Soft flys

2001-05-18 Thread Pedfjords
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In a message dated 5/18/01 1:51:01 PM Mountain Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< Last year, I had read somewhere that Bounce dryer sheets worked well as a 
 repellent.  As I and my son are also very fair and attract bugs like 
 magnets, so I thought I would give them a try.  Believe it or not, they work 
 really well!!
 Lynda
  >>
 
  On a donkey list, awhile back, someone gave a homemaid recipe for fly 
spray. Included liquid fabric softner. I'll try and find it. Lisa  * 
where the flys havnt hatched yet, but we have NO MOSQUITOS anyway..!  





arabs, cookies and stink-eye

2001-05-18 Thread Pedfjords
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In a message dated 5/18/01 1:51:01 PM Mountain Daylight Time, 
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<< I did give the Arabian a cookie 
 for not killing the vet.  Or me.  She gives a really good stink-eye for a 
 horse.
  Then we went to Riata, my gorgeous Fjord mare.  Riata smelled molecules 
 of cookie somewhere on my person and began vacuuming me for proof.   Her 
huge 
 nostrils flared and blew warm air all over me, found the most proof still in 
 one pocket and gave me the dreamiest look with her huge brown eyes.  I gave 
 her cookies.  How could I resist?  Meanwhile, the dreaded vet had delivered 
 all three injections and I don't think Riata even twitched an ear.  
  What a pair.  I love them both but they sure are different. >>


  That was a great story Pam !   Thanks.  Lisa





???

2001-05-18 Thread Pedfjords
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In a message dated 5/18/01 1:51:01 PM Mountain Daylight Time, 
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<< Even though C-1389 has a tendency to sire fillies, there have been 3 stud
 colts from him. Don't know if the current (& only published) colt is
 stallion material or not.  
  >>
  why are you selling him at auction Joel ?  Just wondering..Lisa





Aluminum trailer for cheap

2001-05-18 Thread Joel Harman
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Auction Sales Co in The Dalles, OR has a 2000 18' Silverado GN stock
trailer For $9400 new! This is a low price for aluminum. 541.296.1012.
Diamond plate aluminum floor, slam center gate, 6'8' wide, not sure about
height.

No, I don't get a commission on this. Their dealership was taken from
then the guy moved it to Bend, OR.

-

I would love to have a Cummins but they make you buy the Dodge with it. I
test drove a 1 ton Dodge before I bought another Ford. It was comparable
to my 3/4 ton Ford. Went from single wheel to dual wheel. Although I lost
fuel economy I gained stability. 





How to submit comments

2001-05-18 Thread Bert Van Loon
This message is from: "Bert Van Loon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Would you please tell me how I would submit commentary on the Digest in the
correct format?

I would like to send a request for information regarding a Brown Dun ,
preferabley a gelding, for sale that would be suitable for an older child to
ride and a beginning adult driver that is well mannered, reliable on the trail
and in traffic.

We are looking for a family horse to enjoy learning to compete safely in CDE
competions.
 Our residence is in CA but we are seriously looking all over the US for the
right horse.

