RE: Drawing for a gelding

2001-07-02 Thread William Kelley
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Is it too late to send for tickets for the Fjord drawing for the Hold your
Horses group?
  Thanks  Bill Kelley

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Subject: Drawing for a gelding


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Hello,

It is that time of year again. Hold Your Horses, Inc. A handicap riding
program for children and adults in Oakdale, California are selling drawing
tickets for a FJORD GELDING (Either a weanling or yearling, it had not been
decided yet.)

YOU GET ONE ticket per $5.00 donation to the Hold Your Horses, Inc.  I have
tickets available at our farm. Send a check made out to Hold Your Horses,
Inc  in care of me... at ...
Catherine Lassesen
Hestehaven - The Horse Garden
256 May Creek Road
Days Creek, OR 97429

or send a check to HOLD YOUR HORSES, INC.
in care of Olympia Francis, P.O. Box 606, Oakdale, CA 95361.

Be sure to tell them what it is for and include your telephone number and a
SASE if you want a receipt.

Thank you for considering this organization for a donation.

They service over 80 clients a week on a volunteer bases. There is only one
staff member paid and that is the barn manager for the horses.  Please do
consider.

Catherine Lassesen





Re: Help

2001-07-02 Thread Jean Gayle
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Kate it sure is hard getting old, I can vouch for that. Thanks for the
elp[ re foods to fatten.  Jean




Jean Walters Gayle
Aberdeen, WA
[Authoress of The Colonel's Daughter
Occupied Germany 1946 TO 1949 ]
http://users.techline.com/jgayle
Amazon.com to order





Re: Help

2001-07-02 Thread Remi2442
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In a message dated 07/02/2001 11:21:29 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
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 that beet pulp is a good way to put weight on in case of founder, and you
 can add the Cocosoya to the beet pulp.
 

Hi list,

We have consistently fed beet pulp and added Cocosoya for the horses that 
needed it and had great success.  Beet pulp not only is a great way to get 
weight on, it helps keep the ol' digestive system going properly.  For our 
oldsters, with ground down teeth, have mixed the beet pulp very wet, which 
allows them to suck it down.  Good Luck.

Carol  Prairie Duster in Michigan





Re: Help

2001-07-02 Thread BaldursMom
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Have you had his teeth checked?  My 27 yr old morgan has a few loose molars 
and can't eat hay anymore.  She's eating Dengie instead and gets beet pulp 
for lunch.  She's getting the dengie 5X a day to keep her gut full too.  The 
dentist says it will be about a year and she'll need to be eating soft foods 
only.  It must be hard getting old  :-(

Kate in CT
owned by Baldur the wonder fjord
graduate B pony clubber
MysticPonyClub egroups moderator
ARIA certified riding instructor
Professional Braider





Re: Help

2001-07-02 Thread whitedvm
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Jean,

I wouldn't be too anxious to put weight on him just yet.  If the feet are
sore or he does have laminitis than a little less weight on those feet
would be good for him.  Get the feet in shape and then worry about the
weight.

When he is sound and you think you are out of the woods with founder,
than you can increase the calories.  I would go with higher fat, like
Purina Strategy or by adding corn oil to your Senior.

Regards,

Steve

Steve and Amy White
Prairieholm Farm
Waterloo, Nebraska





Re: Help

2001-07-02 Thread Vivian Creigh
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Jean Ernest7/2/01 8:14 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 I have also read that an oil mixture called COCOSOYA is more palatable than
 corn oil. It is also 20% more digestible than ordinary corn and vegetable
 oil.  Uckele has it, 5 gallon jug is $29.95.

I tried the COCOSOYA from Uckele and found it no more palatable than corn
oil. Beth Valentine who does research on EPSM advised me to just buy cheap
corn oil as it does the trick and is easy to come by in bulk at WalMart's
and Sam's stores. It takes awhile before the ponies eat it with anything
bordering on enthusiasm. I'd stay away from bran as it interferes with
absorbtion of certain minerals. Beet Pulp is always a good choice for adding
calories without protein. Good Luck, Vivian Creigh





Re[2]: Bit Breyer Silver Wolfe 2000 Spring Show Special Fjord for sale

2001-07-02 Thread Diana Calder
This message is from: Diana Calder [EMAIL PROTECTED]

The Silver Wolfe model is now sold, but I still have the Dewsbury
Waterford Baucher bit for sale.

