 8,8,8,7,8PR. 2 2nd Quality - Nyvolls Trigger N-93-2705 f. 1993 Points: 9,8,6,7,7 PR. 3 Class 2 - 5 year old stallions 1st Quality - HERMANN N- 96-2707 f. 1996 Points: 9,8,8,9,8PR. ? 2nd Quality - Rann N-96-2659 f. 1996 Points: 9,8,6,8,8PR. 2 3rd Quality - Smedsmo Graen N- 96-2695 f. 1996 Points: 8,7,8,9,8PR. 2 4th Quality - Kim Hero N-96-2731 f. 1996 Points: 8,8,8,8,8PR. 2 No Liscense Niklas N-96-2609 Points: 7,8,6,6,6 Siggen N-96-2605 Points: 7,8,5,6,6 Veslekar N-96-2817 Points: 8,7,6,5,6 Heierstads Benjamin N-97-2525 Points: 7,6,7,7,6 Volla Birk N-97-2759 Points: 8,7,6,6,6 Class 3 - 3 year olds 1st Quality - HAUKMANN N-98-2765 f.1998 Points: 8,8,8,8,8 PR, K 2nd Quality - Flogstad Bruse N-98-2671 f. 1998 Points: 8,9,8,7,8 PR, K 3rd Quality - Wilhem Solberg N-98-2761 f. 1998 Points: 8,8,7,8,8PR. K Licensed Awarded to... Halse Vildar N-98-2643 Points: 8,8,6,7,7 Dragestaen N-98-2735 Points: 9,8,6,7,7 Kollistaen N-98-2667 Points: 9,8,6,8,7 Ramsblakken N-98-2767 Points: 8,8,6,8,7 Prydarson N-98-2625 Points: 8,7,6,8,7 NO Liscensed Awarded to... Smaen N-98-2685 Points: 7,6,6,6,6 Ikaros N-98-2557 Points: 6,7,6,7,6 Letuns Linnar N-98-2621 Points: 7,7,5,7,6 Hauge Jarl N-98-2785 Points: 6,7,6,6,6 Steinsetts Fenomen N-98-2543 Points: 6,7,6,5,6 Grossar N-98-2507 Points: 8,8,6,6,6 Grabben N-98-2529 Points: 5,6,7,6,6 Emilblakken N-98-2631 Points: 6,5,6,6,5 Ulltangs Ludvik N-98-2763 Points: 7,6,5,7,6 Rinaldo N-98-2751 Points: 7,6,6,6,6 Sylvar Nordskog N-98-2675 Points: 7,7,6,6,6 Hog Solvar N-98-2607 Points: 8,7,6,7,7 Vitjar N-98-2807 Points: 7,7,5,8,6 Earn a dime every time you receive email! Sign up FREE at: http://www.MintMail.com/?m=481685
RE: manes, mules, Turlock
This message is from: Cindy Vallecillo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Carole, Oh well, here I go again. Once you start me up You need to go to the Pre-Eval Clinic that Karen McCarthy is having at her ranch in Carson City, NV on July 7th and 8th. There is going to be a mane trimming demo!!! I am getting way too excited about all this! Cindy Vallecillo The Cove, San Bruno, California -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 11, 2001 6:00 AM To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Subject: manes, mules, Turlock This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ok, so when I get desperate I will take off my mule's mane to start over, but otherwise, just like the Fjord, she gets her mane trimmed into a nice arch! No, I do NOT keep it roached!!! YUK!! It is a bit shorter than the Fjord's, though. I am taking my gelding, Nattmann, to Turlock. Besides wanting to have some idea on my own as to how typically Fjordy he is, it helps the breeder to know that they are on the right track, too, with their breeding program. So, it isn't as much of a futile effort to take a gelding to an evaluation as one might think, but can be very constructive for both the owner and the breeder! But, how could any breeder go wrong with these cuties??!!! So, there's my thought on the subjectand GOOD! for all you bringing geldings!!! Back to manesthe white is gone in the middle of Nattmann's mane.oops, oh well! So, I am supposed to evenly clip the white 1/4 below the black, and have it look GOOD??!?! So far my efforts are definitely sub par! Anyone in Turlock doing manes for those of us that are scissor/mane challenged so that we may present our Fjords to their best advantage in the evaluation and for the show!??!?!??!?!? (We at least can do the halter class). Carole Sweet Modesto, CA
Re: Carla is sold!