Thank you,

   Carolyn Van Loon





Re: Stallions & Herd Behavior

2001-05-18 Thread SUSAN L GIARGIARI
This message is from: "SUSAN L GIARGIARI" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hello List!
Just got back from Ceacy's and dropping off Dena and new filly to visit with
Konggard! Tyra is there already and totally in love with Kong! She follows
him around and nuzzles him, stands over him and licks his ears while he is
trying to sleep! Ceacy said it is the first time she has seen any mare fawn
so gently over him! He is so very patient with her, being a first time for
the mare! It was funny when we let Kong and Tyra back in the paddock, once
we put in Dena & filly! Kong went thundering over and filly gets right up in
front of mom, to stay safe while big daddy checks her out! Tyra goes running
over as if to say, What about me! Remember! ME  Kong gives her a little
uppity action from the hind end and she pouts off to the side!
It is so interesting to watch the herd behavior. My mares all get to run
with Hilmar when they are all bred. If one is in heat and I take her out to
use her, he isn't to thrilled but he knows that "I am the Alpha!" No ifs
about it!! The foals grow up with him. He is the babysitter when they are
all weaned. This year Dena was the only mare I had that was bred , so her
and Vimark, yearling gelding, got to winter with Hilmar. After the mares to
be bred were in with Hilmar, he wanted nothing to do with Vimark. Don't
worry though! I have a young grey filly his age for him to play with. She is
spending the summer so she can have a herd situation to learn in and also
play with other youngsters! Her mom, is visiting with Hilmar right now.
   I agree with you, Joel, that the stallions should be used also! If anyone
remembers how naughty Hilmar was the first year we had him and took him to
Libby, MT and how he was frantic to be with Sunday and little Ragnar! It was
Ragnar who kept calling to him across the field, not Sunday! The folks were
great and the first nite they let us keep Sunday, Ragnar and Hilmar in the
big fenced arena for the whole nite. Ragnar was born in a field with Hilmar
standing about 20 feet away watching! Hilmar did climb over a panel stall to
get to a lovely young filly in heat, walking by. Even though he was going
around her in circles, and the owner was frantically holding on to her, Dick
was able to walk up to him and get a hold of his halter, and he walked away
with Dick to the pen. We made the panels two high! Then some very lovely
Perchereon mares came into spend the night in the round pen next to the
stallions! Needless to say this did not make the man a happy man! Too big
for him Never!  He finally did settle down and I did do a Hazard
Class, but didn't take him into a cart class as he wanted to be with Sunday!
When they did the Farm Hitch Class, him and Sunday were driven as a team
together, pulling some piece of machinery and he was a perfect gentleman.
When the class was over, I told Dick to wait for me to unharness Hilmar and
let me walk away first. He forgot and took off walking with Sunday! Not! I
had to go over and ask him to please stop and let me walk away first. Hilmar
walked away with me and went into his stall. It is a phsycology game with
their minds and you are so right Joel, that it can take alot to handle a
stallion. I will be honest and say that I had Hilmar go to a trainer/friend
who would work with him on a consistent basis while she had him. She did and
he got special mention at the VT Show for being one of the most fit horses
the judge had seen in awhile! I needed to work with my mares and young stock
and it is a full time job for me to stay involved and on top of Anthony's
schooling and special needs!
 Hilmar pulls logs with other horses, geldings, he is hitched to do work
with the mares, taken to an indoor to work and he has matured alot and
learned alot, and we have learned with him. I trail ride him with others and
he will be a good boy. I will say that Vick's in the nose really does help!!
When I remember it!  I guess no matter what, you always have to remember
that "a horse, is a horse, is a horse, and a stallion is a stallion, is a
stallion! This advice was given to me when I took a Harness Racing Course at
Foxboro Raceway in MA. I have never forgotten it. When people say things
like, My horse never does that! Or , My horse would never do that! I ask
them if they have special powers that let them know that! VBG!
Sorry to go on so long!  Just love to talk about behaviors and herd stuff. I
could sit out in the pasture and watch all day long! What an education!
Nice and misty all day today in NH!   Sue g.





Re: (no subject)

2001-05-18 Thread Jean Gayle
This message is from: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Amy I am so concerned about virus' sneaking into my machine I hesitate to
open anything not known.  when I went in to the site you had in your message
re horse medical it does not identify who or what it is, just "sign in".
Can you tell me what it contains?


Jean Walters Gayle
Aberdeen, WA
[Authoress of "The Colonel's Daughter"
Occupied Germany 1946 TO 1949 ]
http://users.techline.com/jgayle
Three Horses Press
PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563





Re: trail riding

2001-05-18 Thread John & Martie Bolinski
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Try tucking one of those skin-so-soft wipes into the bridle behind the horses
ears.  Works pretty good for misquitoes.

Martie in MD

truman matz wrote:

> T*
> Have you ever tried Skin So Soft by Avon?