DC Here's links to info on the Dewsbury Waterford Baucher that I have
DC for sale:

DC http://www.horsebit.com/questions2.htm
DC http://www.kangaroobits.com/baucher.htm

DC The Dewsbury bits are supposed to have a life-long warranty, and
DC I've still got the box and everything for the bit so it should be
DC covered the same as if it was new. It has a manufacturer's flaw
DC on one link, but it's smooth and seems only to be cosmetic so I
DC didn't bother returning it. If anyone's interested, I'd like $80
DC (plus shipping to wherever it needs to go) for the bit. If no
DC one's interested, I'll probably offer it on the CD-L, before
DC trying eBay (the selling fees there are getting nasty).

-- 
Best regards,
 Dianamailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]





Re: Help

2001-07-02 Thread Jean Ernest
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Jean,
 Corn oil is better (and cheaper) than wheatgerm oil..you can feed up to 2
cups a day..if you can get him to eat it., a problem if you are not feeding
much grain.  
I have also read that an oil mixture called COCOSOYA is more palatable than
corn oil. It is also 20% more digestible than ordinary corn and vegetable
oil.  Uckele has it, 5 gallon jug is $29.95.  

I read (am looking for the article in a back issue) in The Horse Journal,
that beet pulp is a good way to put weight on in case of founder, and you
can add the Cocosoya to the beet pulp.

UCKELE can be reached online :  http://www.uckele.com
Phone  1-800-292-0014

Rice bran is also good for putting on weight.

I hope this helps.

Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska  

  At 09:42 PM 7/1/2001 -0700, you wrote:
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED]

My big horse Charlie is still not getting over his founder from close
trimming.  I have always had to feed him three times a day to keep flesh on
him, he is huge at 17 2 1/2.  He usually had large wafers of alfalfa twice a
day, one big serving of grass hay, six cupfuls of senior horse twice a day
and vitamins.  Recently he has been anemic so I had been told to add
lixitinic to his grain.

Now I have only been able to feed him grass hay, last years, and enough
grain to get his meds down him.  He is losing weight rapidly, back and ribs
becoming pronounced.  What can I feed him to improve his weight yet not over
burden his system?  Would wheat germ oil help?  Is bran to hot?  Jean

Jean Walters Gayle
Aberdeen, WA
[Authoress of The Colonel's Daughter
Occupied Germany 1946 TO 1949 ]
http://users.techline.com/jgayle
Amazon.com to order




Jean Ernest
Fairbanks, Alaska
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Re: Help

2001-07-02 Thread GAIL RUSSELL
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I am no expert, but do know that you can put weight on an old horse by
feeding oils.  We used Costco corn oil...comes in 2.5 gallon containers.
You need to find a vehicle to carry it...one with the least amount of carbs
possible.  We used soaked beet pulp, with oil thoroughly mixed in.  Our old
rescue QH...when we finally had him put down because of unrelenting
arthritic painwas nice and fat.  

If he is a fussy eater you may have to get him better quality oil.  The
Wesco corn oil from Costco smelled rancid to me the day we bought it.  For
starters, I would try the smaller containers from the grocery store while
you experiment.  Olive oil has a nice neutral taste.

Now I have only been able to feed him grass hay, last years, and enough
grain to get his meds down him.  He is losing weight rapidly, back and ribs
becoming pronounced.  What can I feed him to improve his weight yet not over
burden his system?  Would wheat germ oil help?  Is bran to hot?  Jean
Gail Russell
Forestville CA
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Re: Bit Breyer Silver Wolfe 2000 Spring Show Special Fjord for sale

2001-07-02 Thread Pat Wilson
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Thanks for the information.
pat
ttfn

Diana Calder wrote:

 This message is from: Diana Calder [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 PW This message is from: Pat Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 PW
 PW What does your Breyer model look like, I may be interested.
 PW pat wilson
 PW ttfn

