Re: My leg is so swollen I can't get into my cowboy boots
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Sue, I understand the swollen ankle/feet thing. Due to 2 different ankle injuries my feet went form size 5'swide to one foot is a 6 extrawide the other 6and half extrawide. The boots I have found that work best for me are Ariat's that lace up, I have both their work boots and their paddock boots. Being on my feet all day at the barn these are the first boots that actually are orthopedic for my feet and I can get on because they lace.I do rearrange the laces keeping an open space over the instep which gives me a little extra space since neither foot bends correctly. They are extra wide too. Of course I need to buy the six and a half. They are very comfortable and used with half chaps would be okay in classes. I just explain my "disability" if a judge comments. One other thing that has helped with the swelling is accupuncture. I REALLY wish I had gotten started with it when the original injuries happened. I know it would have helped. I took a friend to my "needle lady" after she had sprained her ankle. She walked in on crutches and walked out tenatively on her own. I KNOW it works. If you know anyone who does laser therapy on horses that would help also. Good luck, Robyn in MD where we are all looking for Dorothy..
Re: My leg is so swollen I can't get into my cowboy boots
This message is from: GAIL RUSSELL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> How far into your foot does the swelling go? My guess is, all the way into the instep? I sympathize! I have naturally wide feet and a high instep, and only in the last few years have I actually been able to buy shoes that fit. "Sadly" my mother owned a prescription children's shoe business, so I was never allowed to become accustomed to cramming my feet into too-narrow shoes. I cannot wear riding boots at alllive in my Blundstones (and even they are a bit small) and have no idea what I will do if I ever have to wear "respectable" riding boots. Hmmmjust had a thought for something that would be a little unconventional, but might at least be comfy. I have felt shoes for my mother that are designed for people with severe foot edema. They velcro across the top. I think she has to wear the men's sizes, but at least they are not so big and clunky that she trips over her feet. Adding "half-chaps" in a large size over that might give you something comfy and akin to riding boot. Downsidethough..now that I say it...is no heel to prevent a foot going thru the stirrup. You would have to add peacock stirrups or some other kind of safety stirrup, most of which are not designed for western saddles. The other problems are that the felt would absorb manure odors, and they would not be the best protection from foot crushing. Not perfect...but comfy. If you want sources for the felt shoes, let me know. I have a vague recollection of seeing some gadget online, or somewhere, that was designed to promote return circulation from the leg. Probably quakery...and probably not designed for the deep vein thrombosis problem. It was some kind of wrap thing. Anyway...not much helpbut I hope you at least know we are thinking of you! Gail 09:38 AM 5/3/2002 -0700, you wrote: >This message is from: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Poor Sue, I know the usual, keep your leg elevated (how can you ride with >one leg up in the air?), take diuretics and dismount every twenty minutes, >have the leg tattooed so attention is drawn to the drawings and not the >size, or slit the cowboy boot open down the back seam and add elastic (this >one is too reasonable but I did this to my English boots as I "matured"), >and of course, break the other ankle so the legs match. Just trying to be >helpful! Jean > > > > > > > >Jean Walters Gayle >[Authoress of "The Colonel's Daughter" >Occupied Germany 1946 To 1949 ] >http://users.techline.com/jgayle >Send $20 >Three Horses Press >PO Box 104 >Montesano, WA 98563 > > > Gail Russell Forestville CA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: My leg is so swollen I can't get into my cowboy boots
This message is from: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Poor Sue, I know the usual, keep your leg elevated (how can you ride with one leg up in the air?), take diuretics and dismount every twenty minutes, have the leg tattooed so attention is drawn to the drawings and not the size, or slit the cowboy boot open down the back seam and add elastic (this one is too reasonable but I did this to my English boots as I "matured"), and of course, break the other ankle so the legs match. Just trying to be helpful! Jean Jean Walters Gayle [Authoress of "The Colonel's Daughter" Occupied Germany 1946 To 1949 ] http://users.techline.com/jgayle Send $20 Three Horses Press PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563
Thanks for info on "white stuff"
This message is from: "DT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Thanks for the advice. Lars does have very deep frog clefts. I cleaned it out and treated it. He is a happy boy. Well, now that I am starting to work him regularly in the arena he is not quite as happy LOL His bumper sticker says: I would rather be eating Deb
Swollen Leg
This message is from: "Snowy Mtn." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hello Sue I have had some extreamly great relief by using Aloe Vera. I have a very big variety in my house and just slice it open and apply directly to the injury. wrap it on and leave it there change it twice a day. I have seen it take a swollen black foot and turn it white and unswollen overnight. Where the leaf stopped the colour was still black. In your case I would also pick up a bottle of edible aloe vera juice to help with the internal damage. I hope you feel better soon. Lauren.