Re: Just Another Fjord Story

2001-05-18 Thread John & Martie Bolinski
This message is from: John & Martie Bolinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Having just finished with the aftermath of spring shots, I share the opinion
that Fjords are SO much different than the other breeds!  Our two Fjords took
their shots, including, for Kilar,  the new 'nasal adminstered' dose of
something or other with no complaints.  The quarter horse fell asleep, the Arab
took the regular shots well, but would NOT allow the vet to put anything up his
nose.  This from a horse who is always sticking things up his own nose!  We had
to go with the ear twist and neck pinch to get him done.  I cannot imagine doing
this myself!
Then 1/2 hour after the shots, the little pony, Wee Willy was down.  Flat.  And
would not get up without my help.  Had to have the vet back immediately;
fortunately, he had only gotten as far as the next farm and was back inside of
15 minutes.  Wee had a severe colic.  Followup over the next couple days was
intense - reaction to the shots was ruled out although the 'trauma' was blamed
for helping to show the colic symptoms.  Evidently Wee has had a problem we did
not see for some time.  With all the attention from us and the vet, he got a
little hard to catch after a couple days, but low and behold - the Fjords help
me round him up everyday for his meds.  They corner him in the corral and hold
him for me to catch.  So neat!  Not that Wee appreciates it, but he has improved
markedly in the past week and appears to be out of the woods.

Martie in MD





Re: bug sprays

2001-05-18 Thread Karen McCarthy

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Original Message Follows
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Last year, I had read somewhere that Bounce dryer sheets worked well as a 
repellent.  As I and my son are also very fair and attract bugs like 
magnets, so I thought I would give them a try.  Believe it or not, they work 
really well!!

Lynda

Gee Lynda,
sounds interesting! I wonder if you could get some of the liquid fabric 
softener and put iton a crocheted ear net? Or get some stuff like Tyvek and 
sew some ear covers? I dont really like the crcheted ones too much - they 
look like Granny got carried away in the doily dept. and started decorating 
the barn as well...

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Re: Just Another Fjord Story

2001-05-18 Thread Debby Stai
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Amber is the same way, very helpful with instructions and has no fear of
strangers.   A little concern of mine as I'm hearing of stolen horses more
and more these days.  Course Amber isn't the easiest to load in a trailer,
unless you have lots of treats, a little paitience and some time, which most
horsethiefs, I think, wouldn't have.  But she will follow her buddies in the
trailer and they just walk in.  I'd thought I was OK as you have to drive in
to our property, drive by the house and through another gate to get to the
barn, which is where they are at night.  But during the day they are out and
I've heard of fences being cut down to get to horses.  I think in this case,
my guys would head for the barn.  And I do have an electric line up but it
doesn't do much more than a tickle, maybe I need to turn it up some.  Debby
in Mo
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From: "GAIL RUSSELL" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 12:48 PM
Subject: Re: Just Another Fjord Story


> This message is from: GAIL RUSSELL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> Gunthar looks just slightly concerned about the vet, but is fine.  Odin,
the
> two year old, crawls all over him and tries to "help" give shots to the
> others after he has had his.  Both FJords.
>
> Gail
> Gail Russell
> Forestville CA
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]





Re: Just Another Fjord Story

2001-05-18 Thread GAIL RUSSELL
This message is from: GAIL RUSSELL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Gunthar looks just slightly concerned about the vet, but is fine.  Odin, the
two year old, crawls all over him and tries to "help" give shots to the
others after he has had his.  Both FJords.

Gail
Gail Russell
Forestville CA
[EMAIL PROTECTED]





Re: Tight better than off

2001-05-18 Thread Jean Gayle
This message is from: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Mary, you mentioned Harness Honey.  I have some and on the occasion I get
around to doing my saddle and bridles it is great.  Softens and stays for
awhile.  Jean





Jean Walters Gayle
Aberdeen, WA
[Authoress of "The Colonel's Daughter"
Occupied Germany 1946 TO 1949 ]
http://users.techline.com/jgayle
Three Horses Press
PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563