 The batteries in my digicam are dead, so I'll just give a link to the
 Silver Wolfe photo for now - it's the same mold as the Breyer Henry the
 Norwegian Fjord except in a gray dun (they call it silver dun). They
 made one screw-up in the markings, however - they gave Silver Wolfe
 four white stockings below his dark leg markings! I haven't gotten
 around to repainting the legs on my own model yet, but I will
 eventually.  Here's a few links with pictures of Silver Wolfe:

 http://petgearmfg.safeshopper.com/108/816.htm?152
 http://www.modelhorseweb.com/srs/2000.html
 http://www.sr-outdoors.com/~breyer/silver_wolfe.htm

 And while I'm busy finding links, here's links to info on the Dewsbury
 Waterford Baucher that I have for sale:

 http://www.horsebit.com/questions2.htm
 http://www.kangaroobits.com/baucher.htm

 I can take some pictures of the actual model once I get the digicam's
 batteries charged back up if anyone wants pics of it.

 Thanks,
 Diana

 Thursday, June 28, 2001, 8:00:11 PM, you wrote:

 DC This message is from: Diana Calder [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 DC I've got a 6 John Dewsbury Waterford Baucher bit for sale. I paid
 DC $111.60 US (before taxes and shipping) for it back in March this year,
 DC used it for about a month, then gave up on it - I'm not sure if it was
 DC a little bit thick for Donnie's palate or not, but he definitely
 DC couldn't handle all the joints in it - I never did try it on the
 DC driving bridle, only on the one we use to ground-drive him with the
 DC stoneboat, and not only would he never stop playing with it, but he
 DC also managed to pull it plus the rein right through his mouth on
 DC several occasions. Waterford bits are supposed to be bought longer
 DC than others, so the 6 is about equivalent to a 5.5 French link
 DC (which I bought a Smuckers' butterfly version of at the same time, and
 DC which Donnie does seem to like, but not as well as the copper-roller
 DC D-ring snaffle we started him out with). The Dewsbury bits are
 DC supposed to have a life-long warranty, and I've still got the box and
 DC everything for the bit so it should be covered the same as if it was
 DC new. It has a manufacturer's flaw on one link, but it's smooth and
 DC seems only to be cosmetic so I didn't bother returning it.  If
 DC anyone's interested, I'd like $80 (plus shipping to wherever it needs
 DC to go) for the bit.  If no one's interested, I'll probably offer it on
 DC the CD-L, before trying eBay (the selling fees there are getting
 DC nasty).  One question - any recommendations on sterilizing the bit
 DC before shipping it?  I was thinking in terms of rubbing alcohol, but
 DC wasn't sure if that was strong enough...

 DC I've also got a New in Box Breyer Silver Wolfe 2000 Spring Show
 DC Special Fjord for sale. I accidentally wound up with two (bid on a lot
 DC including one on eBay, got outbid, ordered one from an online store,
 DC then the high bidder backed out on the eBay lot and since I wanted the
 DC rest of the lot anyway, I accepted the win on that one as well).  I'm
 DC asking $30 plus shipping for the Silver Wolfe.

 DC First come, first serve on both of these items.


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 Best regards,
  Dianamailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]





Help

2001-07-02 Thread Jean Gayle
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED]

My big horse Charlie is still not getting over his founder from close
trimming.  I have always had to feed him three times a day to keep flesh on
him, he is huge at 17 2 1/2.  He usually had large wafers of alfalfa twice a
day, one big serving of grass hay, six cupfuls of senior horse twice a day
and vitamins.  Recently he has been anemic so I had been told to add
lixitinic to his grain.

Now I have only been able to feed him grass hay, last years, and enough
grain to get his meds down him.  He is losing weight rapidly, back and ribs
becoming pronounced.  What can I feed him to improve his weight yet not over
burden his system?  Would wheat germ oil help?  Is bran to hot?  Jean

Jean Walters Gayle
Aberdeen, WA
[Authoress of The Colonel's Daughter
Occupied Germany 1946 TO 1949 ]
http://users.techline.com/jgayle
Amazon.com to order