This message is from: SUSAN L GIARGIARI [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello Listers! Carla was sold this morning! She is going back to Carole Rivoire and Anne is thrilled! She was so worried about making sure she got a good home! Mid June she will head back to Canada, kind of like she has been on a long vacation!! Carole, you can store all that wonderful tack and equipment at my house if you want! LOL! :-) Dena is getting quite bagged up and nearing her time! We are hoping for a Konggard filly, that we will keep and add to the brood mare herd. Doing a tally of the birth dates and ages for the coggins tests, WOW! I can't believe that Stella is almost 14! We have had her for 10 years! Dena will be 18 and Rosita is 20! Stella is bred to Hilmar, last month, and Rosita, also. Dena will go back to Konggard. We are going to look at some farms in VT next Tuesday, one of which is 20A, more field available at a later date, has an indoor and out door ring, dressage size! Maybe I will be come a DQ. Of course a Dairy Queen would be more my style! It has 13 rubber matted stalls in a climate controlled barn and a huge heated tack room. The house is fairly new and needs no work! All of the land is fenced with nice wood fences. 5 big paddock/fields and one huge one that includes some woods. Just our kind of place. All set to just move in! Dick is looking at having to have surgery done on his neck discs, should have been done back in '94 but he'd had enough surgery done by that time. The pain is where it isn't manageable, without alot of meds. Him and meds don't mix! Kind of gives him a bad attitude! The plan is that he won't get the operation done until fall, when we hope to be settled into a new farm by then. Enjoy all the good weather and those of you with rain.please send it our way!!!Sue g.
manes, mules, Turlock
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ok, so when I get desperate I will take off my mule's mane to start over, but otherwise, just like the Fjord, she gets her mane trimmed into a nice arch! No, I do NOT keep it roached!!! YUK!! It is a bit shorter than the Fjord's, though. I am taking my gelding, Nattmann, to Turlock. Besides wanting to have some idea on my own as to how typically Fjordy he is, it helps the breeder to know that they are on the right track, too, with their breeding program. So, it isn't as much of a futile effort to take a gelding to an evaluation as one might think, but can be very constructive for both the owner and the breeder! But, how could any breeder go wrong with these cuties??!!! So, there's my thought on the subjectand GOOD! for all you bringing geldings!!! Back to manesthe white is gone in the middle of Nattmann's mane.oops, oh well! So, I am supposed to evenly clip the white 1/4 below the black, and have it look GOOD??!?! So far my efforts are definitely sub par! Anyone in Turlock doing manes for those of us that are scissor/mane challenged so that we may present our Fjords to their best advantage in the evaluation and for the show!??!?!??!?!? (We at least can do the halter class). Carole Sweet Modesto, CA
Geldings and Evaluations
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] For those of you that own geldings and wonder if it is good to evaluate your gelding. Yes! It is a reflection of the mare and stallion that produced your gelding. The mare and stallion of the gelding are able to be rewarded for having good off spring. The only way to find out and be rewarded is by having all Fjords go through the program. It will add value to your horse and you can find out important information for future training. Form to Function is what the Evaluator Trainees have been taught. Your gelding may not be able to do some function of riding if he is not built for it. The evaluation should help you assess you gelding's structure and help you with his future potential. Catherine Lassesen Back from Norway!
The MANE point (( (( (( (( (( -------5 Fjords
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 5/10/01 3:09:47 PM Mountain Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If you roach it down to nothing (a good way to start over if you let it get long and flopping every which way) it really doesn't look that great on most Fjords We shave our Fjords manes off, down to skin in the begining of winter, once major shows are done. They look worse than drowned rats, they look skinned Almost cry when I see them. BUT, in 3 weeks, better even at 6 weeks, they have a picture perfect Fjord mane, with a tiny sizzors shaping, and retain a beautiful arch all summer with few trims. Keeps those aged Fjord spreaders all upright. Im kicking myself over the 2 I didnt do this winterlook spread, wild and horrible already. JUST IMHO. Lisa Pedersen * who lets hubby be the ' MAIN GUYLOL. hes really good at it.
Re: Evaluations Geldings! Important!!
This message is from: Denise Delgado [EMAIL PROTECTED] thank you sue g. for explaining why i should get my gelding evaluated. it is much clearer now. denise delgado