Re: Do you know this mare?
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 5/2/02 1:13:32 PM Mountain Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << I purchased a fjord mare at auction but she didn't come with papers. Just wondering if anyone knows her or her "story". She's about 6 yo, just under 14hh, and a red dun. >> I was at the Troyer auction and saw this mare, if she had come up for auction a little earlier in the day I would have been bidding against you but I had a 800 mile drive to get home and had to leave by 3:30. Not the prettiest of fjords, someone had cut her forelock, but what patience she has. On Friday the day before she was auctioned she was left tied, still hitched to the cart, for 3 hours. she just stood and patiently waited. When she was standing in her stall she looked quite plain but hitched and driven she looked like a diffrent horse. She didn't come from Taos NM, they were there with 2 horses for auction and they are the only farm that I am aware of in NM that breed FBA registered fjords. She didn't come from Los Trigos all Ginnys fjords are NFHR registered and I know all the fjords she has had for the last 8 years. If I remember rightly your mare is about 8 years old, I checked her teeth. Good luck with her, I am pleased she has gone to a good home. May I ask what you paid for her? I was curious about what the fjords were going for most of them went up for auction very late in the day after I had left. Sue Sue Clark-Sorger Crown Oak Fjords Sandia Park NM
Re: name needed - war mount
This message is from: Steve McIlree <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Erik-- Friday, May 03, 2002, you wrote: > But if anyone on the list, including Ms. Sundkvist, would like to > discuss, Fjordings in the Viking period, I would be thrilled to do > so. I appreciate learning more all the time, but out of respect for > the members of the list, would suggest it be offline to those > interested. Actually, I would like to see this discussion conducted ON the list. Some the the things you have stated are generally accepted by Fjord folks in this country, and I would like to know if there is any documentable basis for them. Personally, I've been becoming more skeptical of some of the things that a couple of years ago were "facts" about the Fjord horse. My skepticism has been the result of the education that Anneli and others living and studying in Scandinavia have given us through their participation on the list. I would like to hear from you what documentation you has concerning the long-time selective breeding of Fjords as well as the use of Fjords by the Vikings. I can almost guarantee that this discussion will not be seen as off-topic by the list owner. ;-) -- Steve McIlree -- Pferd & Skipper -- Omaha, NE/Las Cruces, NM, USA Then we began to ride. My soul smoothed itself out, a long-cramped scroll freshening and fluttering in the wind. --Robert Browning(1812-1889)
Re: Birth announcement
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello Bill and Norma, Congrats on your boy, too! Are you expecting more this year? Lynda and Daniel Bailey's Norwegian Fjord Horse Farm White Cloud, MI 231-689-9902 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hometown.aol.com/baileysfjords/
Re: name needed
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello Janet, Congrats on the new foal! Who is the sire and dam? Lynda and Daniel Bailey's Norwegian Fjord Horse Farm White Cloud, MI 231-689-9902 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hometown.aol.com/baileysfjords/
name needed - war mount
This message is from: "Erik Cofield-Erixart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Dear Ms. Sundkvist (and members of the list), I appreciate your response, and would be very interested in discussing this with you. Please contact me at my personal email which is [EMAIL PROTECTED] I don't believe I suggested that the Fjord Horse (aka Fjording og Fjord Hest) was the only horse, or only breed, from the Viking age, nor the horse for all Vikings. My apologies if that was implied. I do have documentation to support my comments however. I recognize Ms. Sundkvist, you are an educated scholarly person, and we have obviously both read Snorri and the poetic eddas. I am sure you could share a portion of a tremendous amount of knowledge, and perhaps I can share where I gather my data, and we can learn from each other. I used the following sources: "Historical Atlas of the Vikings" from Penguin Publishing, "Vikings", Smithsonian Museum of Natural History", the Jorvik Viking Center in York, the Irish Life Adventure in Dublin, "Snorri, Sagas of the Viking Kings of Norway" as well as other publications and museums. I agree that direct naming of breeds is difficult, although selective breeding is mentioned. King Athils of Sweden is noted as breeding fine horses, but not necessarily Fjordings. But if anyone on the list, including