Just Another Fjord Story

2001-05-18 Thread BugEwhip
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Hi All:
 I have a moment to share a Fjord-ism.
 My vet came out today for the annual shots-for-all (horses, cats, dog) 
and to ooh and ahh at the Iguana, half moon conure and cockatiel.
 Went to give my Arabian her shots (vets give the rabies shots here).  
The Arabian KNEW it was a needle before it was even filled and was wound up 
for a game of Kick-the-Vet if she gets near me with that thing.  After two 
tries, I said enough and cranked an ear (the only thing that works with this 
horse) so the ordeal could be over quickly.  I did give the Arabian a cookie 
for not killing the vet.  Or me.  She gives a really good stink-eye for a 
horse.
 Then we went to Riata, my gorgeous Fjord mare.  Riata smelled molecules 
of cookie somewhere on my person and began vacuuming me for proof.   Her huge 
nostrils flared and blew warm air all over me, found the most proof still in 
one pocket and gave me the dreamiest look with her huge brown eyes.  I gave 
her cookies.  How could I resist?  Meanwhile, the dreaded vet had delivered 
all three injections and I don't think Riata even twitched an ear.  
 What a pair.  I love them both but they sure are different.

Pamela Garofalo
Miracles are everywhere.





Re: bug sprays

2001-05-18 Thread Heithingi
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Hi Everyone,

Karen, you are right, Michigan can get buggy!  Last year, I had read 
somewhere that Bounce dryer sheets worked well as a repellent.  As I and my 
son are also very fair and attract bugs like magnets, so I thought I would 
give them a try.  Believe it or not, they work really well!!  Of course, one 
looks a tad bit odd walking around with a dryer sheet tucked in their belt, 
but hey, it works!  It would take some more experimentation to attach them to 
the Fjord's gear, but it is something to try, we will this year!

Lynda

Lynda and Daniel
Bailey's Norwegian Fjord Horse Farm
White Cloud, MI
231.689.9902
http://hometown.aol.com/heithingi/BaileysNorwegianFjords.html





Re: bug sprays

2001-05-18 Thread Karen McCarthy

This message is from: "Karen McCarthy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I have stopped using Skin so Soft, not because of reactions , but because I 
was having trouble finding it, and I didn't like the smell too much anyway.
Nevada can't even begin to compete with the likes of Michigan as a Very 
Buggy Area (VBA), but since we do irrigate thru the summer here, have our 
fair share of gnats, mosquitos & other biting nuisances. I use a product by 
Gold Nugget 'Gnat Away', which really seems to help. It comes in either a 
spray or a cream. The cream is far superior IMO than the spray, and it is 
designed for use inside ears, along the midline of the belly, and on udders 
& sheaths. I find the gnats really love to bite the little exposed areas of 
skin at the inside of the horses forearm where it joins the chest: the hair 
kind of opens up and exposes the skin and those buggers just have a field 
day there!

Happy Spring,


Karen McCarthy
Great Basin Fjords
Carson City, NV

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bug sprays

2001-05-18 Thread sandra church

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A recent post mentioned the use of Avon's Skin So Soft and boy, that brought 
back painful memories.  We decided to try the diluted product on our horses 
and all went well until I noticed that our thoroughbred had trouble walking 
the next day.  He was having a severe allergic reaction to Skin So 
Soft...swollen with hives-couldn't even pass urine because the sheath was so 
swollen.  So, as with any product, always be careful and check for possible 
reactions.  Luckily, a vet was close by and took care of the situation but 
the guilt of harming Icy is still with me.
The bugs are horrible in my part of Va. and expecially find my blonde, 
fair-skinned son quite delicious.  His pediatrician told us to give him 
daily Vitamin B1 to help discourage the hungry pests and it seems to help.  
Wonder if I dare try to give that to the horses, especially Icy?  Does 
anyone out there have any "natural" solutions?  For trail rides, we just try 
to cover up the horses with the crocheted ear covers or the netting that 
covers the face and neck.  When we were kids, we used to put small leafy 
branches around the bridle...haven't seen anyone else do that in years.

Happy trails-preferably bug-lessSandra
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