Ms. Sundkvist, would like to discuss, Fjordings in the Viking period, I would be thrilled to do so. I appreciate learning more all the time, but out of respect for the members of the list, would suggest it be offline to those interested. Kind regards, Erik Cofield [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.erixart.com Sundkvist wrote: "Now, this is pure speculation! There is NO evidence that the fjord as we know it existed during the Viking Age, allthough it's ancestors certainly did. And there is NO traces of selective breeding of fjords 1000 years back. Also the "vikings" were people from all the Nordic countries and I belive that it is hard to name one Norwegian breed as THE war mount of people from Denmark and Sweden. There are other breeds as old as the fjord in Scandinavia." Cofield Wrote "However, I am a Viking period historical expert. Since Fjords were the war mounts of the Vikings and can be traced to selective breeding for more than 1000 years"
Re: My leg is so swollen I can't get into my cowboy boots
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 5/3/02 5:39:28 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Sue, you've got your hands full. I can't help at all with the medical stuff, but have a suggestion about boots. Can you wear regular paddock boots? Ariat makes some that have elastic in the ankle. Just a thought. If you are able to ride, and just not fitting into your boots is a problem, that could be a fix. Best of luck getting the swelling down. Pamela
My leg is so swollen I can't get into my cowboy boots
This message is from: "Sue" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Good morning everybody.I hope someone can give me some advice. As most of you probably remember, I broke my ankle, dislocated it and detached the inside main ligament last Oct 29th. Well...what a winter we have had. Randy came down with Non Hodgkins Lymphoma. He has just completed his Chemo and now is facing 4 weeks of radiation. But he is doing very well. It looks as if everything is under control. As for me, well I was diagnosed with D.V.T. on February 05th in that injured leg...and I CANNOT get into my cowboy boots. My upper calf is s swollen. Do any of you know if I will ever be able to have a normal sized leg? I cannot ride a horse this wayand Storm is out there waiting to be despoiled! Wah.calm me down.I am getting exasperated, disgusted and yes my friendsjust plain dad -blamed nasty!! My foot wardrobe consists of two pairs of men size extra width sneakers, one pair of sandals and oh yes mustn't forget my wonderful mens hiking boots! Forget my barn bootsriding bootsgrr. ( And I will look so wonderful in shorts...with my leg shaped like a peg.) Have any of you had this type of injury with resulting Deep Vein Thrombosis ? (Blood clots). Is there anything at all I can do to get the swelling down? I have been waiting for two months out of the three I have been on Warfarin (first I had Lovenox by needle in my stomach) to see the orthapedic surgeon and the earliest I can see him is May 14th. I am seeing an Internal medicine dr. next week to see if I can give up the Warfarin. I am getting charlie horses in that leg and sometimes in the other one. I just wondered if any of you have had hands-on experience. Ok ok I will quit complaining...at least I can walk so long as I don't step on a rock or any rough ground. Storm is now a three year old and stands 13.3 hh. Wonder how tall he will get, or is he about done growing? He turned 3 in April and is a lovely mannered gelding. Remember what a tyrant he was when he was little? Gelding sure gave him an attitude adjustment. He is a very nice boy nowbut don't know how he will take to weight on his back. Our weather has been cold and rainy.we are sure paying for our mild winter. The horses keep rolling in the mud...sure will be glad when everything dries up. It does look like the haycrop will get a good start. Congrats to all of you with new foals. Nothing like new babies in the spring. Well take care everyone and have a nice day, Sue (Desert Storm's mom)
Re: name needed - war mount
This message is from: Anneli Sundkvist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Erik wrote: >>However, I am a Viking period historical expert. Since Fjords were the war mounts of the Vikings and can be traced to selective breeding for more than 1000 years>> Now, this is pure speculation! There is NO evidence that the fjord as we know it existed during the Viking Age, allthough it's ancestors certainly did. And there is NO traces of selective breeding of fjords 1000 years back. Also the "vikings" were people from all the Nordic countries and I belive that it is hard to name one Norwegian breed as THE war mount of people from Denmark and Sweden. There are other breeds as old as the fjord in Scandinavia. Anneli * Anneli Sundkvist, PhD Dept. of Archaeology & Ancient History St. Eriks Torg 5 S-753 10 Uppsala SWEDEN
